Lost in all the HC stories is how Obama betrayed the left.

[Patranus]

So they can say they did something.

So they are doing "something" that no one wants just to say that they did something.

Am I missing something?

Sounds like something a union hack would do simply to justify their job.

 

[Zebo]

In reality, we have a congress that is very conservative and are more concerned with staying a career politician/keeping things the same than helping the country.

Sad but true Shadow. I've know this for a long time but am disappoint regardless. Years ago in these forums when UHC would come up I said, it won't work in this country, our guys will just screw it up due to money. I think I realized this after Medicare part D passed.

They're not conservative but oligarch protectionists.

 

[Bitek]

Sad but true Shadow. I've know this for a long time but am disappoint regardless. Years ago in these forums when UHC would come up I said, it won't work in this country, our guys will just screw it up due to money. I think I realized this after Medicare part D passed.

They're not conservative but oligarch protectionists.

Enough of them are to make a difference. However, it doesn't mean the goal is dead, just delayed.

I think its important to take a long view and see this as another step in a very long and hard battle. Its taken decades just to achieve this. Hopefully the next step will be easier, and there are no precedents for going backwards.

May it be a lesson to Dems to plan their next moves more wisely.

 

[sciwizam]

This is just sad.

PhRMA Plans $6 million pro-reform ad buy in 38 House Districts

A bit of good news for Democrats: PhRMA agreed Tuesday to fund an initial $6 million ad buy in the districts of 38 wavering House Democrats. The pro-reform ads will come from the industry-funded coalition Americans for Stable Quality Care and could hit the airwaves as early as today, a top industry official said. The deep-pocketed trade group didn’t decide how much it would spend in total on the campaign; officials are waiting to review the bill first. The decision to flip the switch on five or six days worth of advertising will come when the industry is comfortable with the bill’s direction. The drug industry is really the only pro-reform group able to match the millions being spent by opponents like the Chamber of Commerce. And the White House had been pressuring the industry for days to OK the ads, industry sources said. So it appears Dems will be getting some air cover soon.

 

[rudder]

The Democrats refuse to address population explosion nor acknowledge it as a problem. The Republicans refuse to address population explosion nor acknowledge it as a problem.
[/INDENT]So what is the big difference between them? In terms of basic economic policy they seem almost the same. I think the Democrats are a little better than the Republicans on economic issues, but not by much. The only good thing about the Democrats is that they are not religious wackos. As far as I'm concerned, they all stink and all but a small handful of our Congressmen should have their assets seized, their U.S. citizenship revoked, and be deported out of the U.S.

I do not respect Bill Clinton at all... but you have to admit that when he was president and we had a Republican controlled congress... at least where the budget was concerned... good things happened. The republicans in congress promised to balance the budget within a specified timeframe and forced Clinton to revise his budget 5 times in 1995 to achieve this.... of course we hit a recession towards the latter part of Clintons 2nd term, and the public tends to vote out the incumbent party when the economy goes south, then 9/11, then Bush deficits... then dems controlled congress, then obama, now I cry myself to sleep every night.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

In reality, we have a congress that is very conservative and are more concerned with staying a career politician/keeping things the same than helping the country.

And this, my friends, is the truth.

 

[Pneumothorax]

This is just sad.

PhRMA Plans $6 million pro-reform ad buy in 38 House Districts

This goes to prove that big pharma got a "sweetheart deal" in this whole sausage-making business. They want this POC to pass so they get the lesser of the two evils, when they should be giving up a lot more. I mean the rest of the healthcare industry including us providers are going to take it in the chin if the current bill passes, so I want the drug co's to go down with us equally/fairly.

 

[Atreus21]

I think he's going to be a one-term president and I won't feel baldy about it.

Yeah, I don't think I'll lose my hair either.

 

[Zebo]

This is just sad.

PhRMA Plans $6 million pro-reform ad buy in 38 House Districts

Merger of corp and state like this is called fascism. Wonder how many x Democratic congressmen will become CEO's & VPs of big pharma/insurance for ripping off the American people.

 

[cubby1223]

If anyone doesn't believe this is a step towards government run healthcare, here's one new situation here:
http://news.walgreens.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=5288

The government will be using even more price controls with this new health care reform, which will continue cutting out the private industry leaving only the government left to provide.

 

[woolfe9999]

That is not what he said though. He pimped single payer in campaign and the public option is a wayyyyy watered down form of single payer. In fact all it does is force businesses to compete against the "ineffecint' Govt.

When did he "pimp single payor" during the campaign? Please provide a citation to back this up.

- wolf