Looking for big headphones (as always)

[Oyeve]

Looking to add to my huge headphone collection. I like bass and headphones that can take a lot of power. While not a fan of Sony, and even tho their MDR-V700DJ cans always get mediocre reviews, they can take a huge amount of volume before they start crackling, unlike the Senns HD-280 Pro. Anyway, I have been looking at the Sony 7504HD cans and the AT ATH-A700 cans. The 7409HD, according to some sites specs have a freq range from 5-80k, some sites say 5-30k. Anyone know which is the correct freq? Also, re the ATH-A700, does anyone know if these babies can take a lot of power? The have a 53mm driver which is larger than most, but if they cant take extreme power then I wont get them. They look great tho. YOYO, where for art thou?

 

[dBTelos]

I hear that Grado cans are good for power/strong music and games. The SR line looks promising.

 

[Oyeve]

Originally posted by: dBTelos
I hear that Grado cans are good for power/strong music and games. The SR line looks promising.

Looking for sealed cans. Dont want to disturb the wife and kid while I slaughter bad guys in games. Really looking for input on the 2 cans I mentioned above.

 

[Saku]

ATH-A900 or DT770. I've read that there is not enough difference between the A700 and A500 for the average user to notice. I am using the ATH-A500's and they are great, I would highly recommend them if you are looking to spend a little bit less for some great headphones.

The DT770 has velour pads, which I prefer over pleather, and has rediculous bass if that's your thing. They will go as loud as your ears can handle. You can get a new pair on Ebay with a "best offer" for ~145 .

 

[Oyeve]

Originally posted by: Saku
ATH-A900 or DT770. I've read that there is not enough difference between the A700 and A500 for the average user to notice. I am using the ATH-A500's and they are great, I would highly recommend them if you are looking to spend a little bit less for some great headphones.

The DT770 has velour pads, which I prefer over pleather, and has rediculous bass if that's your thing. They will go as loud as your ears can handle. You can get a new pair on Ebay with a "best offer" for ~145 .

The DT770 can only handle 100 mW while my V700DJ and the 7504HDs I am looking at can handle 3000 mW. I need something that takes POWER.

 

[jodoog]

A vote for the A900s. They are 2k though...

A700 are only 500mW max

 

[dBTelos]

Did you do searchs at the Head-Fi forums?

 

[Oyeve]

Originally posted by: dBTelos
Did you do searchs at the Head-Fi forums?

First thing, but they are anti-sony (who isnt). . And the few posts I find are for the 7509 (non HD) or the V900 (older model of the 7509) But sometimes Sony make a good head set. I still have a 20year old V6 set that still kicks ass.

 

[dBTelos]

I wonder why.... they know what their talking about.

 

[Operandi]

I had a set of the Sony V6s before they got lost/stolen. They are very clean, clear, and get insanely loud without breaking up. They are the best headphones I've used but seem to lack a bit of sound stage compared to some of non headphone systems I've heard/own.

I think I'll probably buy another set of V6s, but if you already have them what don't they do that your looking for?

 

[Oyeve]

Originally posted by: Operandi
I had a set of the Sony V6s before they got lost/stolen. They are very clean, clear, and get insanely loud without breaking up. They are the best headphones I've used but seem to lack a bit of sound stage compared to some of non headphone systems I've heard/own.

I think I'll probably buy another set of V6s, but if you already have them what don't they do that your looking for?

Well, mostly I am a collector of headphone. Have a fe3w dozen sets, but I am always looking for something out there. I am interested in the 7509HD because 1. They seem to take be able to take an enormous amount of power 2. 5-80k frequency range seems outrageous and I am interested in seeing how they sound when connected to my Denon 3805, and I like the look of the A700 from AT.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: Oyeve
YOYO, where for art thou?

I'm not really a headphone guy

 

[Operandi]

Originally posted by: Oyeve

Well, mostly I am a collector of headphone. Have a fe3w dozen sets, but I am always looking for something out there. I am interested in the 7509HD because 1. They seem to take be able to take an enormous amount of power 2. 5-80k frequency range seems outrageous and I am interested in seeing how they sound when connected to my Denon 3805, and I like the look of the A700 from AT.

Interesting, do you think there is anything else I should look at other then the V6s for under $100.

 

[PurdueRy]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: Oyeve
YOYO, where for art thou?

