Low cost sound options (bar vs HTIB)

EliteRetard

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Looking at soundbars and surround sound setups (currently under $200).
Sound quality doesn't matter as much as adjust ability/volume.
This is for my dad who has irreparable hearing damage.

On a budget I'm trying to decide if a soundbar is going to work better than a similar priced home theater in a box for him. But I don't know what output the TV has (probably only optical if any), and if the soundbar can be adjusted the way that would suit him best. Even if the HTIB speakers are lower quality, having some in the back where he is at, and a receiver with extra connectors and likely more adjust ability may be a better choice.

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He's been living with the stock TV speakers for years, fortunately he's got a giant old LCD set with some of the biggest TV speakers. Unfortunately he's always got it set to 75% or more and constantly flailing his arms and screaming at you to be quiet. Hearing aids wont help, he has nerve damage (he's a veteran).

The biggest issue seems to be voices, any and all voices. He can't hear them well at all. I have tried my best to tweak the TV sound to help, but it's far to limited. I think the reason he turns it up so much is to try to hear what people are saying...but everything else gets turned up too. If we could isolate voices more he may not need it quite so loud. The system will still need to be able to run at abnormal levels (uncomfortable loud to normal people) without damage/distortion though.

I've been pestering him about some kind of sound system for a long time, and now that he's moved into his "last house" he's finally decided to consider it. Problem is he thinks $100-200 will get him a super fancy setup that will fix all his issues. Originally he was looking at $100 soundbars but when I mention some possible benefits of a receiver setup he sent me these to "look at"

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...tem=82-117-438
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...tem=82-676-351

I think my primary goal should be to find something that makes voices stand out much more than normal. The only way I know to do this is to find something with a large equalizer band so he can adjust the sound to his needs. I've not seen any modern receiver with a decent equalizer (barely more than mid, low, high).

He likes his new tech stuff and I could maybe convince him to spend more if it allowed him to hook up all his tech (I know he would STRONGLY prefer wireless hookups). Got him a kindle fire HD (and now HDX for wife), then I set him up with a fancy Logitech remote, and some new smart phones (S4 active). Originally the plan was to use the kindle HDMI to play movies on the TV, but it only worked right once or twice...I think the TV HDMI is flaking out.

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Unique situation and all...but I guess the question is, at $200 is there a sound product that would work well for a partially def person, with a large equalizer or boost vocal noise significantly so it's easy to hear what people are saying? Is it possible to get a good $150 receiver? Could probably start with a $50 pair of bookshelfs then.

What if we could up the budget to say $400 and include (possibly wireless?) connections for his tablets/phones? What would be a good split for receiver and speaker with these conditions (remember "sound quality" alone is not an issue)? $300 on the receiver?
 

NutBucket

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I would say spend $100 on a Vizio SB and see how it goes. Is your dad tech savvy at all? This is the most important consideration.
 

EliteRetard

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I would say spend $100 on a Vizio SB and see how it goes. Is your dad tech savvy at all? This is the most important consideration.

After reading some reviews, it sounds like the $100 soundbars may not do anything over TV speakers...and might not even connect (no optical in). I gotta check for sure what if anything the TV outputs...but I think it's optical. $200 soundbars seems to be rated much better...but sounding good to normal people isn't the goal. I need one that can be adjusted or really enhances voice (so technically it would be very inaccurate)

He's really out of date, but he used to work engineering/computers/programming ~70-90's. He still know's how to use a PC, working on building him a new high end office rig and his first SSD. Recently I've been getting him new gear (tablets and phones) and got him setup with a logitech touchscreen remote. No way in hell he would ever figure out how to set it up, but once I got it working and showed him, he can use it.

The tablet had an HDMI out, so I got a cable and showed him he could plug it in to send movies/shows to the TV (he has a prime account). That worked fine until recently. One HDMI port doesn't work at all with the kindle and the other no sound. I got a laptop to test with and it had issues too. Oddly the sat box is fine.

Anyway, I think a cheap basic HDMI switch would be fine until the TV totally craps out...

If I could get a receiver or equalizer system and hook it up to speakers and all that jazz and set it up with the logitech remote I should be able to show him how to use it.

The problem is just what (if any) equipment is out there that may work, and at what price points? Normally I wouldn't recommend a $200 HTIB due to poor sound quality/value...but in his case correct sound is bad. And I'm wondering if having some satellite speakers setup 2ft behind him instead of 10-15ft in front would make it easier to pick out the voices or just easier to hear overall.

I have ZERO experience with soundbars though...so I need more input there.

I haven't slept proper in days, my brain is getting really fuuzy so I'm gonna take a nap now.
 

NutBucket

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We both know TV speakers are complete crap due to packaging requirements so I would fathom almost anything would be an improvement. And as far as hookup, some act as an HDMI pass through. The Vizio appears to have optical and analog inputs. I guess that helps to keep costs down.

Like I said, buy from a B&M and see if it helps. I believe a soundbar is all he really needs.
 

pcm81

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Crazy thought, but how about a media PC with soundblaster sound card in it? You can use the software (driver) driven EQ on soundblaster to bump up the frequencies of interest.
This will run you more than $200; a good sound blaster card alone is $150.

Also consider using a multiple speaker setup with couple speakers placed very close to where your dad sits. This way it will be loud on his throne, but not too loud for everyone else. Couple wireless speakers might work well for this option.
 

Oyeve

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I use a cheapo insignia sound bar with an optical input and it's lightyears better than the TV speakers. It does clip on bass playing br but still better than TV.
 

Raduque

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Buy an HTIB and only hook up the center channel, or use the channel level controls to boost the center over the other speakers?
 

KeithP

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Buy an HTIB and only hook up the center channel, or use the channel level controls to boost the center over the other speakers?

That is what I was thinking. Probably don't even need a 5.1 system, a 3.1 would be fine. You might also want to take a look at a ZVOX SB. http://www.zvoxaudio.com/ According to their marketing material, they use hearing aid tech to boost voice.

-KeithP