If this was true, there wouldn't have been space for Walmart to move in. The previous company would have been established with the $8.25 minimum wage. Now that it's almost 50% higher, it's even less likely someone will decide to spend the capital to build and move in.
If this was true, there wouldn't have been space for Walmart to move in. The previous company would have been established with the $8.25 minimum wage. Now that it's almost 50% higher, it's even less likely someone will decide to spend the capital to build and move in.
Londo_Jowo
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Speaking of unions.
How much of that $12.50/hr will the union require in dues?
Will it really still be a liveable wage after dues are taken?
How much of that $12.50/hr will the union require in dues?
Will it really still be a liveable wage after dues are taken?
OILFIELDTRASH
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Oh look the resident nutcase is calling someone else a moron. Go back to your basement you creep.
Really? From the article:
I've lived in this area for most of my life, and retailers are definitely NOT flocking to the parts of the city where Walmart was going to build stores. Strange that the council members from the parts of the city where these stores were actually going to go voted against the bill. Maybe they know what their residents actually need?
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God forbid the urban poor be allowed to have a grocery store within walking distance. Liquor stores and convenience marts selling junk food are good enough!
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Kneedragger
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Even though I hate Walmart for their practices I'd much rather have them bring more jobs in for people that need work and don't really have an education to get a better job.
OILFIELDTRASH
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There's been plenty of instances where Wal-Mart has moved into places and put smaller businesses out of business where demand was being met. Thanks for your input even as misinformed as it may be.
You want people to lose their jobs which is what's going to happen with Walmart leaving and you call me a nutcase.
OILFIELDTRASH
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Grocery store. What they need is 100% certified organic foods. Anything less is a violation of their rights.
Whole Foods or no foods! :awe:
Speaking of being misinformed, how does the guy from Texas know the needs of Anacostia better than, say, that neighborhood's own council member, who says that his constituents don't have easy access to groceries and consumer goods?
why are people on the left upset about working people on Medicaid? Its the single payer dream they all have.
So what about the other corporations within the city paying people at 8.25\hour?
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Depends on circumstances. A person with no kids can easily live on slave wages. Adding 1 kid would double the cost of living because day care cost as much as rent.
The complexity of determining "living wage" is why lots of countries don't push the costs of living all on the employer. Look at a country like UK or Canada. Who pays for public school? The government does, and that's about 10k per year per student. Who pays for health care in those countries? The goverment does, and that would cost maybe 10k for a person who has 1 child (look at charts of health spending per person by country). Some countries like France and Norway also have government provided day care. How much would that cost if it came from wages? That too is another 10k per year. Let's say the basic cost of rent and food is 20k ($10/h), what would be a living wage with no government assistance at all?
20k base cost + 10k education + 10k medical + 10k day care = $50,000 per year.
Is it reasonable to set minimum wage at 50k? Probably not, and that wouldn't really do anything to fix poverty because you would still end up with a class of 16 year old kids making 50k and driving BMWs in addition to a class of poor people who make 50k at the same job and are just barely hanging on. This is why setting "living wage" is a horrible idea. Instead of fucking with the wage, try handing out government benefits to those who need them such as public school, public health care, and public day care. The countries that have those government benefits tend to have much lower rates of poverty.
Don't hate the player, hate the game. They're shipping jobs to China because they're allowed to and it gives them a competitive edge. Do you just expect them to stay with US companies and take a loss out of the goodness of their hearts? That's ridiculous. If you want them to act responsible, it's up to voters and the government to set the laws so responsibility is the only option.
is that against the law?
maybe you should quit your walmart job if you don't like what they're paying you.
People wanted cheaper goods. Walmart came along to fill that need, and you're blaming Walmart for the social wreckage?
OILFIELDTRASH
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These idiots can't see past the cheap goods they are buying at Wal-Mart. Flushing this country's future down the drain for Chinese junk.
OILFIELDTRASH
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Things change. Last years car models were $2000 cheaper. That doesn't mean you are entitled to last years prices today. Don't like it take your slave wages and stick them in your ass.
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True and a big reason I don't like WM but the need wasn't being met by anyone else in this case. 1800 jobs is a big deal.
On the flip side, if Americans gave a crap about quality or their locally owned stores WM wouldn't have such a big footprint. "Give me cheap crap." FTL.
The cost of manufacturing is higher in this country due to regulations. Blame people wanting to buy cheap stuff for why manufacturing is going overseas. In a fantasy world our manufacturers could charge a sizeable % more than foreign manufacturers and remain in business.
Welcome to democracy! Who ever said it would be pretty? Next, are you going to wonder why every major mature democracy seems to be running chronic deficits? The future exists to be flushed, according to the masses.
Then why wont they raise the min rage for all retailers? And how noble of you to tell people they arent entitled to work for fed min wage.
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