Low Birth Rate

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shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
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The census people are saying we had the lowest birth control Rate in 2013 since the 1930's!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/...l&utm_source=Alert-business&utm_content=Title

"The U.S. population grew by just 0.72 percent in the year ended July 1, 2013, the Census Bureau reported Monday. That’s the slowest growth rate since 1937. Population growth has hovered at super-low levels for the past few years, according to William Frey, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, a nonpartisan research organization. The trend is "troubling," Frey said, and is due largely to the weak economy."

So what justification do we have to offer free birth control?

Maybe the Single tax rate should be higher!

Be fruitful and multiply!

This my attempt at humor.

Doesnt SS depend on population growth?

Umm, the single tax rate IS higher you fool.
As it is we are already being punished simply for not having kids.
Married couples and those with children get huge tax breaks even though their kids are benefiting from public dollars.
 

lotus503

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Feb 12, 2005
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that video was a cool watch, but it doesn't really address the fact that birth rates are declining and there are very real problems associated with that (namely, the fact that social services spending for stuff like Social Security relies on their being more young people to support fewer elderly)

I agree, the documentary just outlined why population is doing what its doing. it does nothing to address public policy issues surrounding it.
 

Hugo Drax

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Sadly I think tough economic times naturally trigger a caution within intelligent and prudent people to scale back their reproduction. These are the same people who tend to have a savings account, and they're the only people who pay any attention to concerns about overpopulation, when they're exactly the last people who should do so.

We've created a society that simultaneously encourages the irresponsible to breed more, and the responsible to breed less. That should work out well for us long term.

Yup. That is called Dysgenics In the USA those who should be having more children are penalized while those who really should not are actually having more.

It is the reverse form of Eugenics that is occurring in the USA. It will be interesting to see how this pans out in the future.
 

Jeff7

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Jan 4, 2001
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Cutting taxes is a good idea and allow them to keep more of their own money.

The low birth rate is a big problem but Americans aren't having enough kids which are needed to pay for the idiotic welfare programs.
And that's mostly what they're doing: Keeping it.
The "trickle down" BS is slowing even more: The leaks that lead to the trickling are being plugged, and the flow is attempting to be reversed, with more and more being pumped back upwards.
If tax breaks and such really created jobs so effectively as the rhetoric suggests, I should have wealthy people breaking into my house to abduct me into a 6-digit-salary job.
Thus far, that has not happened.


And any system that depends on indefinite growth had better also have indefinite space and resources available, otherwise it's eventually going to have a problem.
If you're looking for population growth, space and resources are what you're going to need.
If you're looking for growth from efficiency improvement, at the very least, you'll run into the same kind of barrier that file compression encounters - you can only compress data a certain amount, up until a theoretical limit imposed by mathematics. Likewise, you can't improve the efficiency of a process or a system indefinitely.
 

OverVolt

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Its honestly not good. I would like kids so I'm not Darwin'd like the rest of you.
 
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Yup. That is called Dysgenics In the USA those who should be having more children are penalized while those who really should not are actually having more.

It is the reverse form of Eugenics that is occurring in the USA. It will be interesting to see how this pans out in the future.

This is a good time to provide a link to an overlooked, great but (purposely?) poorly marketed movie about dysgenics. It's possible that spoofing corporations could have caused problems for the distributor and/or that the political message was so profound that it just hit too close to home.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icmRCixQrx8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW-4LU79qbU

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Stop trying to embed Base64 images guys, it doesn't work
-ViRGE
 
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zephyrprime

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Feb 18, 2001
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Sadly I think tough economic times naturally trigger a caution within intelligent and prudent people to scale back their reproduction. These are the same people who tend to have a savings account, and they're the only people who pay any attention to concerns about overpopulation, when they're exactly the last people who should do so.

We've created a society that simultaneously encourages the irresponsible to breed more, and the responsible to breed less. That should work out well for us long term.
Idiocracy wasn't just a film, it was a prophecy.
 

kage69

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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I blame the analization of porn these days, dagnabit! It's got all these youngins putting their deposits in the wrong account!

*shakes fist*