Looking for a Second Opinion on my e6600 Stock Temperatures

[eojinlim]

I currently have a Scythe Ninja Heatsink with a Yate Loon 12v fan blowing air through the heatsink and my temperatures are as follows:

43 TAT Idle/54 TAT Load

I have put AS5 a couple of hours ago and was wondering whether these temperatures seem right or whether I could do better if I waited for the break-in period.

Feedback is much appreciated. Just need a second opinion just to make sure.

 

[nippyjun]

Those temps seem pretty good.

What is your room temp, and what is your case temp?

 

[eojinlim]

Well, my room temperature is 22-24C since it's getting kinda chilly up here in Toronto now.

Case temperature. I have no idea but I think it's probably 32-35C if I remember correctly from my BIOS.

 

[Noubourne]

If your case temp is 10C above your room temp (ambient), then you have air circulation issues. Namely, your case airflow sucks.

Your in-case temp should be a couple degrees over ambient tops. Hot air should be flowing directly out the back, and it should be doing so fast enough that it does not add heat to any of the devices in your system.

If you take the side off your case and stick your hand in there and it is noticeably warmer than your room, then you should look at getting some better exhaust fans. Maybe add an intake, although I'd consider that a last ditch effort.

A good measure of whether or not your case is doing a good job of cooling, is to take the side panel off and leave it open to the room. If your CPU temps drop more than a few degrees, then you should check your cable managment and review your exhaust/intake fan configuration.

If your exhaust fan(s) are old, they may not perform nearly as well as when they were new. They may also be much louder than a (good) new fan. 43/54 isn't scary or anything, but it is possible that you'd be at 35/46 if you got good airflow going through your case, and that will CERTAINLY give you more overclocking headroom.

 

[CurseTheSky]

That's way too hot for the inside of a case. What are you using the measure it?

I have a cheap fan controller + LCD with a couple of temperature probes that I let hang. It's somewhere around 22-23C in the room, and the case temperature is reading 24.5C.

You may want to add or exchange fans, depending on your setup. Is it a small case, and do you have tons of wires running everywhere? Try organizing things.

The expansion slot blower fans can help a lot when placed under a hot graphics card. My entire system used to run hot from one 8800GTX, but with the addition of a PCI-slot fan, everything in the case is pretty cool.

Finally, try using a can of compressed air to blow any dust out of the system.

 

[eojinlim]

Well, I've overclocked my system to 3.1 ghz and my temps on load are 63C according to TAT. Looks like I may have improperly placed the AS5 on the heatspreader of my e6600.

Those temps are too hot for a heatsink cooled by a scythe ninja, right?

 

[CurseTheSky]

What voltage are you running through the processor?

What is your northbridge (chipset) temperature as reported by the BIOS? What graphics card are you running, and how hot is it getting (you'll have to download nVidia nTune to see it if you have one of theirs).

If your voltage isn't extremely high (under 1.45v), you probably need to reseat your heatsink and try again with the thermal paste. Remember, too much thermal paste will have a negative effect on your cooling power.

 

[eojinlim]

vcore: stock 1.328 (as seen from TAT)
Chipset/system: 31C (as seen from EasyTune5)
Graphisc card: 50C

i think ill have to researt it.

 

[eojinlim]

UPDATE:

I have just reseated my ninja and temperatures are significantly down. I am not sure whether it was because I put more AS5 or whether I did not seat the heatsink correctly. However, there are my before and after temps. These temps are at stock 2.4ghz with vcore of 1.3.

BEFORE: 43/54
AFTER: 37/51

What I am still puzzled about is the fact that my load temps are not significantly lower.Any ideas as to why?

 

[eojinlim]

anyone have any input or advise regarding my temps? I have lower idle temps at stock but when TAT is stressing the system, it shoots up to like 55C.

 

[eojinlim]

nobody?

 

[43st]

I have a E6600 and a Ninja rev.2 (in an Antec 900), with 20C room temp. I have 32C idle, 40C load at stock speeds.

I'm also using Vista which throttles the CPU multiplier in power savings mode, but that only accounts for the idle temperature, not load.

 

[Noubourne]

Originally posted by: eojinlim
anyone have any input or advise regarding my temps? I have lower idle temps at stock but when TAT is stressing the system, it shoots up to like 55C.

Because it is overclocked. 55C is nothing to worry about when overclocked.

Have you tested your stock temps with your new mount?

