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[anelectricmind]

Hmmm, I still would have sprung for a 4690 but that will do. Better than any i3.

That would have stretched my budget... Remember : around 400$ CAD (in USD I would have bought the 4690)

So :
MSI Z97 PC Mate : 85$ CAD - 10$ MIR
Patriot Signature 2x4 DDR3-1600 : 63$ CAD
Intel Core i5-4590 : 245$ CAD.

Everything after taxes and shipping : 433$ CAD.

 

[Arachnotronic]

That would have stretched my budget... Remember : around 400$ CAD (in USD I would have bought the 4690)

So :
MSI Z97 PC Mate : 85$ CAD - 10$ MIR
Patriot Signature 2x4 DDR3-1600 : 63$ CAD
Intel Core i5-4590 : 245$ CAD.

Everything after taxes and shipping : 433$ CAD.

Looks solid. Enjoy!

 

[CHADBOGA]

That would have stretched my budget... Remember : around 400$ CAD (in USD I would have bought the 4690)

So :
MSI Z97 PC Mate : 85$ CAD - 10$ MIR
Patriot Signature 2x4 DDR3-1600 : 63$ CAD
Intel Core i5-4590 : 245$ CAD.

Everything after taxes and shipping : 433$ CAD.

I'm pleasantly surprised you went for the i5(a great decision in my view), as you seemed so intent with just going with an i3 and often people can't be talked around when they've made their minds up.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

That would have stretched my budget... Remember : around 400$ CAD (in USD I would have bought the 4690)

So :
MSI Z97 PC Mate : 85$ CAD - 10$ MIR
Patriot Signature 2x4 DDR3-1600 : 63$ CAD
Intel Core i5-4590 : 245$ CAD.

Everything after taxes and shipping : 433$ CAD.

This all makes sense. You have the power for "web-development" and even games.

I and my colleagues here probably fritter away extra money in search of "The Wrold's Fastest Indian."

Provided the motherboard is solid and without defect, that should give you a very nice computer. Generally I'd found that the budget-end motherboards have enough features to do that, and last just as long. They're just not very "over-clockable." So?!

I just finished replacing my brother's LGA-775 upstairs -- I probably mentioned it too much already in earlier posts. I'd acquired a (slightly used year-old, not abused) i5-3570K IB CPU for about $100 by my estimation as part of a parts bundle. I paid about $130 for an ASUS Z77-A motherboard, and I had the spare 2x4GB RAM kit -- probably worth about $50 or $60 at today's retail price. The boot disk is an 840 EVO 256GB I think I paid ~$110 for. So the guts of it cost me just over $400. Last-gen processor, probably not the lowest outlay to get the same benefits, but -- Bro is happy.

 

[anelectricmind]

I'm pleasantly surprised you went for the i5(a great decision in my view), as you seemed so intent with just going with an i3 and often people can't be talked around when they've made their minds up.

It was all about the money. Initially, as much as I wanted the i5, I couldn't see myself spending that amount. Found a few extra dollars, and well, I was pretty close to my budget.

 

[anelectricmind]

This all makes sense. You have the power for "web-development" and even games.

Provided the motherboard is solid and without defect, that should give you a very nice computer. Generally I'd found that the budget-end motherboards have enough features to do that, and last just as long. They're just not very "over-clockable." So?!

The motherboard was a gamble. I had MSI Mobo in the past and never had any problems Usually buy Asus or Gigabyte. It had all the requirements I was looking for (USB 3.0, alot of SATA ports, XF compatible - just in case). I was surprised to find a Z97 at that price, but I found a few positive reviews (good board, no bells and whistles most of them said)

 

[anelectricmind]

... now I just hope my old H50 will work with the screw hole of an LGA 1150

 

[Arachnotronic]

It was all about the money. Initially, as much as I wanted the i5, I couldn't see myself spending that amount. Found a few extra dollars, and well, I was pretty close to my budget.

I think you will thank yourself for this; the upfront cost of the i5 is higher, but you'll be able to use that machine for much longer.

 

[ClockHound]

High 5s on the i5 selection, anelectricmind.

And more importantly, the cats who run your outfit will be able to maintain their pride. They may not show their gratitude (that would spoil the mystique), but with your purchasing decision you've shown that their staff support the cat-given right to perform fur shedding, cat video watching, hairball generation/expulsion in/on or around high performance gear as the serious activity that it is.

 

[ehume]

Good choice. As for the H50, IIRC it's compatible with all 115x sockets.

 

[crashtech]

If the mounting holes are slotted, you might be OK. The holes on 1156/1155/1150 are about 4mm farther about, iirc. Maybe you have to pull the plastic bushings out of the block retaining ring and reverse them.

 

[anelectricmind]

High 5s on the i5 selection, anelectricmind.

