Looking to migrate to Canada, any Canadians wanna plug their city?

Topher

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My wife and I are filling out the Permanent Residency paperwork. We're also applying for jobs to speed the process. (Gives extra points when applying for PR). We're both PhD's looking for University jobs (or at least, I'll be done real soon).

Any Canadians wanna plug your area? Tell me the good and bad.

Oh Yeah, I grew up in Pennsylvania aand had summer vacations to Canada (Ontario, Quebec and Maritime Provinces) about 8 times, so I'm familiar only as a tourist. Thanks guys.

Also, any tips on the PR application process would help, anyone know how long it takes?
 

chansen

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My wife is at the University of Toronto. The largest university in Canada. If you like big cities, it may be a good choice. We both graduated from McMaster University in Hamilton, just an hour away. Hamilton ain't as nice a town in general, but the Westdale area where the school is situated is very quaint.

Really, though, you should tell us what faculty you would be applying to. Of course, not all schools have a complete list of university faculties.

Regards,
Craig
 

dawks

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Calgary Alberta rocks :)

Its home to TA's main pproxy :) GET CRACKIN! :p

Lumberjacks? Theres probabaly more in the United States.. Is there something wrong with Canadian lumberjacks?
 

Topher

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I'll be applying to the Music Faculty, the wife will be in Vet Science or Nutrition (or seomthing related). She actually knows people from Guelph University that she met years ago at a Poultry Science Conference. I've found a couple of jobs available at York University that I'm qualified for. But they involve a quick move (positions start July 31st) so I'll have to finish my PhD while I'm there.
 

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There is a Music Faculty at The University Of Ottawa. Dunno about Carleton University, Saint Paul is strictly about theology. Medicine is very highly rated here but I don't know about veterinary medicine. Ottawa is the right size at 1 million people, about 1/3 French, very multiethnic. Very pretty and clean.

Virtual Ottawa.

The Musical Box (Genesis)
 

Talon

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Denil

Hasn't there been some kind of contract trouble at York lately?
 

eakers

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guelph is a really nice city with a really nice university.
though the profs arent union i know there are openings in some of the sciences i think
guelph is amazing, its hard to find houses cuz they like trees there so they dont over develope it.

oh guelph is has a huge vet college.

*kat. <-- says run from cambridge run!
 

yllus

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York University's labour problems, with regards to teacher's assistants (grad students), was resolved two weeks ago. The main reason for the strike was the university trying to get out of a perk that makes being a TA at York quite a bit more lucrative than at any other Ontario university.

I'm a Toronto resident myself and love the place. It's the consummate big city, with a lot of small-town heart. But if I had a chance, I'd move to Vancouver. Incredible city and surroundings...you could go water-skiing in the morning, head northwards for rock climbing in the afternoon and if you had any energy left, go club downtown at night. Still love my hometown, though. :)

-- Edit --

Okay, the hot water in the shower still hasn't built up enough yet, time to add some more info...Toronto is shooting for the 2008 Summer Olympics and personally I think we're a shoo-in. If that happens (we'll know in six months), expect this place to get even more lively, very quickly.

There's a lot of choices between universities in the Greater Toronto Area and the surrounding region. Great inner city transit system for the first lean years without a car, good food (we just recently adopted a city-wide mandatory restaurant rating system) and people of every size, shape and colour in the city - very ethnically diverse, though that's true about Canada as a whole but Toronto in particular. Rental and housing costs are second-highest in the country next to Vancouver, last I checked. Check out the excellent city website at toronto.com for any info on that end, I think. :)

I shall end this post with words from a fairly infamous e-mail about Ontario universities:

A severe storm rumbled through Guelph last week and destroyed the entire town:
$10 worth of damage was reported.


and...

Why do they sell so many button-fly jeans in Guelph?
Because the sheep can hear the zippers a mile away.


;)
 

Topher

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Great, another olympic city! I moved to Sydney back in 1999, so I'd love the opportunity to see the olympics again!
 

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Bishops University...Lennoxville Que.
Just outside of Sherbrooke and about 60 miles east of Montreal in the Beautiful Eastern Townships.

Country Life ....Roxy Music
 

chansen

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Guelph is THE school in Canada for vets. If your wife goes there, you are literally in university central in Canada. You could easily situate yourself within commuting distance to:

University of Waterloo (very close)
Sir Wilfred Laurier University (very close, and an excellent music program)
McMaster University (Hamilton)
Brock University (St. Catherines - maybe too far)
York University (northern Toronto)
U of T (suggest you take GO train from Milton, Ontario - nice town)
University of Western Ontario (London - maybe too far)

Hope this can be of some help.

Regards,
Craig
 

Topher

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Wow Craig! Thanks! Gives me a few more Universities to look into. How's the housing situation in the greater Toronto area? I lived just outside of Washington D.C. for 2.5 years and was in for a real shock when I moved to Sydney. Units are small, expensive, and very poorly built!
 

