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looks like some companies are making 2gb gtx 460's

Not might...they are good in SLI 🙂 Think about it if a GTX460 OCed = 5850/470, then 2 of those in SLI will smack a 5970 upside down for $450, a good $250 cheaper.

384 SP part, if maintains the same remarkable overclocking, would be the best card of 2010, if released < $270.

You know if you were ATI's management right now, you would be preparing a full SI refresh for the fall of 2010, dropping 5850 to $199, 5870 to $299 and SI high end parts at $399 and $499 against GTX485 and probably GTX490 when it comes. Just like that and you have regained the market lead from NV in all price segments! hehe can't wait for renewed competition. And then when NV responds, well Q2 2011 and you have NI waiting 🙂 oops
 
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Didn't we see almost no benefits from the 2gb 5870 variants for all non eyefinity resolutions?4210
 
Didn't we see almost no benefits from the 2gb 5870 variants for all non eyefinity resolutions?4210

yet the existance of eyefinity and its nvidia counterpart necessitate cards with this much ram.
This is going to be great for people running nvidia surround.
 
Until proven, I think I personally would go with a 1GB card because in my experience the highest density memory can't overclock as well as lower density memory.
 
Don't 2gb buffers only show gains over a 1gb card at high resolutions? Seems like a waste on a value gpu. How long before price's on AMD parts start moving?
 
Until proven, I think I personally would go with a 1GB card because in my experience the highest density memory can't overclock as well as lower density memory.

Well, true it can't OC as well... but I think SLI @ 5760x1200 resolution would benefit from more than 1GB of ram.
I mean, I am curious as to exact figures, but if I were to make an educated guess...
 
2GB 5870s aren't really worth it, this would be even less so and really only for e-peen, won't be worth the price premium.

Maybe it would be useful in SLI with 2560x1600+ and/or multi-monitor setup, but certainly no holy grail card.
 
I thought the 4gb 5970 showed nice gains in ultra high settings?
WHy shouldn't these cards in sli show the same gains in the same settings?
Considering the 4gb 5970 cost more then a 1000$, These cards in sli for 5 or 600$ should be a steal.
 
Until proven, I think I personally would go with a 1GB card because in my experience the highest density memory can't overclock as well as lower density memory.

I may be mistaken, but isn't the memory controller really the limiting factor for most Fermi-based memory ocing? This definitely could change if very slow memory was used for these high-density solutions, however.
 
I may be mistaken, but isn't the memory controller really the limiting factor for most Fermi-based memory ocing? This definitely could change if very slow memory was used for these high-density solutions, however.

The controller is the limitation. Most of the memory being used is 4ghz memory.
 
Not might...they are good in SLI 🙂 Think about it if a GTX460 OCed = 5850/470, then 2 of those in SLI will smack a 5970 upside down for $450, a good $250 cheaper.

384 SP part, if maintains the same remarkable overclocking, would be the best card of 2010, if released < $270.

You know if you were ATI's management right now, you would be preparing a full SI refresh for the fall of 2010, dropping 5850 to $199, 5870 to $299 and SI high end parts at $399 and $499 against GTX485 and probably GTX490 when it comes. Just like that and you have regained the market lead from NV in all price segments! hehe can't wait for renewed competition. And then when NV responds, well Q2 2011 and you have NI waiting 🙂 oops

the only problem with your theory is our friends at tsmc. if they can't keep up with supply then supply/demand will continue to exert upward pressure on prices even as nvidia pushes them down. In fact, the best news about this card's good price/performance is that it makes me think that we might FINALLY be getting decent 40nm production.
 
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