Lower 3Dmark05 score with A64?

[CKXP]

hello everyone here's my issue, a couple months ago i upgraded my rig from a 2600 XP-M, Epox NF2 Ultra, all my other hardware stayed the same(HD,Mem,Vid card) to A64 3200 Newcastle 3200/DFI Nf3 250gb.
i've been running some 3d mark 03,05 bench marks, my 03 score improved, but 05 score went down. from 5124 on my old setup to 4700+ on my new one. the highest i scored so far is 4807, but i can't reach 5000 anymore. the drivers i'm using now are 81.94, i also tried reverting to the old drivers 76.45 that i used to get my 5000+ score. does anyone might have any ideas why my 03 scores would improve, but 05 scores would go down? oh before i forget heres a comparison bewteen my systems:

OLD
xp-m 2600 (213x12) 2550mhz
epox nf2 ultra
2x512 corsair xms 213mhz (2-2-2-10)
6800nu 16/6vp 395/870
3D mark 05 score=5124

NEW
a64 3200 newcastle (255x10) 2550mhz
dfi nf3 250gb
2x512 corsair xms 255mhz (3-3-3-10)
6800nu 16/6vp 395/870
35 mark 05 score=4800+

thanks for any input.

 

[Lord Banshee]

i wish i could score that high with my 6800nu... i can not even break 4k with my ULi chip my nf3 chip gives me around 4k even.

Anyway...
this looks like a driver issue or a bios issue.

Did you reformat when you install in hardware?
Did you make sure you have agp set to 8x, fastwrites on, agp aperture set to 128/256.

You know what is werid you said you 3dmark03 score went up but you 3dmark05 score went down. That is so werid, when i got my Uli chip it did the same thing, i would think this is because 03 is more cpu limited and a 3200-a64 at 2.55 will be faster than a 2.55 axp. This makes sense right.

Why 05 drops i have not clue if you did what i said above. If you fix the issue please respond back as i would love to get my 05 back to . I have a bigger difference than you though. It is like 400-500 instead of 300pnts and i went from a 2.3a64 to a 2.7a64 lol

 

[videoclone]

I used to get 2400 in 3Dmark2005 i changed motherboards and i now get 5500
^__^ weee i tried everything with no luck .. replacing hardware fixed it though... i have nod idea why your's is lower. Reformat and try again .. use the drivers from www.nvidia.com and not from your MB CD rom!

 

[Cdubneeddeal]

Originally posted by: Lord Banshee
i wish i could score that high with my 6800nu... i can not even break 4k with my ULi chip my nf3 chip gives me around 4k even.

Anyway...
this looks like a driver issue or a bios issue.

Did you reformat when you install in hardware?
Did you make sure you have agp set to 8x, fastwrites on, agp aperture set to 128/256.

For the NU's you want fastwrites to be off.

 

[CKXP]

thanks for the replies, it is kinda wierd that on score would go up, and the other would go down. i have tried different drivers(77.77, 79.11, 81.94,and 76.45) the 76.45 is what i got my 5124 with, and i used drivercleaner with each install.

as for the agp aperture i have it set at 128, but i tried 256 if to see if it would make a difference, and it did, i scored even lower, i think 4600 something. fastwrites is always off, i get BSOD or lockups if i enable it.

this issue is really not a big deal to me, cause my over all gaming preformance has improved since going to A64, but it's one those things that make me say "hmmm"

 

[Cdubneeddeal]

I had the same problem. Went from an NF7-S v2.0 with a barton 2500 unlocked at 3200 to a A64 3400 with a KV8 Pro and my benchmarks dropped. My CPU score went up, however. But i'm at a point in my life where benchmarks are meaningless. If a comp can run the games I want to play with ease, i'm happy.

 

[TraumaRN]

Originally posted by: CKXP
hello everyone here's my issue, a couple months ago i upgraded my rig from a 2600 XP-M, Epox NF2 Ultra, all my other hardware stayed the same(HD,Mem,Vid card) to A64 3200 Newcastle 3200/DFI Nf3 250gb.
i've been running some 3d mark 03,05 bench marks, my 03 score improved, but 05 score went down. from 5124 on my old setup to 4700+ on my new one. the highest i scored so far is 4807, but i can't reach 5000 anymore. the drivers i'm using now are 81.94, i also tried reverting to the old drivers 76.45 that i used to get my 5000+ score. does anyone might have any ideas why my 03 scores would improve, but 05 scores would go down? oh before i forget heres a comparison bewteen my systems:

OLD
xp-m 2600 (213x12) 2550mhz
epox nf2 ultra
2x512 corsair xms 213mhz (2-2-2-10)
6800nu 16/6vp 395/870
3D mark 05 score=5124

NEW
a64 3200 newcastle (255x10) 2550mhz
dfi nf3 250gb
2x512 corsair xms 255mhz (3-3-3-10)
6800nu 16/6vp 395/870
35 mark 05 score=4800+

thanks for any input.

