Los Angeles will use taxes to pay for the homeless

[FIVR]

Seems like a good plan. If the economy won't allow these people to earn enough to pay for somewhere to live, then the government needs to step in and help these people out. Did not the great Donald Trump say "We can't just have people dying in the streets"? Looks like CA is starting to do something about it.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/08/los-angeles-homelessness-sales-tax-approved

 

[BoomerD]

Seattle is going to float a measure to increase taxes to support the homeless too...

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Seattle-homeless-property-tax-Mayor-Ed-Murray-6787821.php

Seattle's Mayor Murray hasn't met a new tax he didn't love...SO glad I don't live there. (close enough to see the city across the water...not close enough to be directly affected by the uber-liberal bullshit that goes on there.

 

[Double Trouble]

If the economy won't allow these people to earn enough to pay for somewhere to live

Are we sure about this premise? Is it the economy, or is there a significant percentage that is due to poor life choices?

Either way, if that's what LA wants to do, good for them, it doesn't impact me.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Are we sure about this premise? Is it the economy, or is there a significant percentage that is due to poor life choices?

Either way, if that's what LA wants to do, good for them, it doesn't impact me.

A significant number are homeless due to mental illness and having services cut in the 80s fwiw. I mean some of them might have fried their minds on LSD or something, but the average homeless person literally on the streets isn't just some idiot that slacked off in high school and couldn't find a decent job.

 

[Double Trouble]

A significant number are homeless due to mental illness and having services cut in the 80s fwiw. I mean some of them might have fried their minds on LSD or something, but the average homeless person literally on the streets isn't just some idiot that slacked off in high school and couldn't find a decent job.

I know a lot of the homeless are people with mental issues as well, but I don't think the majority are really because of the economy, they are homeless because of other factors including mental illness. Poor choices can include all sorts of things like drugs, alcohol, violence (causing incarceration and job loss).

 

[FIVR]

Its a quarter cent tax, which Los Angeles voters can easily pay. That quarter cent will provide BILLIONS of dollars to support the homeless. Would you rather your meal costs $10.03 instead of $10.00 and you are not harassed by the homeless as you enter the restaurant, or would you rather save your 3 cents?

 

[Jhhnn]

Seattle is going to float a measure to increase taxes to support the homeless too...

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Seattle-homeless-property-tax-Mayor-Ed-Murray-6787821.php

Seattle's Mayor Murray hasn't met a new tax he didn't love...SO glad I don't live there. (close enough to see the city across the water...not close enough to be directly affected by the uber-liberal bullshit that goes on there.

Yeh, shoulda been born rich, like the Donald. Shoulda been luckier, too.

 

[cytg111]

I would pay that tax gladly. Wait. I all ready do ..

 

[PokerGuy]

Its a quarter cent tax, which Los Angeles voters can easily pay. That quarter cent will provide BILLIONS of dollars to support the homeless. Would you rather your meal costs $10.03 instead of $10.00 and you are not harassed by the homeless as you enter the restaurant, or would you rather save your 3 cents?

You can make that argument about anything, "it's only 5%, the cos of your burger goes from $5 to $5.25, you can afford that". Using that type of logic you can justify just about any tax increase.

 

[desura]

You have to wonder why do the homeless all gravitate to places like LA? Why don't they try and go to some boring suburb, work some boring job, and have a boring roof over their heads? Anyone who moves to an expensive metro like LA has the risk of becoming homeless if things don't work out the way they should.

 

[cytg111]

You have to wonder why do the homeless all gravitate to places like LA? Why don't they try and go to some boring suburb, work some boring job, and have a boring roof over their heads? Anyone who moves to an expensive metro like LA has the risk of becoming homeless if things don't work out the way they should.

Not that simple. Some of these people are homeless because the mere idea and responsibility of checking your post for bills, like the rent, is freaking them out. Cant cut the hair of a bold man so these thought experiments "why dont they just do this...." is starting in a wrong place. Rebuilding a man/woman from the buttom is hard work, not a snap with the fingers..

 

[1prophet]

Its a quarter cent tax, which Los Angeles voters can easily pay. That quarter cent will provide BILLIONS of dollars to support the homeless. Would you rather your meal costs $10.03 instead of $10.00 and you are not harassed by the homeless as you enter the restaurant, or would you rather save your 3 cents?

Is that quarter cent tax going to disappear in the general fund like many other taxes, and will the homeless just be rounded up out of sight out of mind so some democrats can score political points short term in exchange for a far worse problem long term?

 

[glenn1]

Its a quarter cent tax, which Los Angeles voters can easily pay. That quarter cent will provide BILLIONS of dollars to support the homeless. Would you rather your meal costs $10.03 instead of $10.00 and you are not harassed by the homeless as you enter the restaurant, or would you rather save your 3 cents?

You should provide the context the proposal will raise the sales tax by 0.25% from 9.5% to 9.75%. That being said I applaud LA for fixing their own problems their own way and not asking the rest of us to foot the bill for them.

 

[hal2kilo]

You have to wonder why do the homeless all gravitate to places like LA? Why don't they try and go to some boring suburb, work some boring job, and have a boring roof over their heads? Anyone who moves to an expensive metro like LA has the risk of becoming homeless if things don't work out the way they should.

Must not live in the burbs. They're moving out here too. Greeted at the big intersections and off ramps on a regular basis with the tattered card board signs. Most look able bodied. Probably have substance abuse issues and or mental issues. Heroin and meth are everywhere. Not sure why some of the cons have such a hard on about the cities. They are just whistling past the graveyard.

 

[hal2kilo]

Seattle is going to float a measure to increase taxes to support the homeless too...

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Seattle-homeless-property-tax-Mayor-Ed-Murray-6787821.php

Seattle's Mayor Murray hasn't met a new tax he didn't love...SO glad I don't live there. (close enough to see the city across the water...not close enough to be directly affected by the uber-liberal bullshit that goes on there.

Seems we live in the same neck of the woods. He's become a caricature of what conservatives think liberals are. What kills me, is that people voted overwhelmingly for these increases. Now that the real estate tax bills have come due people are coming unglued. But, that hasn't slowed Murray down one bit, and he just keeps proposing more taxes.

 

[Ns1]

You have to wonder why do the homeless all gravitate to places like LA? Why don't they try and go to some boring suburb, work some boring job, and have a boring roof over their heads? Anyone who moves to an expensive metro like LA has the risk of becoming homeless if things don't work out the way they should.

Because many are messed up via mental illness and/or drugs and are unemployable. There are no/minimal services to help these people out.

http://www.scpr.org/programs/take-t...-health-remains-challenge-for-california-s-h/

 

[piasabird]

This would only work if there are people who can afford to pay a tax when a 400 sq ft apartment costs $3000 a month.

 

[Homerboy]

Good on CA. Wish more states would adopt policies of general welfare, for that matter have something passed down federally.

PS: I'd say this is a P&N topic.

 

[Homerboy]

You have to wonder why do the homeless all gravitate to places like LA? Why don't they try and go to some boring suburb, work some boring job, and have a boring roof over their heads? Anyone who moves to an expensive metro like LA has the risk of becoming homeless if things don't work out the way they should.

Glad to see you're spreading your ignorance and shortsightedness some more in P&N.