SSP

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I don't know much about Universities, cause I'm still in High school. But I wana give my vote to Toronto being the best place to live IMO. :D

I agree with everything 0sully said. :) The best part is that from where I live, I can leech off my parents and still go to York or U of T (not really leeching, just a place to sleep ;)). :D

BTW, Houses are obviously more expensive in the GTA area then outside. My dad's going to buy a new house, probably for 150 to 200K. My friends parents bough a new house from those new housing development areas for 200K, Very nicely build.

 

chansen

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Well, then, they must have got the units from us. But housing costs decrease as you move away from Toronto. I'm not exactly up on my area real estate, but I believe Guelph and Milton are still reasonable, but Milton is a good hour commute from Toronto by train. Guelph is further away and has no such service.

Sorry, getting tired... Will fill in more info tomorrow.

Regards,
Craig
 

GL

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I'm from Toronto. This is the most kickass city in terms of people and things to do. Vancouver is a beautiful city but it just doesn't match the night life that Toronto has (or so my party crazy friends/family members say). You're also only a few hours drive away from Ottawa, Quebec and Upstate NY, whereas if you're in Vancouver you're kind of stuck there or heading down into Washington.

I'm also a student at the U of T. Great university with an even greater set of campuses (St. George which is downtown, Scarborough which is in the east suburbs, and Mississauga which is out in the west suburbs).

One word of warning. The province has been forcing the city to pickup the tab for a lot of services, and as such taxes are supposed to go up 77% here in 5 years (or so the morning paper today reported).

Toronto is also the most multicultural city in the world (in terms of the ratio of &quot;minorities&quot; to white people). I put &quot;minorities&quot; in quotations because the official numbers put all &quot;minorities&quot; combined at a great number than white people. Let's put it this way. My family isn't exactly uncommon but we have a mix of Asian, European and Black members in the immediate family.

As far as night life goes it's pretty good. If you want coffee shops we've got coffee shops, restaurants...we have thousands, clubs galore, megaplex movie theatres up the ying yang and a lot of athletic centres too if you're into that sort of thing.

We also have the best public transit system in North America (buses, subway, monorail, streetcars) so it's actually possible (and preferable) not to own a car. If you're into the environment, we've got a huge recycling program. Smog is getting to be a problem in the summer though (but moreso in the surrounding immediate suburbs I find).

A lot of Americans come up to Toronto...tons of celebrities. We leave them alone which is why they like us. Most Torontonians are extremely quiet so we might seem rude to strangers but it's just us being timid.

We've got a mayor with an approval rating pushing 90%...not because he's smart but because he fights for the city like there's no tomorrow. Our provincial government is abysmal, but that's OK because they're not going to win the next election. Our federal government seems to be in place by default.

As far as jobs go, they're plentiful. U of T is going to be hiring a ton of profs because here in Ontario we have a 5 year high school system (up to gr. 13 or what is known as OAC - a university preparation year). But that 5 year system is being scrapped in favour of a more common 4 year high school system so that means there will be double enrollment I think in 2002. Whatever you do though, don't take a job in the suburban campuses - they suck (not academically but in terms of coolness;) - I know because I attend classes at one of those campuses).

Cost of living is damn high, but if you're a prof you should be fine (i.e. middle class). I suggest moving as close to the inner city as possible although it'll be expensive. If worst comes to worst, move to a suburb with good access to the TTC as that'll make your commutes much better (if you're going to work at U of T, it has its own subway station).

Whatever you do, come up here and stay for a while (right now in the winter would be a good time so you know what it will be like to go a few days without seeing the sun...that can be a problem!). If you come in the summer the weather is usually great but that's only half the story (or less than half if we get an early winter;)).

Sources of info:
U of T website
The Toronto Star Newspaper
Toronto.com Things To Do
TTC (Toronto Transit Commission)

-GL
 

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Queens University in Kingston, Ontario is the best University in Canada. I am pretty sure they will be hiring too because many of the professors are retiring.

I lived in kingston for about 5 years until I moved to Toronto. It is a wonderful city. Not too big and not too small.
 

yllus

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Finished up in the shower. :D In the case of hiring new professors and ass't professors in the Toronto region - they're going nuts around here. Queen's, for one, adopted a policy of hire-before-need. They'll hire you as much as a year or two ahead of time and ease you into a regular workflow. With many of our senior educators retiring and not much in the way of younger replacements on the way anytime soon, you can bet you'll find something somewhere pretty quick. And as chansen mentioned, this is university central in Canada. :)

In essence, this is the perfect time to get a handhold in the education biz in these parts. Best of luck to ya.

GL: If I was to translate your sig from what looks like hex, would I get something worth my trouble? I really oughta get around to trying that some day. :)
 

Handle

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If you're looking for a nice, growing city, another plug for Calgary. About the University of Calgary though... hmmm... despite Alberta's riches, they are probably underfunded, although that's changing. And if you were looking to teach engineering or computer science, they are building new buildings for them and getting tonnes of new infrastructure.

Alberta is probably also the most American-like province in terms of taxes and social policy (at least, according to Liberal slander... nah, I won't go there :). But seriously, we've got a great growing economy here in Calgary, with reasonable house prices. I could go on and on, but don't have much time.
 

Michael

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I grew up in and still love Montreal. Both Mcgill and Concordia University (I went to both) are good.

Michael