Louie Gohmert upset he can’t lie to Congress

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Moonbeam

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yea, i know moonie, you're unique and can offer a different perspective, and stuff.
Yes, but don’t tell everyone about it because people have been conditioned to play whack-a-mole with anybody who tries to escape the prison of safety afforded conformity conditioning.


Different is dangerous. It can threaten one’s capacity to feel that one fits in. Imagine having to die to one’s ego achievements and start over from nothing again. Better to lay low, don’t you think?
 

ch33zw1z

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Yes, but don’t tell everyone about it because people have been conditioned to play whack-a-mole with anybody who tries to escape the prison of safety afforded conformity conditioning.


Different is dangerous. It can threaten one’s capacity to feel that one fits in. Imagine having to die to one’s ego achievements and start over from nothing again. Better to lay low, don’t you think?

I'm not sure why you'd think either of your replies is even warranted.

Consider that others have the ability to see your perspective, have already parsed it's chances, and decided that it's an unlikely scenario....however optimistic and positive it would be.

But of course, this would challenge your unique perspective about your unique perspective.
 
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mikeymikec

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Out of curiosity, is the so-called 'high-tech lynching' that Thomas has allegedly been subjected to... does this boil down to people saying mean things about him on the Internet?
 
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Moonbeam

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I'm not sure why you'd think either of your replies is even warranted.

Consider that others have the ability to see your perspective, have already parsed it's chances, and decided that it's an unlikely scenario....however optimistic and positive it would be.

But of course, this would challenge your unique perspective about your unique perspective.
That's easy. The important point is that the unique can be valuable. If so then knowing there is something unique by way of knowledge that can be of priceless valuable, still nobody goes looking for such a something if they have no idea it exists. My point was to suggest that it does exist, that the unconscious assumptions we make determine how we see reality, our expectations of it, our moral stance and our psychological well being.

Everyone wants to change the world. The unique fact is that the world changes when the way you see it does. I attest to this fact by virtue of the fact that I experienced a transition within a second of time or less where the world went from abject black hopelessness to the fulfillment of all my previously naive dreams.

Also, when your plate is filled to overflowing you aim changes from feeding the self to feeding others as one can. What else is there to do?
 

ch33zw1z

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That's easy. The important point is that the unique can be valuable. If so then knowing there is something unique by way of knowledge that can be of priceless valuable, still nobody goes looking for such a something if they have no idea it exists. My point was to suggest that it does exist, that the unconscious assumptions we make determine how we see reality, our expectations of it, our moral stance and our psychological well being.

Everyone wants to change the world. The unique fact is that the world changes when the way you see it does. I attest to this fact by virtue of the fact that I experienced a transition within a second of time or less where the world went from abject black hopelessness to the fulfillment of all my previously naive dreams.

Also, when your plate is filled to overflowing you aim changes from feeding the self to feeding others as one can. What else is there to do?

except you haven’t offered anything unique yet. So 404 valuable not found.

you’re not the only one to have ideas, what’s unique is that you think your perspective is unique.
 
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Moonbeam

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except you haven’t offered anything unique yet. So 404 valuable not found.

you’re not the only one to have ideas, what’s unique is that you think your perspective is unique.

I an sorry to inform you that I believe my perspective is not only unique bet certainly true, that your true nature, who you really are and won’t allow yourself to believe yourself to be, is that thing we project and call God instead.

And because you have been profoundly programmed not to believe any of this you likewise have no real idea of your actual enormous value.

So if you think you are going to win this argument with me, you can go fuck yourself because, well no harm no foul, you already have.

My perspective is that it is your perspective that seals that fate and, know too, that your perspective is anything but unique. It is almost universal.
 

ch33zw1z

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I an sorry to inform you that I believe my perspective is not only unique bet certainly true, that your true nature, who you really are and won’t allow yourself to believe yourself to be, is that thing we project and call God instead.

And because you have been profoundly programmed not to believe any of this you likewise have no real idea of your actual enormous value.

So if you think you are going to win this argument with me, you can go fuck yourself because, well no harm no foul, you already have.

