Low framerate in Witcher 3 on 980 ti using hairworks.

[litwicki22]

Hello. I create topic cause i want to be sure , that all in my system is ok.
I am using 353.06 WHQL. So question will be about Witcher 3 performance using ultra details , hairworks and 1920x1080.
I am using reference 980 Ti.
So basically i have 60 fps above. But when i change time day to sundown , then my fps drops to 42-50 fps especially when i am in forests. Also i have found movie with somebody with Titan x and he get similiar fps.
So 980 ti \ Titan x is not enough for 1080p with hairworks?
Look at that movie, from second 2:10....dips to even 43 fps. So i dont understand peoples, who talking about playing smooth on 1440p with Titan X.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-c6NjD8PEU4


Closed for the obvious.

-Rvenger

 

[amenx]

Ah.. the miracles of google. From Nvidia themselves:

 

[Stuka87]

nVidia doesn't allow you to adjust the tessellation factor, so you are stuck with low FPS. AMD does allow this, and their cards will actually perform a lot better with hairworks if the setting change is made.

If you do not like the FPS drop, it is best to disable it. Or you can adjust down some other settings. For instance disabling motion blur will give you an FPS boost.

 

[the unknown]

Two things: 1. You're running your 980Ti at reference clocks, most Ti's can get at least +100mhz if not up to +250mhz. That will get you above 60 pretty comfortably. 2. We don't know your CPU and that's a very important factor for maintaining min FPS (even though TW3 is usually pretty light on CPU).

That said, TW3 is a cutting edge game and they have always aimed for settings that are usually above what the best hardware can do at release. Just lower some settings and be happy you got a great card

 

[RaulF]

What exactly are you asking?

How about a one sentence question and be specific please!

 

[Deders]

nVidia doesn't allow you to adjust the tessellation factor, so you are stuck with low FPS. AMD does allow this, and their cards will actually perform a lot better with hairworks if the setting change is made.

If you do not like the FPS drop, it is best to disable it. Or you can adjust down some other settings. For instance disabling motion blur will give you an FPS boost.

Tessellation factor won't make much of a difference on Nvidia hardware, the best thing is to reduce the hairworks AA from 8x to 4x in the ini file but i've not been able to make this work recently.

 

[alcoholbob]

Tessellation factor won't make much of a difference on Nvidia hardware, the best thing is to reduce the hairworks AA from 8x to 4x in the ini file but i've not been able to make this work recently.

The biggest hit is tessellation factor. 64X tessellation factor is too high, even for Maxwell.

You can go from 8xAA to 0xAA on the hair with Witcher Hunter's Config and it only reduces the performance hit slightly. Hairworks is a ~30-35% performance penalty at stock. If you drop AA to 0x it's still about a 25% perf penalty.

 

[TourGuide]

+1 to this...

What exactly are you asking?

How about a one sentence question and be specific please!

This thread is shockingly similar to others you've posted - one of which I've seen locked. Nobody knows what you're asking here - and in spite of that people are trying to help you. Do you want help - or are you unable to reach the conclusion that your original post points to?

 

[futurefields]

nVidia doesn't allow you to adjust the tessellation factor, so you are stuck with low FPS. AMD does allow this, and their cards will actually perform a lot better with hairworks if the setting change is made.

If you do not like the FPS drop, it is best to disable it. Or you can adjust down some other settings. For instance disabling motion blur will give you an FPS boost.

this is so damn annoying

make an effect and force 64x tessellation so it cripples performance

at lower tessellatin factors the effect looks virtually exactly the same and performs much better

 

[futurefields]

Two things: 1. You're running your 980Ti at reference clocks, most Ti's can get at least +100mhz if not up to +250mhz. That will get you above 60 pretty comfortably. 2. We don't know your CPU and that's a very important factor for maintaining min FPS (even though TW3 is usually pretty light on CPU).

That said, TW3 is a cutting edge game and they have always aimed for settings that are usually above what the best hardware can do at release. Just lower some settings and be happy you got a great card

He bought his card likely to max out games like The Witcher 3. The 980ti being nearly the fastest gpu on the market. And you think he should be happy with having to lower settings, and what, wait until he buys another $600 GPU so he can finally enjoy ultra settings? No, this is a joke and I don't know what is more deplorable the actual performance itself coming from these vendors or the people who defend it.

A 980ti should be able to run this game @ 1080p with everything maxed out at 60fps in all scenarios.

People need to stop putting up with the lack of optimization. This is one of the problems that the wealthy creates for the non-wealthy. PC Gaming is a hobby of the rich so you have people on forums happy to drop several grand every year on computer parts and think it is just fine and dandy.

 

[aaksheytalwar]

Your CPU?

 

[Jaydip]

Please don't reply to the threads this guy creates, he has absolutely no clue what any settings does and at this point I think he is just plainly trolling. I hate to say this but it is probably very true.

 

[showb1z]

I think he's just wondering why people are saying they get a smooth framerate at 1440p with a TX when he can't even stay above 60 at 1080p.
It's simple: Some people are just more sensitive to this than others. So they perceive 40-60 fps as smooth (lucky bastards). While other people find the slightest dip below 60 jarring.

He bought his card likely to max out games like The Witcher 3. The 980ti being nearly the fastest gpu on the market. And you think he should be happy with having to lower settings, and what, wait until he buys another $600 GPU so he can finally enjoy ultra settings? No, this is a joke and I don't know what is more deplorable the actual performance itself coming from these vendors or the people who defend it.

A 980ti should be able to run this game @ 1080p with everything maxed out at 60fps in all scenarios.

People need to stop putting up with the lack of optimization. This is one of the problems that the wealthy creates for the non-wealthy. PC Gaming is a hobby of the rich so you have people on forums happy to drop several grand every year on computer parts and think it is just fine and dandy.

This.
Whenever anyone brings this up certain people always make it into some AMD vs Nvidia thing. But Gameworks lack of optimization is terrible for everyone. If they would actually optimize their effects for performance they could easily reduce the performance hit on hairworks to half, and probably less, at similar IQ.
But time and time again you see people defending it. Why anyone who isn't a Nvidia stockholder would think it's a good thing Nvidia has their own slider in games to obsolete hardware is completely beyond me.