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Looks like the Nikon D70/D70s successor is about to arrive...

Poor Nikon. I think Sony has them by the nuts. They need to find a new supplier ASAP.
Alot of things exciting coming up in the next few months. It should be a good year for SLR's.
 
Is it a full frame dSLR? No.

This means the viewfinder is like staring down a toilet paper tube vs a 40yr old film SLR, and all your wide lenses act like telephotos.

No thanks - saving up for a 5D.
 
Your comparing the full frame 5d to a camera that will likely cost 1/2 the amount? Its in a different class. I don't see how your post is relevant.
 
Originally posted by: spikespiegal
Is it a full frame dSLR? No.

This means the viewfinder is like staring down a toilet paper tube vs a 40yr old film SLR, and all your wide lenses act like telephotos.

No thanks - saving up for a 5D.
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😕

Your current telephotos now have more reach, your wides are now closer to a normal lens (not telephotos), and wides in the 10mm-24mm range are still available... and wide.

I can't argue against the viewfinder though, but 1.3x crop cameras aren't too bad. Certainly not as good as an old film SLR... their viewfinders are frickin' movie screens. *drool*

EDIT: One of the reasons why I'm not actively saving up for a 5D is because I lose the extra reach. Meaning if you shoot only wides, go for a full frame, but don't knock on the people or the cameras that want and have crop sensors, because their purposes are probably totally different from your's.
 
Originally posted by: spikespiegal
Is it a full frame dSLR? No.

This means the viewfinder is like staring down a toilet paper tube vs a 40yr old film SLR, and all your wide lenses act like telephotos.

No thanks - saving up for a 5D.
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I don't really see how this is relevant, but keep saving. I'll be out shooting. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: spikespiegal
Is it a full frame dSLR? No.

This means the viewfinder is like staring down a toilet paper tube vs a 40yr old film SLR, and all your wide lenses act like telephotos.

No thanks - saving up for a 5D.
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I don't really see how this is relevant, but keep saving. I'll be out shooting. 🙂
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he is a bitter, bitter man.
 
Originally posted by: spikespiegal
Is it a full frame dSLR? No.

This means the viewfinder is like staring down a toilet paper tube vs a 40yr old film SLR, and all your wide lenses act like telephotos.

No thanks - saving up for a 5D.
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Get a Pentax *ist DS2. The viewfinder is nearly as big as the 5D's.
Canon/Nikon uses tiny tunnel vision viewfinders on their mid to low end SLRs.
As for the lenses, digital purpose built wide angle lenses are no different than film equivalents.
Full frame is an arbitrarily defined format. There's no secret magic to it.
 
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Originally posted by: spikespiegal
Is it a full frame dSLR? No.

This means the viewfinder is like staring down a toilet paper tube vs a 40yr old film SLR, and all your wide lenses act like telephotos.

No thanks - saving up for a 5D.
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Get a Pentax *ist DS2. The viewfinder is nearly as big as the 5D's.
Canon/Nikon uses tiny tunnel vision viewfinders on their mid to low end SLRs.
As for the lenses, digital purpose built wide angle lenses are no different than film equivalents.
Full frame is an arbitrarily defined format. There's no secret magic to it.
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Hehe, I tried a *ist once and when I brought the viewfinder to my eyes I was like "OMG *brain asplodes*"

The XT's viewfinder sucks hardcore 🙁
 
he is a bitter, bitter man
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I currently own a 10D, and have several friends with D70's and D200s. Since I have a better workflow and more experience (been using 6mp dSLRs since the mid 90's), I either match the best they can do or surpass it even considering I have the older camera. Would you like to compare your work to my work big mouth? To get a legitimate increase in quality I've had to rent a 1Ds.

Your basic 5-8megapixel digicam is rapidly catching up the quality of a APS style dSLR, which baffles me why people are still buying them other than to say they are using a "dSLR".

RE: Pentax. The viewfinder is bigger, but also dimmer. I worked for a newspaper for a few years outside of HS, and I can manually focus better and faster than any autofocus there is, except for maybe the D2X.
 
Originally posted by: spikespiegal
he is a bitter, bitter man
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I currently own a 10D, and have several friends with D70's and D200s. Since I have a better workflow and more experience (been using 6mp dSLRs since the mid 90's), I either match the best they can do or surpass it even considering I have the older camera. Would you like to compare your work to my work big mouth? To get a legitimate increase in quality I've had to rent a 1Ds.

Your basic 5-8megapixel digicam is rapidly catching up the quality of a APS style dSLR, which baffles me why people are still buying them other than to say they are using a "dSLR".

RE: Pentax. The viewfinder is bigger, but also dimmer. I worked for a newspaper for a few years outside of HS, and I can manually focus better and faster than any autofocus there is, except for maybe the D2X.
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Name a 5-8 MP P&S that has the same DOF control and fast shooting capabilities, among other things.
 
