Lot of confusion on this one

[MAME]

 

[Kalvin00]

Mens'?

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: Kalvin00
Mens'?

For women?

 

[icejunkie]

It can't be Mens'

When the ' comes after the s it means the s is part of the word... In this case, the plural is Men, not Mens, so it's Men's...

 

[meltdown75]

dammit

guessed # 2.

 

[DingDingDao]

Originally posted by: icejunkie
It can't be Mens'

When the ' comes after the s it means the s is part of the word... In this case, the plural is Men, not Mens, so it's Men's...

That's what I was thinking...

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: icejunkie
It can't be Mens'

When the ' comes after the s it means the s is part of the word... In this case, the plural is Men, not Mens, so it's Men's...

Exactly!

 

[iwantanewcomputer]

Originally posted by: icejunkie
It can't be Mens'

When the ' comes after the s it means the s is part of the word... In this case, the plural is Men, not Mens, so it's Men's...

Shnikes, i take back my vote, this is right

 

[MAME]

Originally posted by: icejunkie
It can't be Mens'

When the ' comes after the s it means the s is part of the word... In this case, the plural is Men, not Mens, so it's Men's...

not always, irc

 

[desk]

how did over half the people get this wrong?

it's men's. the 's shows possesion. meaning this bathroom is for men.

 

[MAME]

Originally posted by: desk
how did over half the people get this wrong?

it's men's. the 's shows possesion. meaning this bathroom is for men.

I remember something about mens' showing possesion for more than one man, but I'm really not sure

 

[Kelemvor]

Originally posted by: icejunkie
It can't be Mens'

When the ' comes after the s it means the s is part of the word... In this case, the plural is Men, not Mens, so it's Men's...

Winnar

 

[mordantmonkey]

men is already pluaral. so Men's. how is that confusing?

 

[goodoptics]

Originally posted by: mordantmonkey
men is already pluaral. so Men's. how is that confusing?

Agreed.

 

[Juice Box]

Originally posted by: icejunkie
It can't be Mens'

When the ' comes after the s it means the s is part of the word... In this case, the plural is Men, not Mens, so it's Men's...

that is incorrect....well...thtas correct...but when the ' comes after the s it can ALSO mean that there is a plural noun possessing the object.

edit: but since men is already plural.....nevermind

 

[cjgallen]

Originally posted by: goodoptics

Originally posted by: mordantmonkey
men is already pluaral. so Men's. how is that confusing?

Agreed.

Bingo.

 

[MAME]

Originally posted by: Juice Box

Originally posted by: icejunkie
It can't be Mens'

When the ' comes after the s it means the s is part of the word... In this case, the plural is Men, not Mens, so it's Men's...

that is incorrect....well...thtas correct...but when the ' comes after the s it can ALSO mean that there is a plural noun possessing the object.

this is what I was thinking

 

[Kelemvor]

Originally posted by: Juice Box

Originally posted by: icejunkie
It can't be Mens'

When the ' comes after the s it means the s is part of the word... In this case, the plural is Men, not Mens, so it's Men's...

that is incorrect....well...thtas correct...but when the ' comes after the s it can ALSO mean that there is a plural noun possessing the object.

But it's a plural noun, then the 's' IS part of the word. So it's still correct. In fact it's normally ONLY when it's plural. Nouns that end in s can still have the 's like Lass = Lass's

 

[Phoenix86]

Originally posted by: desk
how did over half the people get this wrong?

it's men's. the 's shows possesion. meaning this bathroom is for men.

They are getting getting confused with the irregular plural form. "Mens" is not the plural, "men" is the plural for "man" and they are applying the s' rule to plural possesive incorrcetly. How over 1/2 of them missed it consider it's on a LOT of "Men's Room" signs baffles me considering most posters here are male and I'm sure, use the men's room from time to time.

 

[HumblePie]

Men is plural for Man.
So Mens' is incorrect.

Men's is also incorrect since Men is plural, the apostrophe assume conctraction. Which would make Men's = Men is. Like it's and its. One stands for "It is" and the other is a possive form for the pronoun. Which leaves us with the last option. Mens. The word men can be both noun or pronoun so adding "s" by itself at the end gives it a possesive form. There is no confusion.

The correct answer is:

Mens Restroom.

 

[DingDingDao]

Originally posted by: HumblePie
Men is plural for Man.
So Mens' is incorrect.

Men's is also incorrect since Men is plural, the apostrophe assume concatonation. Which would make Men's = Men is. Like it's and its. One stands for "It is" and the other is a possive form for the pronoun. Which leaves us with the last option. Mens. The word men can be both noun or pronoun so adding "s" by itself at the end gives it a possesive form. There is no confusion.

The correct answer is:

Mens Restroom.

The apostrophe is also used to indicate the possessive form--as in "Mike's chainsaw" or "the team's bus." Those don't translate into "Mike is chainsaw" or "the team is bus." Where the fvck did you learn English?

 

[HumblePie]

Just depends.. looked up some grammar guides on the internet and they both show Mens or Men's. Either way, one has to just be consistent when using either or. It seems both ways are correct. Since MEN is already in the plural form, adding an S by itself shows possession. Your example of Mike's versus Mikes is different. Technically "Mikes" is a bad way of saying more then one Mike but is grammatically correct. So you need to have the apostrophe to show possession instead of multiple Mikes.

Rule of thumb. If adding an S by itself would make it seem plural, you need an apostrophe. If it is already in the plural form, you can get away will adding an S itself. Men is plural so Mens is correct. Men's is also correct because you can not make a conctraction between Men and is for Men's.

There are other words that are screwy when it comes to possession and adding an S or an apostrophe S is wrong as well. "Who" doesn't become "Who's or Whos." The word becomes "Whose" for example.



I lernt maw Ngrish ofda Kraker Jak boks O K?

 

[Aharami]

1st one is grammatically correct

 

[MAME]

Originally posted by: Aharami
1st one is grammatically correct

proof?

 

[edro]

Originally posted by: icejunkie
It can't be Mens'

When the ' comes after the s it means the s is part of the word... In this case, the plural is Men, not Mens, so it's Men's...

You sir, are correct.

It's Men's.

Possessive plural problems

The current rules regarding possessive plurals have been with us for about a century. Because in English possessive and plural nouns both end with an s, a word expressing ownership of something by a group would end with s?s ? the players?s manager. It looks a little neater, and reflects vocalisation of the word better, to write the word as players?.

This page attempts to explain acceptability over two problem areas.
Possessive singulars ending with an s

Some words that end in s (bus, James, Jesus) can also be possessive. These words are often treated as possessive plurals (bus?, James?, Jesus?).

There are many accepted rules regarding such words. Monosyllabic words will usually have ?s at the end (the bus?s wheels), and words with a zed (zee) sound rather than an ess sound (e.g. James) seem to work better with ?s than with only an apostrophe (St James's Park). As a general rule, it's best to read the word out loud or even to see how the variations flow within the sentence.
Plurals not ending in an s

As some words are inherently plural (men, children, sheep, etc.), care must be taken when turning them into possessives. The erroneous "childrens? clothing" is often seen (when it should be "children?s"). Staying with attire, however, the word "menswear", meaning clothing for men, is accepted as a word in itself, so don't try and stick an apostrophe in it!

From here.