Memory timings perhaps??

 

[CKXP]

lol; same here, but i guess it just baffles me that faster system should score better than a slower one. i even tried different chipset drivers, but the same results.

 

[TraumaRN]

Also 3D Mark is a seriously a picky beast from computer to computer...i mean consider that I score 8200+ in 05 and 17100+ in 03 with my setup whereas other people with faster or similar setups get lower scores go figure....

Also did u make sure you have AA and AF turn off all that good stuff

 

[CKXP]

Memory timings perhaps??

i thought about that to, but for some reason my DFI is picky about dividers, 1:1 is usually best for me when comes to stability. oh, i did try 230x11, with my memory at 230mhz(2-3-3-10) pretty much the same score.

 

[CKXP]

Also did u make sure you have AA and AF turn off all that good stuff

yeah, aa/af was off
vsync off
high performance
force mipmaps=none

 

[TraumaRN]

Originally posted by: CKXP

Also did u make sure you have AA and AF turn off all that good stuff

yeah, aa/af was off
vsync off
high performance
force mipmaps=none

Weird.....I'll think on this while I'm writing my nursing research article critique on ethnicity as it relates to prenatal care maybe i'll think of something

 

[bdoople]

Did you install your motherboard drivers (NFORCE 3 drivers) and your AMD processor driver?

 

[CKXP]

yes, i did install my chipset driver (v5.10), but i also tried 6.14 and 6.37. all those drivers gave me pretty much the same results. amd processor drivers??? i didn't know that had one.

just for kicks i ran my 3dmark05, at 400/870, i was getting some artifacts, but only scored 4824 i think that might be the highest score i've had since switching to NF3 and A64. i just don't get it??? i would post some links to my scores, but it seems futuremark has been down all day long, i can't seem to access their site.

 

[w00t]

My X800XL scored exactly 5,000.

 

[bdoople]

Originally posted by: CKXP
yes, i did install my chipset driver (v5.10), but i also tried 6.14 and 6.37. all those drivers gave me pretty much the same results. amd processor drivers??? i didn't know that had one.

just for kicks i ran my 3dmark05, at 400/870, i was getting some artifacts, but only scored 4824 i think that might be the highest score i've had since switching to NF3 and A64. i just don't get it??? i would post some links to my scores, but it seems futuremark has been down all day long, i can't seem to access their site.

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/Tec...alResources/0,,30_182_871_9706,00.html

With the processor driver and my chipset drivers my 3dMock scores went up quite a bit. It's worth a shot.

 

[the Chase]

I had almost the same experiance as you did a while back-Nf2 to opty on Nf3-everything else the same but my 3D MARK 05 scores dropped BIG time! Luckily a forum member here told me to uninstall and re-install all of my drivers(chipset,lan,video,etc.) and Boom- it worked-3D Mark 05 right back where it should be for my AGP6600GT.

 

[CKXP]

thanks to everyone for their suggestions and input on my little issue with 3Dmark05, i just home from work not too long ago and ran a couple of benchs, same story (4600-4800 scores) i tried differnet settings:

1:1 memory ratio on all
(230x11) 2530mhz
2-3-3-10 1t timings
4700+ score

(210x11) 2310mhz
2-2-2-10 1t
around same score

(240x11) 2640mhz
2.5.3-3-10
4800+

i tried bdoople's suggestion and downloaded the AMD drivers, (AMD Athlon? 64 Processor Driver for Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 Version (exe) 1.2.2.2 -)
pretty much the same results.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=907632

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4198452
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4004384

those are my 05 and 03 scores, new and old setup. well anyways like i said before this issue is not a big deal to me, and thanks again to everyone who helped out. i can deal with 4800+ for now, cause hopefully it will be up 8000+ when i get my 7800gtx in a couple of weeks