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Losing faith in George Lucas

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Zerohm

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We should have seen it coming when Lucas invented ewoks, to replace wookies on the forest moon of Endore. I don't want cute teddy bears throwing rocks. I want to see wookies rippin' storm troopers' arms off in an Empirial bloodbath. This minor change did not detract from the quality of the trilogy, in fact, the final battle in Jedi was amazing. However, Lucas did change his original idea to expand his audience (and therefore revenue).

Episode 1, however was totally devoid of inspiration. It had great cinematography, music, and fight scenes, but it also included:
1. fart jokes
2. slap stick humor
3. Jar Jar
4. Lack of interesting plot
5. More of 2 & 3.

I still have hopes that episode 1 was just an introduction of characters, and that things will actually start happening in episode 2 (like a plot). Since Empire was the best of the first trilogy, episode 2 actually has potential to be a good movie.
Come on George, save yourself from the ridicule of your own fans.

ps. bring back models. The star destroyers of old looked cooler and more authoritive than any CG ship in episode 1.
 
George Lucas is the incarnation of greed. The crap you mentioned that is seen in Episode I is evidence of the fact that he is willing to coopt any values he has as a filmmaker in pursuit of money. I've heard film critics argue that George Lucas killed the American movie. There were some good movies in the 1970's, but ever since Star Wars was released, the goal of most mainstream movies is to become a blockbuster full of overpaid, unskilled actors and expensive special effects. Lucasfilm is another example of his greed. He feels like he needs to release a home theater standard (THX) that is no better than the existing standards, e.g., DTS, just so he can make a load of money on the companies that pursue THX certification. I doubt that the little badge on the front of a receiver comes for free. I lost all respect for him long ago. I fully expect Episode II to contain the same mind-numbing drivel as the first.
 


<< 4. Lack of interesting plot >>



That must be a typo, I'm sure you meant to say "Lack of plot". Not to mention:

6. Bastardization of the Force... based on amount of Jedi Puffs consumed for breakfest
7. Enemy alien languages replaced by French and Japanese accents (inexcusable, really)
8. Virgin birth, Vader is apparently Jesus and later dies for Lucas' sins

I'm sure that others can keep the list going...




 
7. Enemy alien languages replaced by French and Japanese accents (inexcusable, really)

Agreed. That was totally retarded.

I also agree that Lucas has fallen from grace. Star wars is such a damn good world that even with him buggaring it EP2 will be a good movie, but it could be so much more. I wish that lucas would just sell the rights to a real director. Can you imagine how good the movies would be if somebody of a more mature persuasion came along and made them? Perhaps restricted? I can imagine the light saber fights then...I just think that the star wars world could be so much more.

Then lets not forget what a POS lucasarts has become. It used to put out nothing but quality but in recent years the vast majority of lucasarts titles are barely worthy of being kindling.
 


<< 7. Enemy alien languages replaced by French and Japanese accents (inexcusable, really)

Agreed. That was totally retarded.

I also agree that Lucas has fallen from grace. Star wars is such a damn good world that even with him buggaring it EP2 will be a good movie, but it could be so much more. I wish that lucas would just sell the rights to a real director. Can you imagine how good the movies would be if somebody of a more mature persuasion came along and made them? Perhaps restricted? I can imagine the light saber fights then...I just think that the star wars world could be so much more.

Then lets not forget what a POS lucasarts has become. It used to put out nothing but quality but in recent years the vast majority of lucasarts titles are barely worthy of being kindling. >>



Remind me, where were the French accents in Ep. 1? I remember that the trade federation guys had obvious japanese accents, but I can't recall French....?

 
Lucas does not care if anyone likes the new Star Wars trilogy. He has said he is doing the movies the way HE wants them.
 


<< Remind me, where were the French accents in Ep. 1? I remember that the trade federation guys had obvious japanese accents, but I can't recall French....? >>



Ssh, we're having fun bashing him ok?
 
If Lucas had any balls or dedication to the Star Wars franchise, he'd do the movies in the same manner that the Lord of the Rings trilogy is being done. After Jar Jar, I have no hope whatsoever for the second one.

However, I WILL be seeing the movie because Natalie Portman features in it quite prominently. Who cares about the plot?!?
 
hmm, here's another point to add to the list (which has been left out for some reason)

9. The casting of N'Suck as Jedi for EP2
 
Yeah martythemaniac, that's what prompted me to write this thread.

There's only one way for Lucas to save this sinking ship:
Every starwars movie opens with a ship or something flying through space. Start episode II with Jar Jar flying solo through deep space. Then suddenly KABOOOM!!! Jar Jar is disintegrated by a hail of gunfire from an approaching star destroyer.

Anyone over the age of 15 would cheer their ass off.
 


<< hmm, here's another point to add to the list (which has been left out for some reason)

9. The casting of N'Suck as Jedi for EP2 >>




Aww yeah.. can't forget N'Sync in episode two. That proves that the movie is a complete MTV sell out with no urge to be a good story like the first 3 were but instead a moneymaking machine.
 
George Lucas was never really that great of a filmmaker. His impact on the industry comes with his innovations in special effects.
 


<< Remind me, where were the French accents in Ep. 1? I remember that the trade federation guys had obvious japanese accents, but I can't recall French....? >>



i thought everyone was refering to the gungans... who had sort of an cajun/french carribiean accent I could have been carribiean english or a Jamcian accent as well...

whatever is was, it wasn't very classy.
 
You once had fatih in Lucas, the man that invented the blockbuster movie tie-in genre (meaning action figures, etc...)? I mean come on, he just plain sucks. Horrible filmmaker, great businessman.
 
Not only is Lucas F'ing up the new episodes, we went back and F'd up the originals. (greedo shooting first, Han Solo running into 100 troopers instead of 8, horrible scene with Jaba the Hut)

Not that examples of Lucas being greedy are hard to find, here's another one:
To download the all of the new Episode 2 trailor, you have to put the episode 1 dvd in your dvd rom. He's making people pay to see his advertising!
 


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<< Remind me, where were the French accents in Ep. 1? I remember that the trade federation guys had obvious japanese accents, but I can't recall French....? >>



i thought everyone was refering to the gungans... who had sort of an cajun/french carribiean accent I could have been carribiean english or a Jamcian accent as well...

whatever is was, it wasn't very classy. >>



I think the Gungan accent was from the island of Stupid....



<< Didn't Vader's mom have a French or Irish accent? >>



Well, yeah, but if you're gonna be picky about that making the movie bad, then you have to say that every episode, movie, etc. of the original Star Trek was bad because they had a guy with a Scottish accent. People still love that stuff.....I can't get too upset about Lucas casting people with accents, but the creatures in the movie that have accents like the Gungans and the Trade Federation guys make it suck a little since the accents aren't very original.

Okay, since we're bashing Lucas here, let me put my 2 cents in. Lucas is to the blockbuster movie as Gates is to software. Discuss.
 


<< I am going to watch Ep2 just for Natalie 🙂 mmmmm, Natalie 😛 >>


Ditto. she is a hottie.

BTW I lost faith in Lucas after witnessing Episode 1.
 
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