Looking to mod a car. What do you guys think about this combo?

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JackBurton

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Alright guys, I'm looking to get two things right off the bat and was wondering what you thought of this combo.

This + This is what I was looking at.

I LOVE the 350 (no convertible), so that is a must. But what have you heard about APS systems (twin turbo)? Also, any other mods I can add to the car? Braking, suspension, exhaust?

Things I DON'T want:
1. No loud as muffler. I want it as quiet as possible.
2. No rice. I want it to look as stock as possible.

The Goal? A superfast 350.
 
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JackBurton

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Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
The VQ can't handle much horsepower (400rwhp)
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Let me also add, I'm not a gear head. I can do some small things, but installing the APS is WAY out of my league. I'm going to let someone else install it for me. That being said, what the hell is the VQ? :(
 
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Actaeon

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Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
The VQ can't handle much horsepower (400rwhp)
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Let me also add, I'm not a gear head. I can do some small things, but installing the APS is WAY out of my league. I'm going to let someone else install it for me. That being said, what the hell is the VQ? :(
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VQ35 = The 3.5L V6 Nissan uses in about every car.
 
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TechnoKid

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I'd work on suspension and brakes and overall handling first rather than most hp with add on things like turbos or superchargers etc.

The 350Z can be plenty quick on race courses with the right driver, and an appropiately setup car for that particular track.

So, imo, spend the money you'd spend on that turbo (plus all the tuning/time to get it working best) on a high-performance driving/racing school, and better tires/wheels/brakes/suspesion and you'll be gold. Skip Barber has some good classes as does Boundart(sp) racing.
 
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PowerMac4Ever

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Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
The VQ can't handle much horsepower (400rwhp)
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Let me also add, I'm not a gear head. I can do some small things, but installing the APS is WAY out of my league. I'm going to let someone else install it for me. That being said, what the hell is the VQ? :(
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Sorry, the VQ35 is the engine in the Z. It's a high compression engine (good for natural aspiration, bad for boost) and apparantly the internals (rods, pistons) are pretty weak.

This project is going to be very expensive if you have someone else install it. I would consider buying a Lancer Evolution or an STI because getting power is so much cheaper.
 
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JackBurton

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Jul 18, 2000
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Originally posted by: Actaeon
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
The VQ can't handle much horsepower (400rwhp)
Click to expand...
Let me also add, I'm not a gear head. I can do some small things, but installing the APS is WAY out of my league. I'm going to let someone else install it for me. That being said, what the hell is the VQ? :(
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VQ35 = The 3.5L V6 Nissan uses in about every car.
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Hmmm, I've heard of some people dropping in super chargers and getting 400+ hp out of their 350s. Is the engine going to blow up on them with that much hp?

Also, the APS system I'm looking at is specifically designed for the 350.
 
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JackBurton

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Jul 18, 2000
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Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
The VQ can't handle much horsepower (400rwhp)
Click to expand...
Let me also add, I'm not a gear head. I can do some small things, but installing the APS is WAY out of my league. I'm going to let someone else install it for me. That being said, what the hell is the VQ? :(
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Sorry, the VQ35 is the engine in the Z. It's a high compression engine (good for natural aspiration, bad for boost) and apparantly the internals (rods, pistons) are pretty weak.

This project is going to be very expensive if you have someone else install it. I would consider buying a Lancer Evolution or an STI because getting power is so much cheaper.
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Good comments guys, keep em coming.

TechnoKid, I plan on getting wheels, braking, suspension and exhaust, but the big money was in the turbo kit. The other suff is pretty cheap in comparison.

 
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TechnoKid

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Originally posted by: JackBurton


TechnoKid, I plan on getting wheels, braking, suspension and exhaust, but the big money was in the turbo kit. The other stuff is pretty cheap in comparison.
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(emphasis mine)....thats exactly my point. Brakes, suspension are cheaper, well can be cheaper overall than a turbo kit and all the tuning that goes along with it. It's easier (and safer) to sharpen your ability to handle your car and your car to handle you than to deal with that and at the same time learning to tame "400hp". Learn your car first as is, then add more power, imo.

Unless you aren't really into track racing and really only care about coolness factor and are doing this for show and for drag racing.
 
