Looking for a site on past and present US Air Force planes

NFS4

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I used to be a big Air Force fan and knew every plane I saw (I still do, but I'm a bit rusty). Can you recommend me a site that has all of America's Air Force jet fighters/bombers and the X-planes?

I'm looking for pics and descriptions
 

kwan

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check out the planes manufactures pages. try boeing ect. i know they have pics of all their planes
 

NFS4

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Boeing doesn't make any good fighters...but I'll check the others. Problem is, most of those old companies are gone or have merged


Ahhh, Janes...how could I have forgotten :) I must have checked the Janes book out from my local library a million times when I was a kid :p
 

SuperGroove

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Milair.net



<< Boeing doesn't make any good fighters...but I'll check the others. Problem is, most of those old companies are gone or have merged


Ahhh, Janes...how could I have forgotten I must have checked the Janes book out from my local library a million times when I was a kid
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First of all...Boeing makes the F-15E. Secondly, they make the F/A-18E. Two of the best planes in the world.:)They also continue to make the F-15C. Anyways...at my library Jane's &quot;All The World's Aircraft&quot; is considered reference(the book costs $900+), so I could never check it out you lucky bastard, you.


My friend's site: Orion's Military Aircraft Photos

Yea...I used to be in an online fighter squadron...
 

NFS4

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<< First of all...Boeing makes the F-15E. Secondly, they make the F/A-18E. Two of the best planes in the world >>


The way I remember it, the F-15 and F/A-18 were both originally made by Mc Donnel Douglas. And I do belieive that the F-18 was originally flown under the Northrop name.

I don't know when this Boeing business came in and took over things...see that's what I mean when I say that all these companies have either dropped or merged.

And BTW, the F-16C is my favorite plane in the whole world and it ass pumped the F/A-18 when they originally had the fly off in the mid 70's to become the next Air Force low-cost fighter. And it STILL kicks ass.
 

SuperGroove

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Micky D did design the F-15A/C/E. Northrop designed the YF-17(later to become the F/A-18), and I believe McDonnell Douglas salvaged what was left of the YF-17. Northrop bought Grumman(F-14).

I'm all confused now. However...the point is Boeing makes kick ass planes:) But I get what you're saying...stealing designs from other companies...and calling them they're own, those bastards!!

BTW...the F-16A/C kicks MUCHO ARSE! I really wish they would've gone ahead and developed the F-16XL. Supposedly the same payload capability as the F-15E! With the PW-220E engines, the F-15E sucks donkey balls. My favorite planes included the McDonnell Douglas F-4E Phantom II, the Grumman F-14D, and of course, the F-16C Block 52. The F-15E with PW-229 Engines is also one of my favs

The block 40 was the upgrade that transformed the F-16 into a good multi-role aircraft. However, the VERY FIRST aircraft to be truly multi-role from the design stage to production stage, was the F/A-18. Who cares though...Block 52 gave the F-16 B40/42 uprated engines, and will lay waste to the F/A-18! Well that's what I like to think anyways...the F-16 is all digital, therefore it has hard coded limitations. The F/A-18 is supreme at the low speed regime, whereas the F-16 isn't so good. The F-16 though, is still one of the most agile birds in service and the benchmark for most of the 5th generation fighters.
 

NFS4

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<< I really wish they would've gone ahead and developed the F-16XL >>


Yeah, that was a MUCHO awesome design with the large delta wing. The air force went with the F-15E instead :(These new replacements for the F-16 and AV8-B looks kinda frumpy (the X-32 and X-35).
 

SuperGroove

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What pisses me off more...is that a half assed upgrade(F/A-18E) is replacing the F-14D. The only plane that will kick ass in the future, is the F-22(it's ugly though!). I hope the X-35 is the better of the two...I don't think I could stand looking at Boeing's X-32. They just don't make em like they used :D

WHY OH WHY DID THEY CANCEL THE YF-23:(:(
 

NFS4

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<< WHY OH WHY DID THEY CANCEL THE YF-23 >>


I'm the exact opposite. I think that the YF-23 was ugly while the F22 is awesome. Still doesn't look better than the F-16C :)

Oh, and what hooked me on the F-16 was the movie Iron Eagle :D
 

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<< I'm the exact opposite. I think that the YF-23 was ugly while the F22 is awesome. Still doesn't look better than the F-16C >>



I have a friend who is an engineer for Raytheon and as involved with the project that designed both the YF-22 and YF23. They were building the heads up display for both and he was privy to a lot of inside information. He was shocked when they announced that they were going with the YF-22 as our nexy main line fighter. In all of the competitions the 23 had flown circles around the 22 and was, according to my friend, a much better designed aircraft. He told me several times that he saw data on both planes performance and that the 22 wasn't even close to the 23 in most areas. Since both planes were using almost exactly the same HUD systems he didn't really care which won since they would build the system in the final aircraft but he was quite amazed that the 22 won.
 

SuperGroove

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shinerburke,

the reason why the YF-22 won, was because of it's emphasis on agility. The YF-23 was no slouch though...and it should have won!
 

Pocatello

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With the F-15E, with one engine dies, you still have another one, with the F-16XL, you become a $50Mil lawn dart (this has happened quite often with all versions of the F-16).