My perspective is that it is your perspective that seals that fate and, know too, that your perspective is anything but unique. It is almost universal.

there’s no “winning”when debating with you, you’re too arrogant to let that happen. You just talk in circles about how enlightened and righteous you are.

fwiw, and this is it for me, again, responding to your fun little back pats, here's what precipitated this enticing encounter...

Me:
more specifically, the right white people. But this isn’t new info, he’s just able to say it out loud now cuz that’s how far into fascist fantasy the R’s are. They aren’t happy with fantasy and are trying to make it a reality. They’re doing a good job of it too

You:
Perhaps it will turn out to be a good thing that fantasy has become so obviously real there will be no hope that if the tide turns they can ever backtrack and deny it.

Me:
perhaps, but there’s other ways it can go that seem more likely at this point

You:
Leaving aside the impossibility of certainty with regard to the future or the nature of Black Swan events, how we see the future is potentially a matter of personal projection based at a minimum on past pattern recognition according to an individual's personal history. How those two variables interact then, at a personal level, must of necessity vary by individual in such a way that while the thoughts can be shared, the experience that produces them can't.

My intention, then, as usual is not to claim to know what is true but to introduce perspectives that derive from what I believe is a different perspective. I was fortunate to have been exposed to a body of material that had that function and which may have had some small effect in helping me see differently than what???, typical.

I mean, if this is what you want to do with your free time, have at it. But you're just providing people with enough evidence to ignore whatever is you think is true. In one post you claim to not know, then you decide you do later on. I'd come up with quippy to slap you around with again, but I'm gonna be lazy and not bother.
 
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Moonbeam

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there’s no “winning”when debating with you, you’re too arrogant to let that happen. You just talk in circles about how enlightened and righteous you are.

fwiw, and this is it for me, again, responding to your fun little back pats, here's what precipitated this enticing encounter...

I mean, if this is what you want to do with your free time, have at it. But you're just providing people with enough evidence to ignore whatever is you think is true. In one post you claim to not know, then you decide you do later on. I'd come up with quippy to slap you around with again, but I'm gonna be lazy and not bother.
"Everything you say is the truth of your perspective." The previous sentence I put quotes around is true from my perspective. Additionally, from my perspective we were not debating, say, if my perspective is correct and yours is not. My intention was to relay to you that what we regard as being true is that which accords with the perspective from which we attempt to perceive it.

Furthermore, and as a consequence of the perceiving perspective as critical to the nature of the truth we perceive, I made an attempt to explain that perspective to you because of the surprise I experienced long ago when my perspective underwent a massive angular change. One moment I was far far far into myself in a state of introspection trying to discover the source of why I suffered, and owing to a gust of wind shaking my room, I was just there in the dark and knew everything, that all of my world view and previous way of perceiving the world was just a big joke, that in fact I had never really known anything. Suffering is an imaginary prison created by the unconscious acceptance that how we perceive the world is fixed. The truth is 180 degrees from wherever we look, because we look out of ego need and no such need exists.

You seem to believe my intention is to tell you how enlightened I am while for me it is just a matter of explaining how I came to know the importance of examining one's perspective. You want me to concede defeat in a debate I don't even think I am having because none of what I know would have been possible had I not lost everything by way of beliefs that held meaning for me. I lost the most important debate I can imagine. I couldn't prove a single thing I held sacred to be true and I lost all faith.

So with regard to:

"With all their bitching about increases in crime they are cool with crime as long as white people are committing it" and "more specifically, the right white people. But this isn’t new info, he’s just able to say it out loud now cuz that’s how far into fascist fantasy the R’s are. They aren’t happy with fantasy and are trying to make it a reality. They’re doing a good job of it too"

"Perhaps it will turn out to be a good thing that fantasy has become so obviously real there will be no hope that if the tide turns they can ever backtrack and deny it."

I was thinking about addicts and denial and the fact that for many there is only new hope when people bottom out, when their madness becomes so obvious and so dangerous it becomes obvious even to them. Does that mean this is going to be the way this turns out. Perhaps that's a statistical question. I think it has already happened for many and for some perhaps it never will. But in some respects the worse things get the greater the chance they will get better. This is my opinion, of course.

Worse is better from some perspectives. It was for me.