Looking for a new Monitor 19 or 20in?

[SteelGuy]

Hi,

I'm using a Gateway EV700 pos CRT right now..

Looking into getting a new LCD.
Not sure if I should be going for 19inch or 20inch.

20inch seems to be good - but you have to run at native. I have a Radeon X800 (Normal).
Doesn't seem like this card is the sweetest thing out there, not the worst either though.

So in that case - it seems like 19 is the way to go?

What would you guys recommend.
It seems like a lot of people push LD90, Samsuing, and the Viewsonic...everyone else likes the 20inch or higher dells it seems.

I play some games, HL2, Q3, Prob will play some FPS here and there

I also want to be able to watch movies...

What do you guys think?

Also - is it possible to Dual LCD with one of these setups?
Thanks!

 

[daftpunkit]

with that video card, any decent 19" the ppl recommend: L90D+, Viewsonic 191b/s or VX924, LG 1981Q, Samsung 193P+ or 915N or 930B.

Any 20.1" that use 1600x1200 res will put more strain on your X800, but if you get a new video card in the future (a NV70 series, or R5xx series) go 20.1"+, and Dell is recommended because mostly of their bang per buck. They have great performance for price.

 

[SteelGuy]

As I JUST built this PC - doesn't look like im getting a vid card for another year at least.

So would a more suitable solution be the Samsung Or Hyundai?
Seems the VS is good at 4ms..but seems to be less liked compared to samsung or hyundai.

 

[Saga]

Own two 915n's and use them for gaming over a 2005fpw.

 

[duragezic]

I more than likely have a much slower computer than you do if you just built 'er, so I don't see how 2005FPW's native res would strain your system. I don't have any money whatsoever to upgrade it in the next 6 months at least, so as long as HL2/CS:S is playable at 1680x1050 (which it definitely is on mine; Source engine rocks), then I'm happy. For older games like Q3A, it probably doesn't have native WS support, but might be able to be edited in. I know that I would have no way in hell running FEAR or whathaveyou at the native res, but honestly I don't care much about gaming these days (time and money) so as long as I got me a few semi-new good ones, I'm ok with that.

 

[SteelGuy]

Is the LD90+ a samsung screen but w/ dvi?

If so - are dead pixels more of a random thing (could happen to either screens) or more common with the LD90?

 

[SteelGuy]

Okay - I think I'm back at stage ones. Ive been trying to read a lot of posts on this type of subject.

Basically it comes down to a Dell (2001 Probably) or the Ld90+
The dell is def the better monitor it seems.

Some things I'm wondering are - will the scaling on the Dell Be okay - For sure I would lower the resolution in games.
The desktop space would be nice, I'm sure I could run that in native without much issue...But I would def scale down most games.

Otherwise - I could go 19inch and not have the issue alltogether...But would the monitor be that much more 'inferior'?

Also - I've read that the Dell is 12ms resposne and I've also read 16ms - which is correct?

Thanks a lot.

 

[SteelGuy]

Bump - also found its 16ms..
Is this going to suck?

 

[Icepick]

Scaling down the resolution on ANY LCD sucks. The picture gets distorted when you change the resolution. That's just the nature of LCD's. Right now the 2001pf is retailing for $561 at the Dell website. This is too much money for that monitor IMO. If you decide to get the Dell then I'd suggest frequenting the Hot Deals section for coupon codes. You can knock off $100 - $150 that way if you're lucky.

The best feature of the Dell is it's 1600x1200 resolution, which is great for general purpose functions but, will tax your vid card with all the eye candy turned up. Also, you're playing Russian roulette with Dell. I just purchased a 2005fpw last month and the first monitor they sent me had three stuck pixels and backlighting issues. The replacement they sent had no dead/stuck pixels but, still has the backlighting issues. I can live with that so, won't return it again.

Correct me if I'm wrong but, from reading this thread it seems that your primary use for the LCD is games. In that case I'd recommend the LD90+. It's got a stellar reputation in the gaming community. It's got a lower native resolution that your video card can easily handle and it's priced $200 lower than the Dell before coupons.

 

[Icepick]

Originally posted by: SteelGuy
Is the LD90+ a samsung screen but w/ dvi?

If so - are dead pixels more of a random thing (could happen to either screens) or more common with the LD90?

