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Why would they have a conscience when they see the people they occupy and oppress as rats and dirty slime
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/0...no-ptsd-in-idf-jews-immune-to-mental-illness/
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/0...no-ptsd-in-idf-jews-immune-to-mental-illness/
GORDON DUFF: ISRAEL CLAIMS NO PTSD IN IDF, JEWS IMMUNE TO MENTAL ILLNESS
July 24, 2010 posted by Gordon Duff · 76 Comments
STUDY COMPARES RESETTLING PALESTINIANS WITH WARS IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN
By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor
Is this Israeli arrogance or are there genuine problems with, not only Americas military but culture as well? Are both true? How is being a Jew serving in Israels military, more conducive to protecting soldiers from combat stress? Why are Americans, in combat across the Middle East, fighting securing Israeli interests in the region, subject to much higher rates of Post Traumatic Stress than Israelis in action against their own citizens?
If America brought her military home and forcibly started rounding up Catholics in a 21st century trail of tears, perhaps resettling them to North Dakota, in league with Canada, walling them in to keep out building materials and twinkies ..or are there other factors that have caused up to 25% of American troops on active duty to require anti-psychotic medications?
Todays Israeli National News Service quoted a study on PTSD from BaMachaneh, the Israeli version of Stars and Stripes stating that IDF soldiers dont get PTSD due to combat, making them vastly superior to their American counterparts. The IDF study cites that up to 30% of American veterans and active duty alike, suffer flashbacks, outbursts of anger and a host of other symptoms which do not plague Jews who are subjected to similar combat circumstances.
No mention of where or when this alleged combat occurred is made, however. The study alleges that less than five percent of soldiers with stress problem, those Israelis who fought in the Second Lebanon War and the attacks on Gaza fare much better under combat stress than their American counterparts in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Compared to their counterparts around the globe, IDF soldiers are less likely to develop Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) due to combat, according to a study published in the most recent edition of official military magazine BaMachaneh.
The study compared research into PTSD in IDF soldiers to similar research done in other countries. Less than five percent of the soldiers who fought in the Second Lebanon War and in Operation Cast Lead in Gaza showed signs of post-traumatic stress, researchers found.
The Lebanon War referred to was a 30 day limited conflict in 2006 in which Israel suffered between 100 and 150 killed in an unsuccessful attempt to smash Hizbollah. Thousands of Lebanese civilians died from air strikes and artillery fire, one United Nations outpost was destroyed by Israel and as many as 200 Hizbollah fighters died. Much of Lebanons infrastructure was destroyed. Israel withdrew entirely from Lebanon in on October 1, 2006, leaving a strengthened enemy entirely in control of Lebanon.
One note made in the study involved the quality of officers. The Israeli study indicated that their officers were more aware of the condition of troops under their command, were less adversarial and elitist than their American counterparts. Israeli officers got treatment for soldiers much quicker than Americans in similar situations.
The last significant combat Israeli troops had seen was nearly as long ago as the Vietnam War. Though a case may be made for no useful comparison between combat exposure, even as admitted in the study, Israeli forces inside their own country and Americans, sometimes fighting year after year with tens of thousands of casualties, fighting at the ends of the earth, some issues may be useful, when seen above the smokescreen of hubris and bravado from Tel Aviv.
Israeli forces are a national army, conscripts and professionals mixed, drawing on all walks of life. Officers may find themselves employees of the men in their command once out of uniform. Jewish identity may actually be a positive force as indicated but, not from a sense of cultural superiority but as one of social cohension and comradeship. One criticism of Americas volunteer army has been the perception of difference in social strata or class between officers and men, particularly with the economic collapse of 2007 pushing many Americans into the military as an alternative to welfare or crime.
One of the key components of the study was religion. The study stated that highly religious Jews who had become prisoners of war fared much better in captivity than non Jews. No statistical data was supplied backing this finding.
Both American military and veterans have found Israels publishing of this study curious. One official, when questioned under promise of anonymity, indicated that nothing out of Israel is believable, certainly nothing comparing the IDF to the American military. The IDF is a good force but inexperienced and unproven in war with no real fight in their history other than 1973 and then they came to the US for assistance, much more assistance than anyone admits to.
The real problem is that the IDF operates as an occupying force in their own country. Troops go home at night, something Americans deployed, sometimes for years, halfway around the world never do. On the mission itself, I some ways their mission is similar, a permanent insurrection but unlike Americas wars, Israelis are fighting their own citizens, unlike Iraq or Afghanistan, the enemy is either unarmed or the military operation itself is simply a form of retaliation for civil protest, sometimes violent but often against peaceful protesters.
Marine Ken OKeefe, captured by Israeli commandos on the Mavi Marmara had this to say about the Israeli forces,
They werent up to0 Marine Corps standards, not by a long shot. I disarmed one of their commandos who had just murdered a camera man who was filming their attack, shot him in the forehead at point blank range.Will this soldier, one Ken OKeefe captured, one of several, be treated for PTSD? Ken, a Marine combat vet from the first Gulf War, is typical of many Marines and soldiers who fought or who are fighting in the Middle East. Ken was so angry at American political behavior and, I believe, Americas actions toward its own soldiers that he gave up his citizenship and left the country. Every day I hear this at least once from an American vet, some days several times. What does it mean?
I took his pistol from him, unloaded it and took him into custody. He had a minor injury, in fact, hadnt put up much of a fight at all. We got him medical care but what I noticed most of all was that he just wouldnt stop crying. These were not combat vets, they werent even disciplined soldiers.
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