wow way to be a complete shithead about it. maybe you should get some counceling. who the fuck said i was on a budget. all i asked was if these board were any good. Im sure ill be banned but i could care less if i got to deal with assclown such as yourself
You said yourself you're on a budget, which I know because you're crossposting everywhere. i've been helping you through this entire ordeal. i know your friend only gave you $330 and i know what you're trying to squeeze in with it. you've taken my advice and run in the opposite direction several times, and now you're crossposting in motherboards asking the same stupid shit. can you buy the cheapest possible AM3 motherboard and expect to not have any problems? no. the best you can do is buy a board that has a strong community and has demonstrated relatively few QA issues.
you are obviously new to this, and i'm trying to make it clear that buying a board with no satisfied customers is a risky waste of your friend's time and money, and the only reason i am STILL helping you is because your friend put his faith and money into a guy who buys products without doing any research on them. i'm not guaranteeing either way - whether the E51 or 780L would be defective or not, but you need to realize the risk inherent with cutting corners and buying the cheapest version of everything, especially for a friend.
never have i said to rely on newegg reviews for anything, but there are obvious red flags and i'm sorry if they weren't written in braille for you. If there are only a handful of reviews, it means newegg hasn't sold as many of these units compared to a more popular one. Any issues that may come up, you're on your own with. Hope you like working on your friend's machine. At least with a proven product that is established in the community, if there are any issues, you are aware of them before they happen (that is, if you actually research the stuff you buy). If you want to buy a product with no informative reviews at all, hope you have a fun experiment.
Like I said, there are much more reliable boards in your general price range, if you would just step it up. You can either spend the extra money for a quality product now, or spend more money down the road with return shipping and hassle. ASUS and Gigabyte make proven, reliable boards that cost $10 more than the MSI E51. If your budget is suddenly more flexible than you originally indicated, you need to do your friend solid with his money and get him a gigabyte board. Even Asrock would be better than the 780L or E51. Don't get attitude with me because you can't do your own research and then can't find anyone with enough experience to tell you what you want to hear. No one on these forums could recommend either of those motherboards with what information is available. quality costs money. in this case it costs $10 more than that piece of shit MSI board. After shipping the MSI board is $87. The gigabyte is $97 after shippping and the ASUS EVO is $99 with FREE shipping. remember this is your friend's machine.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128397
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157168
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131398
for the record, tomshardware is a biased, corrupt site. they can, however, tell the difference between a motherboard that starts up and a motherboard that won't. web publications are good ways to get a feel for which features are common to the chipset and which knick-knacks are added by the board maker, but they do not discuss failure rates or reliability. To approximate that, you have to look at the shoppers.
Newegg reviews, en masse, are quite helpful at catching a glimpse of how the economy of scale affects the reliability of the product. I'm sure there are E51s in the wild that are working fine, but it isn't documented. I'm also sure that there are people having problems with the analog audio on cheap 785G boards, but that also is not well documented. How can I estimate the percentage of bad apples? You can't. There isn't enough data for you to go on. The best you can do is buy a board that sold a lot of units because the size of the community is larger and more information will come from it. When you see that 81% of the 265 reviewers were satisfied with the ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO and only ~10% were DOA, you should feel relatively safe buying that. Safer indeed than you would buying a 780L with 2 horrible reviews out of 4. Of course I think the gigabyte GA-MA785GMT-UD2H is the safest bet.
A newegg review by itself means nothing, but hundreds upon hundreds of reviews bear statistical significance (since they aren't all lying) if a trend is exhibited. The only thing you HAVE to do is choose whether you will heed the signs or ignore them. It's only $10. i figured special olympics jokes were fair game now that obama uses them.
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