Yes, the LD90+ uses the same panel that the Samsung 930B uses.

Yes, dead pixels are a random occurance and it's pretty much luck of the draw with any LCD. I haven't read anywhere that they're more common with the LD90.

 

[SteelGuy]

I'd say I play games 35% of the time..
Video 20%
and the rest general use (net word)

I guess I'm concerned about game preformance because it's always been a good indicator of how good parts are, and I have a preconception that it applies to monitors too...

Yeah, I def won't buy the Dell for 550 or whatnot, only if I find a deal.

Maby I'm reading too much into speed?

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

I suggest you to get a Viewsonic VP191b. Most people who have the new version will tell you it rocks.

I personally compared the VP191b against the Samsung 930B (8 ms) panel. While the TN panels (ISO 8ms panels) are faster, the overdrive panels still have FAR better colors and are still quite fast.

If you want to please your eyes, get the Viewsonic. If you will sacrifice color quality, visual quality and other stuff just for speed, then TN Panels like hte Samsung 930B or LD90 will fit you.

 

[Icepick]

I agree with DLeRium that the VP191b is the best all-around 19" LCD. It's great for games and office tasks. It's at Newegg for $439.99.
The LD90+ is great for games and mediocre for general use apps. It's at Newegg for $345.99.
If you can cough up $100 more then get the Viewsonic. If you're on a budget then the LD90+ is your best bet.

 

[ITPaladin]

I am of the mind if you are going to spend so much as nearly $500 for a monitor like the Viewsonic, you might as well go 2005FPW. Look for the coupons.
If I had the money, I would be tempted to buy from the trusted power sellers on Ebay.
You can transfer warranty ownership on the Dell website too.

 

[Elfear]

2005fpw rocks for gaming.

 

[silencer534]

Samsung 930B

 

[SteelGuy]

930B = L90D+

It seem's like I would probably want to invest the extra 100$
I imagine that my monitor should be my longest lasting component (if not one of them)

So I guess I'd have to say the Viewsonic vs the 2005FP..

Which brings it back to the 'will my card be ok' with a bigger screen like that.

It seems like most of you think even if it is okay to handle it, 19inch will be better all around?

 

[SteelGuy]

With 60$ off coupon I can bring Dell to 510 (With shippin and TAX CA) for the 2005


For new egg..its 483...ship + tax.

 

[SteelGuy]

What kind of card are u guys running to be able to play games w/ 2005?

I'm sure I could do it now..

But I'm not sure down the line if I will be able to crank stuff up that much..

I think im learning towards the viewsonic for its 19inch...

 

[Icepick]

I'm using a 6800GT with my 2005fpw at native resolution (1650x1050). I play Counterstrike Source all the time. I've got all visualization effects set to High. Antialiasing is at 2x and I get excellent framerates. I haven't tried 4x yet. CS:S is the only game I've played with this monitor. It's great because the game has widescreen support built-in. With Half Life 2/CS:S and widescreen support you actually have a wider field of view so you see more scenery than you would at other resolutions.

 

[MBrown]

do yo mean L90D+? If so get that.

 

[ITPaladin]

As I said elsewhere, if you do not mind the 90 day warranty on Dell Outlet products, they have monitors there. The 2005FPW goes for $428 and 102 in stock as I type this.

The 1905FP is $348.

 

[SteelGuy]

I think the main reason I was avodiing the Dell's 19inch was because the resposne time is slow, - pretty much the worst of the mentioned monitors.

The viewsonic seems to be fast w/ good looking colors (19inch though)

The Dell 2005 seems to have the qualities of the viewsonic, in addition to widescreen 20inch.

The Ld90+ seems good for a budget, but like some of you have reasoned, I'd throw down the extra 100 for the better looking stuff.

So between the dell and viewsonic, prices are comprable.

It just basically comes down to - Can the X800 handle the 2005?

Correct me if im wrong but, for office apps (general use)
It should

Most games, it should (apparently CS:S works according to ice)

The NEWEST game - id have trouble at maxed out res.

the VS - Same as above except would run newest games well..

So its back to whether native resolution is THAT important.

Now i'm not so sure again...considering my gaming isn't (Or shouldn't - other things to think about) be more then 45% of my use at a peak.
I'm guessing 35% avg.