I'm not really a headphone guy

I'm with ya, I usually leave this to others that know more on the subject...and there are quite a few "headphone guy's" around here

 

[Oyeve]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: Oyeve
YOYO, where for art thou?

I'm not really a headphone guy

I know, but you seem to be an audiophile, somewhat like myself. and your audio advice has always been sound (pun intended).

 

[Howard]

Are you using a discrete headphone amp?

 

[Oyeve]

Originally posted by: Howard
Are you using a discrete headphone amp?

No, I use a Denon 3805 receiver.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: Oyeve

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: Oyeve
YOYO, where for art thou?

I'm not really a headphone guy

I know, but you seem to be an audiophile, somewhat like myself. and your audio advice has always been sound (pun intended).

I wouldn't say audiophile either. Too many negative connotations to that

How about sound enthusiast or audio enthusiast?

 

[Oyeve]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello



I wouldn't say audiophile either. Too many negative connotations to that

How about sound enthusiast or audio enthusiast?

True, "Audiophile" usually means "sound Snob". I remember when audio CDs first came out and the "Audiophiles" went nuts because the sound was so clear on certain classical CDs and you could hear the musicians turning music sheets. It didnt bother me until it was pointed out, then everytime I listened to an orchestral cd I would then hear pages turning. Drove me nuts, so I guess I am a snob. :laugh:

 

[Auric]

I've been content with the AKG-271.. Perhaps if there is no local store to try 'em all out see if there is a mail-order dealer with a liberal exchange policy. Even a minimal restocking fee wouldn't be too bad versus getting "stuck" with something you don't like (ergo, having ebay them).

 

[darkswordsman17]

I don't know how much power the Audio Technicas can handle, but they are low resistance and don't benefit a whole lot from an amplifier like other headphones do (at least my A900s). I would echo the suggestion for the Beyerdynamic DT-770s is bass is what you want.

With headphones, there's a lot of things that you need to know to be able to recommend something. What will you be listening to? Movies, music, games? What type of music?

The reason why Head-Fi is biased against a lot of Sony's headphones is because they aren't good (sound quality and/or build quality). There are plenty of people there that are fans of their good headphones.

Also, the sound of headphones in my experience seems to be even more subjective than speakers and other audio equipment.

 

[Oyeve]

Originally posted by: Auric
I've been content with the AKG-271.. Perhaps if there is no local store to try 'em all out see if there is a mail-order dealer with a liberal exchange policy. Even a minimal restocking fee wouldn't be too bad versus getting "stuck" with something you don't like (ergo, having ebay them).

Those are sweet but only 200mw max.

 

[Baked]

Head-fi.org

I don't see the point to this thread at all. Are you just looking for crappy headphones that require a crap load of power to drive? If you want something that needs a crap load of power and make 'em sound good at the same time, you should be looking at Electrostatic Earspeakers. Stax SR-007, aka OmegaII.

Type: Push-pull Configuration Electrostatic Headphone
Frequency Response: 6-41,000Hz
Impedance: 170K ohms (10kHz)
Sound Pressure Sensitivity: 100dB/100Vr.m.s. Input/10kHz
Bias voltage: 580VDC

 

[Madwand1]

I almost don't see the point of this thread either. If you want to punish and destroy your hearing, you're on the right track, and then, the sound quality won't matter either, so you'll be able to use any of your multitude of headphones with ease.

 

[PianoMan]

I'm not a fan of Sony 'phones due to their "typically" overemphasized bass and unruly treble, but they're typically more sensitive and have less impedance than Senn's.

Now, the headphone section on your Denon should be plenty enough to drive any 'phone, but I'd focus on sensitivity and impedance rather than driver size. Lower the sensitivity or higher the impedance, the harder it'll be to drive. I think you'd be able to funnel almost any amount of power into a set of cans with that receiver, but the Senn's distortion point (when it becomes audible) would come much earlier than the Sony's.

If I recall, Senn's have sens/imp of around 95dB/60-70ohm vice the Sony's, which can run as high as 105dB on sens an impedances that dip down to the 40's (ohms).

So yes, check the sens/imp on the Sony's - if their higher/lower than the Senn's, they'll typically play louder before they start to break up (but make sure to protect your hearing!!! ).

Originally posted by: dBTelos
I hear that Grado cans are good for power/strong music and games. The SR line looks promising.

Wholehearted agree - my SR-60's are cheap for the $$$, but rock! :music: :music: :music:

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