looks like english aljazeera is up now

[iamWolverine]

Like the title says: here for those interested

 

[apoppin]

I wonder how long this stays "up"?

It looks like they found a new host . . . for their "temporary site" . . . think the Pentagon will hack this one?

 

[Ornery]

All I get is a blank page.

"think the Pentagon will hack this one?"

That deserves an eye roll al right. If people could make a career of beeing an ass, you'd be rich!

 

[Wag]

It's getting hammered again.

They need a better server.

Ok- just got in. I find it a little amusing that quite a few of the articles aren't news at all, just Al-Jazeera defending themselves by stating they're objective. You rarely see other news organizations doing that.

 

[Ornery]

My address bar says:

• http://english.aljazeera.net/topics/index.asp?cu_no=1&lng=0&template_id=1&temp_type=44

I copied the source for the index page, so something's there. Here's some topics:

• 5 killed in air raids over Mosul
  Security risks prevent aid from getting in
  Baghdad communications tower hit, phone contact cut
  Syrian leaders speak out against the war
  Baghdad's maternity hospital hit in airstrike killing one civilian
  Do or die battle for Republican Guard
  Training of the "future" Iraqi administration is underway
  UN confident of averting food crisis
  Al Jazeera accused of running ?shock and awe? campaign
  Cheney's former employer promised slice of Iraqi oil pie

How credible is a site that can't handle traffic, or have some mirrors, or something?

 

[AbsolutDealage]

How credible is a site that can't handle traffic, or have some mirrors, or something?

This has nothing to do with thier credibility. You show me a server that can handle every wannabe-hacker DOS-attacking it and I'll show you a server that Al-Jazeera can't afford. This isn't thier fault.

 

[Alistar7]

Originally posted by: AbsolutDealage

How credible is a site that can't handle traffic, or have some mirrors, or something?

This has nothing to do with thier credibility. You show me a server that can handle every wannabe-hacker DOS-attacking it and I'll show you a server that Al-Jazeera can't afford. This isn't thier fault.

Can't afford? Any idea who their main benefactor is? He can afford it easily.

 

[Ornery]

Originally posted by: AbsolutDealage

How credible is a site that can't handle traffic, or have some mirrors, or something?

This has nothing to do with thier credibility. You show me a server that can handle every wannabe-hacker DOS-attacking it and I'll show you a server that Al-Jazeera can't afford. This isn't thier fault.

Well, I'm sure FNC, CNN, MSNBC et al, get attacked in this way, and they keep plodding along. I get the impression Aljazeera is a two bit operation!

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: apoppin
I wonder how long this stays "up"?

It looks like they found a new host . . . for their "temporary site" . . . think the Pentagon will hack this one?

oooohhh, boogy, boogy, boogy... are those black helicopters above your house?

 

[ConclamoLudus]

finally fair and balanced media!

 

[Bite]

Thanks -- somewhere b/w Al Jazeera and Fox News is the truth (maybe)

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: apoppin
I wonder how long this stays "up"?

It looks like they found a new host . . . for their "temporary site" . . . think the Pentagon will hack this one?

oooohhh, boogy, boogy, boogy... are those black helicopters above your house?

Choppers over the house every day . . . I am pretty near a marine base.

And most of you wouldn't know sarcasm if it bit you on the butt.

Site's back up:


Iraqi president appears in public walkabout

In what may be a show of defiance aimed at silencing critics, Iraqi President Saddam Hussein appeared on Iraqi television on Friday visiting a residential area in Baghdad.



In the first footage since the start of the war, two weeks ago, to show the Iraqi leader in public, President Hussein was shown being mobbed by cheering, chanting Iraqis in the streets of Baghdad?s al-Mansour neighbourhood.



Hussein appeared in olive green military garb on the main square of the residential area, flanked by just a few bodyguards but packing a firearm in a holster.



The footage, which showed a scene in daylight, was broadcast at about 9:20 pm (1730 GMT).



?It was a courageous step by Saddam since he was not heavily guarded,? Moustapha Maher, retired Egyptian general told Al Jazeera. ?It also looks like it was not pre-arranged or else we would have seen a much bigger crowd. But the move will raise the morale of the Iraqi people especially at this time with reports of American troops near the city.?



The US Central Command in Doha dismissed the televised scenes as ?a pretty bad performance? that would have no impact on the war.



?Our campaign is much larger than any one single personality,? Jim Wilkinson, CENTCOM spokesman said.



The White House also said victory in Iraq did not depend on finding Saddam. "I can also tell you in the bigger scheme of things it really doesn't matter, because whether it is him or whether it isn't him, the regime's days are numbered and are coming to an end," the White House said.



Smiles
Smiling broadly, the Iraqi leader accepted several kisses of his hand from the jubilant crowd, which chanted "With our blood and our souls, we shall redeem you" and "Bush, Bush, listen well, we all love Saddam Hussein."



Some kissed him on his cheeks and hands and he held up a small child.



There was no way of verifying when the film was made. But the footage showed Saddam walking amid bomb-damaged buildings with smoke seen from oil fires burning in the distance.



Taken in conjunction with further, time-specific comments President Hussein made on Iraqi television on Friday about specific incidents that have occurred over the course of the war, it appears to dispel rumours he has been injured or killed on the first night of the war.



It is not clear when or where the broadcast was recorded but Hussein referred to US military gains around the capital and other cities and admitted invading forces had "by-passed Iraq's defensive lines."



?The enemy is overtaking our valiant defences around Baghdad just like it did around other cities and they (enemy) are avoiding clashes?,? Saddam said in his address. ?They are deploying here and there, just like we expected, and these deployments are normally thin and we can confront them with the weapons available, and you recall the Iraqi peasant that downed an Apache with his rifle.?





The BBC quoted US intelligence officials saying that Hussein?s reference to the Apache helicopter suggested that the broadcast was made after the air strike which targeted him and his sons.



Control
Saddam has a number of doubles. The clip was shown on a day when US troops said they had taken control of Saddam International Airport, just 20 km (12 miles) southwest of the capital.



?Saddam?s repeated calls to confront and resist invading forces in his speech indicates that there is some kind of disintegration among the ranks of the Iraqi forces,? General Mohammed Ali Bilal, commander of Egypt?s forces during the 1991 Gulf War told Al Jazeera. ?Therefore, such a speech was necessary to urge the Iraqi people to defend their capital.?



Since the start of the war, Iraqi state television has often shown footage of what is says is Saddam, usually chairing meetings. His last known public appearance was in January 2001.



The US Defence Department said the recent footage of Saddam indicates that the Iraqi leader does not have effective control of the military.



"We find it interesting that Saddam Hussein, if he is alive, feels a need to walk in the streets to prove that," said Major General Stanley McChrystal, vice director of operations of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.



Television has been a key instrument used by the regime to control the populace, according to McChrystal. "We intend to limit their ability to use those mechanisms to control the population.?



The use of mobile vans as well as fixed installations have made it difficult to take out, however. "Sometimes its on, sometimes it is off," Pentagon spokeswoman Victoria Clarke said. --- Al Jazeera

:Q