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b0mbrman

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Originally posted by: TechnoKid
Originally posted by: JackBurton


TechnoKid, I plan on getting wheels, braking, suspension and exhaust, but the big money was in the turbo kit. The other stuff is pretty cheap in comparison.
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(emphasis mine)....thats exactly my point. Brakes, suspension are cheaper, well can be cheaper overall than a turbo kit and all the tuning that goes along with it. It's easier (and safer) to sharpen your ability to handle your car and your car to handle you than to deal with that and at the same time learning to tame "400hp". Learn your car first as is, then add more power, imo.

Unless you aren't really into track racing and really only care about coolness factor and are doing this for show and for drag racing.
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...yup. And if that's the case, you would be better off starting with American muscle rather than the 350z.
 
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Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
The VQ can't handle much horsepower (400rwhp)
Click to expand...
Let me also add, I'm not a gear head. I can do some small things, but installing the APS is WAY out of my league. I'm going to let someone else install it for me. That being said, what the hell is the VQ? :(
Click to expand...
Sorry, the VQ35 is the engine in the Z. It's a high compression engine (good for natural aspiration, bad for boost) and apparantly the internals (rods, pistons) are pretty weak.

This project is going to be very expensive if you have someone else install it. I would consider buying a Lancer Evolution or an STI because getting power is so much cheaper.
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A good turbo kit will still yield mid 300's WHP. Greddy & Jim Wolf come to mine for turbos. I know the Greddy kit runs about 6 psi.
 
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Kishan

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Originally posted by: TechnoKid
Originally posted by: JackBurton


TechnoKid, I plan on getting wheels, braking, suspension and exhaust, but the big money was in the turbo kit. The other stuff is pretty cheap in comparison.
Click to expand...

(emphasis mine)....thats exactly my point. Brakes, suspension are cheaper, well can be cheaper overall than a turbo kit and all the tuning that goes along with it. It's easier (and safer) to sharpen your ability to handle your car and your car to handle you than to deal with that and at the same time learning to tame "400hp". Learn your car first as is, then add more power, imo.

Unless you aren't really into track racing and really only care about coolness factor and are doing this for show and for drag racing.
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it sounds like the OP just wants to have fast acceleration in typical situations.
 

I LOVE the 350 (no convertible), so that is a must. But what have you heard about APS systems (twin turbo)? Also, any other mods I can add to the car? Braking, suspension, exhaust?
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You need to build up everything to turbocharge a car that was not designed to be put on boost.
 
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xXped0thugXx

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As mentioned above the VQ isnt a real stable building block for boost. Naturally aspirated it handles pretty decently. I wish the new Se-R's were made with the SR block instead, those engines are boost whores. With that being said, the internals of the VQ just cant take it. You cant just slap a turbo on an engine and be done with it. Camshafts, lifters, valves, pistons, then you have to worry about cooling, oil lines, fuel management is huge. All these things need to be upgraded and stable before even throwing some boost on a car. Also you were talking about no loud exhaust, with that much are circulating in the system your going to need bigger piping coming directly off the headers... usually 3 inch pipe all the way back is sufficient. (IIRC) .

In my opinion , start off with something that is already used to a turbo... someone mentioned an STI or EVO or something of that sort. Beef up the internals and throw a bigger housing on there and you have a much easier project.

Bottom line is some cars just werent made to be turbo'ed without a lot of work done.
 
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Actaeon

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Get a GTO and leave it stock. You still have a warranty, and its a sweeet car. Should be lots of potential from the block as well. The aftermarket on the 2004s should be huge (LS1 is a very popular engine), and the 2005 will definatly get some parts soon as it will share the same engine as the C6 Corvette. The 2005s might be a little bit more than the 350z, but if you can find a 2004 for super cheap, you should hop on it.

Its a coupe, looks great, and will probally put out more power than that 350z + Turbo. Plus, it should be more reliable than a boosted 350z. You also don't get that boy-racer look.
 
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GMElias

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wow....the car is fast enough already? Where are you going to live so that you can drive 150??? Montana? Anyway, gl...bump so we can get some car-mod-experts:)
-Elias
 
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