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Looking for good CISCO DSL router

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phenderson

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Does anyone out there have a suggesting for a good CISCO DSL router perferrably a SOHO router that does PPOA or PPOE???

Does anyone have any information on:
Cisco 1417 ADSL
 
I can't imagine a "bad" Cisco router. Just get the one that has the specs you need like firewall features, multiple LAN IPs, whatever (if any DSL routers have that level of capability). I'm sure they all support PPPoE, and I assume that PPPoA is over ATM, which isn't any different since all DSL lines are ATM.
 
First of all, you need to know what signalling (CAP, DMT, etc.) your LEC (CLEC/ILEC) is using, or it electrically won't talk.

Why a Cisco? If you just want the name, get a 678. It's discontinued and dead-end, but it's available easily and cheaply used and even new because Qwest uses them as CPE. From what I've heard, they're supposed to work pretty well. If you want to run Real IOS, then you need to be a lot more picky - the 678 and many low-end Cisco boxes run other firmware that's had an IOS-like user interface grafted in. The 1400 seems to be the lowest-end platform that runs Real IOS. Even then, though, you need to get up to the 2600/3600 platforms before you can get a reasonably complete IOS feature set.
 
Originally posted by: cmetz
First of all, you need to know what signalling (CAP, DMT, etc.) your LEC (CLEC/ILEC) is using, or it electrically won't talk.

Why a Cisco? If you just want the name, get a 678. It's discontinued and dead-end, but it's available easily and cheaply used and even new because Qwest uses them as CPE. From what I've heard, they're supposed to work pretty well. If you want to run Real IOS, then you need to be a lot more picky - the 678 and many low-end Cisco boxes run other firmware that's had an IOS-like user interface grafted in. The 1400 seems to be the lowest-end platform that runs Real IOS. Even then, though, you need to get up to the 2600/3600 platforms before you can get a reasonably complete IOS feature set.
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I use cisco's here at work, I love the ios... that is what it is all about. Plus it will help me become even more familiar with CISCO IOS by using it at home.
My DSL provider is Bellsouth which uses an ATM network with CAP signaling. So one in the buy\sell\trade forum, just offered me 2501 router....

I am looking for either a dedicated DSL router or a router that is compatible with an ATM\PPOA\PPOE modem. IE the dedicated DSL router has to have a rj-ll connection and be compatiblie with ATM\PPOA\PPOE (having a built in DSL modem) or the router has to have the option of logging into an ATM\PPOA\PPOE network.

Will the 2501 do this???
Will the 1417 do this???

The 678 seems to be just a modem, and not a router... I am looking for a router with port management\nat and all of the other features of a Cisco Pix or Router... Is there one out there for home users???
 
You could use the 2501 easy enough behind a capable DSL modem, I actually have one of the newer units from Covad that does routing/NAT/Switching and a lot of other stuff, but I just turned it all off, gave it a static IP and did the PPPoE on it.

Then behind that I have my PIX501 on a static IP and the DSL modem is the gateway for it. It works well.

One thing that would be really cool with the 2501 (if it's modular, I can't remember which ones are and which ones aren't, I thought all 25xx and up were...) would be to get the DSL interface card for it. The only problem is that last I checked they were hard to find and still $600-800, but they will come down eventually. I guess there would still be an issue if you coulnd't do PPPoE on a 2501, but that's for someone better with the different models than me to tackle. 🙂

 
Originally posted by: MysticLlama
You could use the 2501 easy enough behind a capable DSL modem, I actually have one of the newer units from Covad that does routing/NAT/Switching and a lot of other stuff, but I just turned it all off, gave it a static IP and did the PPPoE on it.

Then behind that I have my PIX501 on a static IP and the DSL modem is the gateway for it. It works well.

One thing that would be really cool with the 2501 (if it's modular, I can't remember which ones are and which ones aren't, I thought all 25xx and up were...) would be to get the DSL interface card for it. The only problem is that last I checked they were hard to find and still $600-800, but they will come down eventually. I guess there would still be an issue if you coulnd't do PPPoE on a 2501, but that's for someone better with the different models than me to tackle. 🙂
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So Lama, How did you set it all up??? How did you get the 2501 to do PPOE authentication. I do not know if the unit is modular or not, he said that it does have 2 RJ-45 ports.

DUDE you are extremely blessed to have a pix 501, those things are between $500-800.00 on the auctions and on pricewatch.

I will try to get some more info about this 2501 that the dude wants to trade to me.
 
DUDE you are extremely blessed to have a pix 501, those things are between $500-800.00 on the auctions and on pricewatch.
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Wow, even CDW has them for 460 and you can get them much cheaper than that.

http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.asp?EDC=329744

You could probably get a 2501 to do it but a 2501 can barely more 1 Mbs of traffic and even less if it is natting - they're dead 10 year old technology. On top of that you'd have to support 12.2 code for PPPoe.

The 800 series seem to be about 600 bucks on CDW.

good luck - i've got 8 2500s at home for a lab and they're pretty slow compared to todays routers. I would think a linksys SOHO router would easy outperform a 2500
 
Well, if you wanted to play with Cisco in general, and not particularly the routers, you could do the PIX thing.

I just set up another one recently that was attached to a Fuji Speedstream DSL Bridge (no brains at all, no web interface, no nothing) and the PIX can do everything, PPPoE, etc.

They even have the 3DES ones at newegg now, so I'm sure more people will start picking them up.

The reason I have one at home is because I have a 515 at work, and I'm learning the VPN stuff on mine so I can make a VPN WAN out of my stores instead of relying on the modem polling, which isn't very reliable for us right now. Also, you can get the regular DES (not 3DES) one a little bit cheaper too.

I have the 515 at the office, a 501 at home, a 501 for a tunnel to the webservers, and a 501 at a remote devs place in Missouri (I'm in Seattle).

Eventually I'd like all of the corporate officers, etc. to have them at their homes instead of just using the cable modems with their laptops and no protection, but I'm chipping away at it.

I'd say in your situation, do the 800 series thing, or try to find a 1700 series. You probably don't need the modular portions of the newer ones, unless you were going for the DSL card and the all in one solution, but that's not likely to be very cost effective.
 
Originally posted by: cmetz
phenderson, and thus begins your education about Cisco products 😉
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LOL! True, True.

"OH! You wanted to use this product for more than 10 users, eh? That'll be an extra 500 bucks!" "Oh, you want it to route at speeds greater than a few megabits?...that'll be an extra 5000 bucks"

 
Well if anyone has CISCO 5 user router or firewall that can be used with any type of ADSL modem, and you would like to let it go real cheap, LMK ASAP with a PM.
 
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