 

[Balex99]

I am using the Sythe Ninja and I was running a bit high on my 6600 temps. Reseated it once and did not make much difference. Took the side cover off the case and temps dropped significantly. Did a quick survey of my case fans(using Antec P180) and found that my intake fan was barely turning. I had wired it up wrong during a wire cleanup job. Moved my low speed sythe fan from the heatsink to the upper case vent location. Ended up moving the three speed fan to the heatsink so now I have a fairly fast fan on the Ninja and the same type right behind it on the exhaust.

Made a big difference in temps. Able to run 1.43 on vcore and 3.6 on my 6600 and staying under 60 at load.

 

[zagood]

There's no reason why you should have to run 1.43v on the vcore to hit 3.6ghz with the e6600. Try lowering your vcore one notch at a time until it won't boot, then up it by 2 notches, and stress test.

Good to know you found the main problem though.

-z

 

[LouPoir]

Those are good temps

 

[nippyjun]

Originally posted by: zagood
There's no reason why you should have to run 1.43v on the vcore to hit 3.6ghz with the e6600. Try lowering your vcore one notch at a time until it won't boot, then up it by 2 notches, and stress test.

Good to know you found the main problem though.

-z

I have to run at 1.46 (actual after droop) just to get mine to run at 3.425. Look at the conroe overclockers database on hardocp. The average 6600 hit 3.452. The average voltage for overclocks is 1.4632

 

[3NF]

With no overclocking, TAT reports 28C idle. When running 100% workload, it gets as high as 50C

 

[nippyjun]

Originally posted by: 3NF
With no overclocking, TAT reports 28C idle. When running 100% workload, it gets as high as 50C

50 is fine, the real test will be with overclocking. My e6600 gets up to the low 70's with a 3.4 overclock and 1.46 volts.

 

[eojinlim]

Originally posted by: Balex99
I am using the Sythe Ninja and I was running a bit high on my 6600 temps. Reseated it once and did not make much difference. Took the side cover off the case and temps dropped significantly. Did a quick survey of my case fans(using Antec P180) and found that my intake fan was barely turning. I had wired it up wrong during a wire cleanup job. Moved my low speed sythe fan from the heatsink to the upper case vent location. Ended up moving the three speed fan to the heatsink so now I have a fairly fast fan on the Ninja and the same type right behind it on the exhaust.

Made a big difference in temps. Able to run 1.43 on vcore and 3.6 on my 6600 and staying under 60 at load.

What fan are you running on the ninja heatsink? I put a yate loon running on 12volts. Is that sufficient?

My stock temps with the new mount is sitting at 42C idle/55C load with vcore of 1,328v on CPU-Z....is that reasonable or should I try remounting it or attaching a higher cfm f120mm fan?

 

[eojinlim]

Originally posted by: nippyjun

Originally posted by: 3NF
With no overclocking, TAT reports 28C idle. When running 100% workload, it gets as high as 50C

50 is fine, the real test will be with overclocking. My e6600 gets up to the low 70's with a 3.4 overclock and 1.46 volts.

isn't 70C a little too high?

 

[eojinlim]

what fan do you have on your ninja?

 

[WoodButcher]

http://aloader.com/files/65/new%20box%2002.JPG
the rig in my sig. Thermalright U120 cooling w/ Silenx 120x38 fan
I ran the tests a few hours to check out my new case. all the temps and voltage are posted. room temp is about 72 f.

 

[eojinlim]

Those are very nice temps. Currently I have mine at 44C at 2.52ghz on an e6600 with 1.325 as my vcore. That's idle. How is your case flow and how did you go about making sure you had great good case air flow? My case is a mess and I wanted to see how people set up their cases so well that the wires and ribbon cases weren't all over the place.

 

[WoodButcher]

Cases are a thorn in my side. There are just too many choices. Basically use wire ties and or wraps , sleeves, round IDE cables. No filters or fan grilles, the grilles look good but they break the air and cause noise unless your fans are running slow. If you cut the stamped steel grill from the back of your case odds are good you will notice a big difference. Direction of the fans is ALMOST always the same, front - side IN, rear - top OUT. I lap all my heatsinks and my CPU cap. Use a fan speed contol, I have a zalman ZM-MFC1 and I use 3 Silenx 120mm and 2 80mm, Scythe kaze 40mm on the NB and a Kingwin cooler on my 7950 (OC @ 600/1525).
My case-
http://aloader.com/files/65/DSCF0609.JPG
http://aloader.com/files/65/DSCF0619.JPG
In another month I'm getting the Commando mobo and going back to water as I'm interested in a little more overclock. This board is micro ATX and the clock is limited to 3.2 and to get that requires naked dancing under the new moon when the tide is high,,,,
not a pretty sight!