Looking for ps with 30a on the 12v rail...

4fingerwu1

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Well the recomendation for my video card is 30 amps on a 12 v rail
Now can this be the combined voltage on the 12v rails and if not looking for some recomendations with voltage this high on the 12v
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Ric
 

jkresh

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what parts are in your system? What is your budget? The more info you list the easier it will be to make a recomendation
 

4fingerwu1

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Well It is to power a radeon x1950xt and based on the manufacturers recomendation
I will spend whatever I need to but I want to spend as little as I need to so I want the cheapest power supply that will meet my needs
 

4fingerwu1

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Great Link thank you for that
What I do not understand however is how a power supply with 4 separate 12v rails each supplying 18a of power can supply a video card that is recomended to have 30 a on the 12v rail?
How can these separate rails add up?
 

4fingerwu1

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example
+3.3V@24A, +5V@30A, +12V1@18A, +12V2@18A, +12V3@18A, +12V4@18A, -12V@0.5A, +5VSB@3.0A
 

4fingerwu1

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What exactly does a rail refer to ?
Is it the acuall wire that is comes out of the power supply so for example does a power supply with 4 12v rails have 4 different wires extending from it ?
 

Mark R

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Originally posted by: 4fingerwu1
What exactly does a rail refer to ?
Is it the acuall wire that is comes out of the power supply so for example does a power supply with 4 12v rails have 4 different wires extending from it ?

It means groups of wires.

E.g. if you have a dual-rail 12 V PSU, with 5 wires coming out - 3 might be from 1 rail and 2 from the other.

The individual 'rails' have independent overload protection (if you overload any one of them, the PSU should shutdown). They may, or may not, be independently voltage regulated.

The idea of having multiple 'rails' is a safety feature required by "underwriters' laboratories" who set basic safety standards for insurance purposes. Essentially, manufacturer's aren't supposed to leave exposed 12 V wires with more than 20A available where they can easily be touched by the user. At that sort of voltage and current, things could easily catch fire before the PSU shuts down.

Anyway, a 1950XT doesn't need anywhere near 30A. 15A is more like it. Even an entire system with a 1950 doesn't need 30 A.

However, by making absurdly high recommendations, ATI avoid people buying inferior PSUs which may not stand up to the load required (especially, if the PSU is badly installed, and poorly ventilated).

 

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I'm not a powersupply guy, but I think the term "rails" comes from the internal bus rods that provide power to the various output taps. I don't know if these are even still present in modern PSUs. Could be some surviving legacy term.
 

MTDEW

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E.g. if you have a dual-rail 12 V PSU, with 5 wires coming out - 3 might be from 1 rail and 2 from the other.
Yep, thats my understanding too.
But what always bothered me was, how the heck are you supposed to know which sets of wires are on which rails so you can try to connect everything as evenly as possible on seperate rails?