Originally posted by: Saga
Originally posted by: RedRooster
You're saying there's no good RPGs on 360? I think right now there's a shatload of them, all those big honkin 100 hour JRPGs too. You should do more research. I can't get to the sites from work with the lists, but I love RPGs too, and if I got them all right now I wouldn't get them done before XBox 3 came out. There's that many.
To switch over to PS3 for one genre of game is pretty expensive, although I'm considering one just for a good baseball game, so us gamers are pretty wierd and dumb with our money in general.
Such as? Before I start the following allow me to state I am extremely critical of modern games that flash pretty graphics at braindead people to keep them amused. I don't care much about cutscenes or state of the art models. My criteria is as follows:
1) STORY - story, story, story, story. Christ I probably couldn't say this enough to my point to the severity I want to. I want to go into a game wondering about the characters, being interested with their interactions, progression, and development, and ultimately have an ending that is both exciting and something I did NOT see coming. NONE of the games I am about to list fit these criteria, yet SO many PS2 games did. Hell, most of the games for the 360 allow you to gather enough about the ending from either the title or the first few hours of gameplay..
2) Replayability. Let me elaborate upon this because it's important you understand that I do NOT mean some save game+ bullshit, I mean I want a game that I found so interesting that a few months down the line I'd be willing to start over from scratch knowing full well I would enjoy it. Chrono Trigger, Saga Frontier, Desega, almost all Final Fantasy games sans 8, 9, and 10-2 (and of course the online MMORPG) gave me this. Hell, to this very day I still find cause every now and then to load up Chrono Trigger and start a brand new NON new game+ scratch game just to enjoy the story. I want to be amazed again in a way only these titles can.
3) Depth/duration. 16 hours into Infinite Undiscovery when I was staring at the ending credits - after spending two days playing a game I had just spent fucking $60 for - my jaw dropped in absolute amazement and I was expecting the game to continue at any second like this was all some gigantic joke. Unfortunately it wasn't. While this is definately an extreme case, I do not expect all games to be like FFX where I can spend a legit 300 hours filling out the sphere grid and never get bored doing it, but jesus christ at the very least give me an 80 hour game if I'm paying $60 for it!
With that said, here are my more recent experiences to memory with the 360 that have left me extremely bitter.
Blue Dragon: Horrible rip of DBZ graphical styling, no character is really unique, they can all be the same thing. Story felt like it was written by a 15 year old until the last two hours of the game. Huge waste of my time that kept me AFK playing through fights while reading shit online more than anything, especially through the load times.
Eternal Sonata: Should not even be classified as an RPG. Could not keep playing past the 4 hour mark.
Infinite Undiscovery: Infinite Garbage. It's like they tried to turn Gods of War into a RPG and decided it needed a storyline similar to fucking Harbinger ala PS1. Did you ever play Harbinger? It was bad. And WAY too short. This game gets the award of the year for how to effectively TOTALLY fuck a player over on gearing large groups of characters (or, in this games case, NOT gearing them..)
Lost Odyssey: Kept me mildy interested for approximately 3 days before I saw the plot and inevitable ending flashing before my face like a gigantic neon sign not even halfway through the game. Finished it but it left a sour taste in my mouth. One of the two games I don't regret buying, but on that note were I to go back in time I STILL wouldn't buy it again.
Tales of Vesperia: The ONLY game I have no complaints about. Outside of Lost Odyssey this is the only game I do not regret buying, and that I find exciting enough and true enough to the original genre to play more than once.
Outside of that, what am I missing? I'm trying to be optimistic here but I'm only interested in jrpg style RPG's, as I consider games like Mass Effect, Oblivion and the like to be PC specific games and not truly the type of RPG I enjoy. If I've left something out, thats fine.. but some 10 games total to a system thats been out since.. what, 2005, is NOT a library of games. The PS2 had something like 250 RPG titles between the US and Japan. Thats a staggering difference in numbers.
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