And more importantly, the cats who run your outfit will be able to maintain their pride. They may not show their gratitude (that would spoil the mystique), but with your purchasing decision you've shown that their staff support the cat-given right to perform fur shedding, cat video watching, hairball generation/expulsion in/on or around high performance gear as the serious activity that it is.

:thumbsup:

 

[anelectricmind]

If the mounting holes are slotted, you might be OK. The holes on 1156/1155/1150 are about 4mm farther about, iirc. Maybe you have to pull the plastic bushings out of the block retaining ring and reverse them.

After comparing the original H50 installation manual (compatible 775, 1156 and 1366 ) and a recent H80 (compatible 1150 and 1156 amongst others), it appears that corsair uses the same backplate. And I can move the screw hole on the retention ring.

From my understanding, if the backplate is compatible with 1155 and 1156, it is also compatible with 1150.

 

[crashtech]

EDIT: I have deleted this because it may have contained inaccurate information. Seems I cannot trust my memory as much as I used to.

 

[anelectricmind]

That's right, LGA 775 had holes arranged in a 72mm square, and 1156, 1155, and 1150 have an 80mm square.

I thought 1156, 1155 and 1150 had 75mm square!?

 

[MrTeal]

I thought 1156, 1155 and 1150 had 75mm square!?

They do. LGA2011 is 80mm

 

[Gikaseixas]

anelectricmind fire up a few games when you have the beast up and running and lets us know the difference if any compared with your old Q6600. It always make for an interesting read.

You did well in going i5, great upgrade

 

[anelectricmind]

anelectricmind fire up a few games when you have the beast up and running and lets us know the difference if any compared with your old Q6600. It always make for an interesting read.

You did well in going i5, great upgrade

I sure will. Thanks for the support everyone.

I don't have alot of the current AAA games. But I have a few that will probably be interesting to see running on my new rig... Mirror's Edge, Mafia III, GTA IV, Max Payne 3 to name a few. I may have a recent NFS somewhere and a few Codemaster's racing games.

 

[sanjev]

I would say go for i5. All proc above i5 has turbo boost technology which will increase by it self when needed. i3 still considered low end.

 

[anelectricmind]

I would say go for i5. All proc above i5 has turbo boost technology which will increase by it self when needed. i3 still considered low end.

If you check a few posts back, I mentionned that I already made my choice : i5-4590.

Thanks for the recommandations.

 

[anelectricmind]

Well... for those who are still tuned in, here's a little update.

It took a while to receive all my parts (shopped on the West Coast, shipped to the East) and yesterday I finally had time to put everything together.

In the meantime, I ordered an extra 2 x 4 GB because they were on special, and... because I could. (Virtualization and RamDrive are always fun with a few extra GB of memory).

So I removed my old H50 from my motherboard and started to install it on my new motherboard... but... I noticed from the manual that the screw retention thingies were different for the Socket 775 than the Socket 1156... I always keep small parts and screws from all the computers and peripherals that I gathered over the years... but these screw retention thingies were nowhere to be found...

... So last night I found somewhere that had H50 mounting kit and that would not charge an arm and a leg to ship it and I am still waiting for it. (15$ CAD shipping from USA to Kanada for a water cooler mounting kit... you gotta be kidding me!)

I contemplated the idea of updating my H50 to an other water cooling solution, but found them a bit too expensive (70$ for a brand new H50). Wanted to go back to air with a Cooler Master EVO 212 but I don't thnk it fits in my Antec 902. And since I am not convinced to return to air... well... I bought the mounting kit instead.

So I'll let you know what will happens next...

 

[LTC8K6]

Why not just use the stock cooler if no overclocking is involved?

 

[anelectricmind]

Why not just use the stock cooler if no overclocking is involved?

I. Don't. Know.

I have heard that the stock cooler is noisy under load. I remember installing a stock cooler on a G3220 and what surprised how silent it was on idle. But I have never pushed that computer to full load.

And while I will not overclock, the i5-4590 can go up to 3.7 on Turbo mode.

 

[anelectricmind]

Just to had a bit of details, I use an Antec 902.

- Two 120mm intake fans in front.
- One 200mm outtake fan on top
- The H50 has two fans, both in pull-pull mode (outside to inside)

I once had a 120mm outtake fan on the side, when I ran two 4870 in crossfire, but removed it when I bought my 6870.

Of course, PSU is mounted at the bottom, so you also have that fan.

 

[Headfoot]

If you intend on keeping this CPU another 6 years, get the i5-4460 and get 4 real cores. Haswell i3s have really quite good hyperthreading. But the real cores are going to make a difference in CPU limited games going forward. 4 cores is better than 2 now and is going to be even better than 2 6 years from now