As for the lenses, digital purpose built wide angle lenses are no different than film equivalents.
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Canon *does not make* such a lens and relies on older lens designs optimized for the larger 24x36mm film format. Nikon I give credit to because at least some of their newer wide-zooms are designed for the smaller APS format. Unfortunatley, none of these deliver the quality of a fixed 28 or 35mm on a 1Ds because I've already made my own comparisons.
 
Name a 5-8 MP P&S that has the same DOF control and fast shooting capabilities, among other things
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(A) A professional photographer requiring high FPS won't be using an amatuer Nikon dSLR.

(B) Depth of field control is usefull only if you can see the damn depth of field to begin with, which is next to impossible with a APS style dSLR. If you are using autofocus, spare me the depth of field arguement because you have no clue where your plane of focus is.
 
Originally posted by: spikespiegal
he is a bitter, bitter man
Click to expand...

I currently own a 10D, and have several friends with D70's and D200s. Since I have a better workflow and more experience (been using 6mp dSLRs since the mid 90's), I either match the best they can do or surpass it even considering I have the older camera. Would you like to compare your work to my work big mouth? To get a legitimate increase in quality I've had to rent a 1Ds.

Your basic 5-8megapixel digicam is rapidly catching up the quality of a APS style dSLR, which baffles me why people are still buying them other than to say they are using a "dSLR".

RE: Pentax. The viewfinder is bigger, but also dimmer. I worked for a newspaper for a few years outside of HS, and I can manually focus better and faster than any autofocus there is, except for maybe the D2X.
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Pics?

What's your gallery address?
 
Originally posted by: spikespiegal
Name a 5-8 MP P&S that has the same DOF control and fast shooting capabilities, among other things
Click to expand...

(A) A professional photographer requiring high FPS won't be using an amatuer Nikon dSLR.

(B) Depth of field control is usefull only if you can see the damn depth of field to begin with, which is next to impossible with a APS style dSLR. If you are using autofocus, spare me the depth of field arguement because you have no clue where your plane of focus is.
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Oh yes, only professional photographers take high FPS shots. Nobody else is allowed to. :roll:
 
Originally posted by: spikespiegal
As for the lenses, digital purpose built wide angle lenses are no different than film equivalents.
Click to expand...

Canon *does not make* such a lens and relies on older lens designs optimized for the larger 24x36mm film format. Nikon I give credit to because at least some of their newer wide-zooms are designed for the smaller APS format. Unfortunatley, none of these deliver the quality of a fixed 28 or 35mm on a 1Ds because I've already made my own comparisons.
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10-22mm?

Are you talking about the 1Ds MKII or MKI?
 
They really butchered the last few frames when they did the screen grabs, unless Nikon realized how crappy it looked and fixed it. On Nikon's site there isn't such a defined line around the area that's blacked out.
 
Originally posted by: spikespiegal
RE: Pentax. The viewfinder is bigger, but also dimmer.
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The dimness mostly depends on the lens mounted. You probably used a slow lens on the Pentax. If you have a shoddy F/5.6 zoom mounted.. it won't look very bright with any viewfinder. Mount a 50mm F/1.4 prime, and it'll be like turning on the lights.
That said.. *ist DL is known for having the brightest viewfinder out there.
 
Originally posted by: spikespiegal
he is a bitter, bitter man
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I currently own a 10D, and have several friends with D70's and D200s. Since I have a better workflow and more experience (been using 6mp dSLRs since the mid 90's), I either match the best they can do or surpass it even considering I have the older camera. Would you like to compare your work to my work big mouth? To get a legitimate increase in quality I've had to rent a 1Ds.

Your basic 5-8megapixel digicam is rapidly catching up the quality of a APS style dSLR, which baffles me why people are still buying them other than to say they are using a "dSLR".

RE: Pentax. The viewfinder is bigger, but also dimmer. I worked for a newspaper for a few years outside of HS, and I can manually focus better and faster than any autofocus there is, except for maybe the D2X.
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e-penis++

You may be a good photographer but you still come across as a complete ass
 
I look forward to seeing what Canon is going to offer...more so in the lens department than body department.

Rumor has it, since the EOS-30D is really just an EOS-20D MkII and perhaps just a stop-gap body, they are going to really introduce their next-gen low/mid bodies during Photokina in August. If Canon really wants to blow the world away, they'll introduce inexpensive versions of the EOS-5D, meaning Full-Frame. Now that would be killer!
 
BTW, most agree what APS-C DSLRs (1.6x) are a dead-end. FF sensors will continue to drop in price. Pretty soon you'll be able to buy one for the price of an EOS-30D. To that end, I am no longer investing in EF-S glass. EF lenses only for me please.
 
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