Louisiana says hold my beer - surgical castration of criminals

[nickqt]

I watched a documentary years ago where prisoners' were opting to be chemically castrated as part of a study.
They actually preferred it, the serial predators said under the treatment their lives were better as they were no longer 'driven' the one guy said every hour everyday he had predatory thoughts.
While in the program he said the thoughts disappeared for the most part and when they did occur every few months they were easily suppressed by will.
Potentially then it could be a win for the state and the individual. I don't know how many would choose to opt for it however these predators are suffering too within their own minds, and they might want the peace that could come from it.

If someone wants to volunteer to have the procedure done, then let them. If the state is using coercion then it becomes a different matter altogether.

Coercion may not sound that bad if it's a "reduced sentence", but the coercion is that they'll have a longer sentence if they don't do it.

The reason why this is a problem is that once the precedent is set that the state has the power of coercion for this group of people no one is going to defend, they're going to extend that power over the next class of people that no one or very few people are going to defend. I'm sure the NAZIs never did anything like this or whatever, we can just let it play out and see what happens.

199 days until January 20th 2025.

 

[desy]

Right part of keeping people in prison is not only punishment but to protect society by paroling for good behavior.
If they have chosen to reduce their sentences by a medical procedure then with counseling they should be a lesser threat to society and paroled.
Usually by the time a sexual predator is caught they have committed many crimes and recidivism is very high for this group, additionally they create victims as broken as they are, and usually multiples, sentencing in the first place rarely reflects the seriousness.
A judge can look at this and determine the threat.
You say stick, I say carrot

 

[nickqt]

Right part of keeping people in prison is not only punishment but to protect society by paroling for good behavior.
If they have chosen to reduce their sentences by a medical procedure then with counseling they should be a lesser threat to society and paroled.
Usually by the time a sexual predator is caught they have committed many crimes and recidivism is very high for this group, additionally they create victims as broken as they are, and usually multiples, sentencing in the first place rarely reflects the seriousness.
A judge can look at this and determine the threat.
You say stick, I say carrot

You're caught up in the idea that this carrot isn't going to be offered to other...undesirables.

You always start with the group no one is going to defend. Once it's accepted there, find the next group. Move down the line offering everybody a carrot. Everything's fine.

 

[brycejones]

I watched a documentary years ago where prisoners' were opting to be chemically castrated as part of a study.
They actually preferred it, the serial predators said under the treatment their lives were better as they were no longer 'driven' the one guy said every hour everyday he had predatory thoughts.
While in the program he said the thoughts disappeared for the most part and when they did occur every few months they were easily suppressed by will.
Potentially then it could be a win for the state and the individual. I don't know how many would choose to opt for it however these predators are suffering too within their own minds, and they might want the peace that could come from it.

Right part of keeping people in prison is not only punishment but to protect society by paroling for good behavior.
If they have chosen to reduce their sentences by a medical procedure then with counseling they should be a lesser threat to society and paroled.
Usually by the time a sexual predator is caught they have committed many crimes and recidivism is very high for this group, additionally they create victims as broken as they are, and usually multiples, sentencing in the first place rarely reflects the seriousness.
A judge can look at this and determine the threat.
You say stick, I say carrot

I say you have looked very little at the effectiveness of this procedure.

 

[desy]

From the article looks like the Louisiana State legislature did, it addressed that while hormones are only one driver albeit an important one, ingrained behaviors need to be changed, hence the counseling.
Additionally, once free, they can alter themselves with other methods chemically, hard to police that. So yes indeed lots of avenues to follow but the concept isn't new and according to those in power in the criminal justice system , worth pursuing.
I don't think many are here that could speak to it, but as always opinions vary.

 

[brycejones]

From the article looks like the Louisiana State legislature did, it addressed that while hormones are only one driver albeit an important one, ingrained behaviors need to be changed, hence the counseling.
Additionally, once free, they can alter themselves with other methods chemically, hard to police that. So yes indeed lots of avenues to follow but the concept isn't new and according to those in power in the criminal justice system , worth pursuing.
I don't think many are here that could speak to it, but as always opinions vary.

Quote for me the part of the article where you think the Louisiana State legislature did.

 

[mindless1]

Pardon if someone mentioned this already, but it's not necessarily only a 3 to 5 year incarceration difference because along with that, it also removes the possibility of early release.

I'm against it, partially due to limiting powers of state but also, it seems that the majority of sex crimes against prepubescent minors, are committed by people who are mentally ill, and should not have the choice presented to them.

according to those in power in the criminal justice system , worth pursuing.

Those in power, generally prefer expansion of their power. Nothing new there.

 

[BoomerD]

Baby rapers should just be executed. Period.

 

[brycejones]

Baby rapers should just be executed. Period.

Because of course the justice system gets it right 100% of the time.

 

[APU_Fusion]

Baby rapers should just be executed. Period.

Jews should be executed. Period. Thus begins the slope of tyranny.

 

[Viper1j]

What a horrible law. No one who voted for this can complain about ISIS.

Also given the state of the prison system in LA I assume the will just livestock castration tools.

Like I've said for years..