Looking for a TV in/out card... HELP PLS!!

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I have an ATI all-in-wonder now and im looking to purchase another card for a different computer. I want to get something that is not ati so that I can compare. I would like a better resolution and something that could possibly covert things to divx format easily.

Any advice.

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Just so you know, the AIW card already supports full resolution NTSC and PAL analog capture, and divx encoding is performed by your CPU, not you video card.
 

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Right, but from what I understand some cards capture the signal in different codecs that are quicker to convert in to divx or that card can be set to actually encode directly into divx with the right encoding software. ( I thought )

Basicly I want a card much like the one I have, even if its ATI but I want one that has more memory and better resolution.. The divx thing I will worry about later..
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You can use a capture program like VirtualDub or iuVCR or the like if you don't like ATI's digital VCR from MMC, that way you can easily configure codecs within the application. I capture straight to divx on occasion with my AIW.

You're not going to find better resolution on any other analog capture device, it doesn't get any higher than supported by the radeon. More memory on the card itself addresses mainly gaming issues rather than video capture/quality. Want more gaming performance? get a faster AIW.
 

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As far as the tv-out is concerned is the amout of memory on the video card a factor at all?

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As far as the tv-out is concerned is the amout of memory on the video card a factor at all?

None whatsoever. Are you having a problem on the quality of your TV-out? What is your set up?
 

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Not really having a problem, just looking for the latest and greatest card out. Right now its running on a AMD 700 Duron but, I have the all in wonder tv out, I have my DSS on the tv in. I have monsoon surround sound which plays well but I just wanted to see if there was a better card out as far as picture quality or encoding quality or speed. Im not much of a gamer.

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Encoding "quality" is a function of the codec used, and encoding "speed" may be enhanced with a hardware encoder, but my experience is that there is not a consumer level hardware encoder with decent quality...in other words, you may encode some formats faster with some hardware, but the current crop of software encoders will encode better quality final video.

PC video is pretty demanding, especially with lower powered duron to encode with. However, I used a duron 650 with my original AIW Radeon starting out, and mananged to get excellent results, my current rig just does it faster...but not better as far as capturing/editing/encoding are concerned (the exception being highest bitrate real-time MPEG-2 captures would drop frames). Capturing divx on the fly is going to be a bit much with your rig, and there are no divx hardware encoders anyway.

There are different TV-out capabilities between the different AIW cards however. Older Radeon and rage AIW cards only support 800 X 600 via TV-out (makes no difference at all for NTSC(or PAL) video however, as it exceeds the 480i broadcast standard that is displayed on analog TV sets)

The 8500 and 9000 cards support a component output adaptor, and the AIW 9700 has native component output. DVI and VGA will also allow high resolution output, all these methods are dependant on a display capable of actually displaying the signal.

Determine what your priorities are first:

Want faster encodings....upgrade your rig. Want higher quality captures, maybe simply using s-video input from your DSS reciever into your AIW could help quite a bit there. Want better TV-out, does your TV have s-video input? The image quality is actually quite good on my 32" Sanyo via s-video.
 

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AIW 9700pro is as good as its gonna get. If you really wanted to try something different, you could get a VIVO GF4 Ti4600, but I'm thinking you are setting yourself up for disappointment.

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