Looking for a highlight of a sweet goal

BigToque

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I was watching TV 2 nights ago and I saw a highlight of a guy (I assume in overtime), skate towards the goalie, stop, do a complete spin with the puck and put the puck in on his backhand.

I thought it was an ottawa player, but I might be mistaken.

NHL.com has highlights from all the games, but I don't know what teams were playing or on what day.

I assume the play happened within the last week.
 

meltdown75

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I'm pretty sure it was PM Bouchard from the Wild. Game against the Blackhawks the other night that went to a shootout.

Thanks to Insane3D for giving me the head's up on that one... :)

dang Websense blocks YouTube... I guess that would be a good site to block though!
 

BCYL

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How come that isn't goalie interfere? He was clearly in the crease, and he clearly bumped into the goalie....
 

rh71

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Originally posted by: BCYL
How come that isn't goalie interfere? He was clearly in the crease, and he clearly bumped into the goalie....
It was close. You do see players completely running the goalie after they score a goal all the time though, but it's moot since the puck had already crossed the goal line. Usually the players are just off-balance after the deke.. or a defender pushed them.

I say it was close because Bouchard's skates made contact almost at the same time as the puck crossing the line.

BTW, when I take a shootout, I'm always reminded that the "puck cannot go backwards" which I thought was the same rule for the NHL. Apparently it's only the body of the player cannot move backwards relative to the motion. They are scamming me of my spin-o-rama ! ;)

Still like this as the nicest move though... Vermette's a smooth one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-eP3KYcMOk
 

dquan97

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Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: BCYL
How come that isn't goalie interfere? He was clearly in the crease, and he clearly bumped into the goalie....
It was close. You do see players completely running the goalie after they score a goal all the time though, but it's moot since the puck had already crossed the goal line. Usually the players are just off-balance after the deke.. or a defender pushed them.

I say it was close because Bouchard's skates made contact almost at the same time as the puck crossing the line.

BTW, when I take a shootout, I'm always reminded that the "puck cannot go backwards" which I thought was the same rule for the NHL. Apparently it's only the body of the player cannot move backwards relative to the motion. They are scamming me of my spin-o-rama ! ;)

I'll take that challenge :D
 

rh71

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Originally posted by: dquan97
I'll take that challenge :D
I know quite a few of us play ... it would be so nice to get together for a skate... pipe dream, I guess.
 

dquan97

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Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: dquan97
I'll take that challenge :D
I know quite a few of us play ... it would be so nice to get together for a skate... pipe dream, I guess.

maybe when we're old, retired, and can afford to fly cross-country on a whim.
 

Slick5150

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Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: BCYL
How come that isn't goalie interfere? He was clearly in the crease, and he clearly bumped into the goalie....
It was close. You do see players completely running the goalie after they score a goal all the time though, but it's moot since the puck had already crossed the goal line. Usually the players are just off-balance after the deke.. or a defender pushed them.

I say it was close because Bouchard's skates made contact almost at the same time as the puck crossing the line.

BTW, when I take a shootout, I'm always reminded that the "puck cannot go backwards" which I thought was the same rule for the NHL. Apparently it's only the body of the player cannot move backwards relative to the motion. They are scamming me of my spin-o-rama ! ;)

Still like this as the nicest move though... Vermette's a smooth one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-eP3KYcMOk


As long as you're in control of the puck you can be in the crease before the goal is scored. As for interference that's somewhat of a judgement call, but basically as long as you're making a move to score (rather than intentinally just trying to knock the goalie over), its allowable.


 

TuxDave

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What's the rules about a shootout. Can the player turn his back from the goal or is the rule only that he can't move away from the goal.
 

meltdown75

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Originally posted by: TuxDave
What's the rules about a shootout. Can the player turn his back from the goal or is the rule only that he can't move away from the goal.
According to the rulebook (17mb .pdf download :shocked: ), "The rules governing the shootout shall be the same as those listed under Rule 25 - Penalty Shot." Where the only reference in terms of forward movement is as follows: "...the puck must be kept in motion towards the opponent's goal line and once it is shot, the play shall be considered complete."

I interpret this as meaning the player can do anything he wants to with his body as long as the puck continues in a forward motion.

This rule should be added to... it could get pretty sticky in certain situations. Sometimes the puck is pulled laterally, perhaps almost parallel to the goal line. I don't think you could rule out the possibility of the puck being dragged backwards, even on the slightest of angles.

Check out Marek Malik's goal in the 14th round of the shootout last year, where he clearly drags the puck backwards before making an incredible shot:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlplXgDMDdA

The question is: would the refs rule it a no-goal? I think in that situation, they were just as stunned as everyone else...
 

czech09

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Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: TuxDave
What's the rules about a shootout. Can the player turn his back from the goal or is the rule only that he can't move away from the goal.
According to the rulebook (17mb .pdf download :shocked: ), "The rules governing the shootout shall be the same as those listed under Rule 25 - Penalty Shot." Where the only reference in terms of forward movement is as follows: "...the puck must be kept in motion towards the opponent's goal line and once it is shot, the play shall be considered complete."

I interpret this as meaning the player can do anything he wants to with his body as long as the puck continues in a forward motion.

This rule should be added to... it could get pretty sticky in certain situations. Sometimes the puck is pulled laterally, perhaps almost parallel to the goal line. I don't think you could rule out the possibility of the puck being dragged backwards, even on the slightest of angles.

Check out Marek Malik's goal in the 14th round of the shootout last year, where he clearly drags the puck backwards before making an incredible shot:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlplXgDMDdA

The question is: would the refs rule it a no-goal? I think in that situation, they were just as stunned as everyone else...

Malik's goal owns...one of the best in the NHL (ever). Right up there with Ovechkin's goal from last season...

Go Leafs Go!
 

Insane3D

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Apparently Brodeur didn't like the goal...:

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=187520&hubname=nhl

The spin-o-rama goal by Minnesota Wild winger Pierre-Marc Bouchard against Chicago Blackhawks goalie Nikolai Khabibulin Tuesday night had everyone talking. And now New Jersey Devils netminder Martin Brodeur is talking to director of hockey affairs for the NHL Players' Association, Mike Gartner.

Bouchard made a spinning move and then kicked Khabibulin's right skate before scoring on his backhand in the shootout. The goal prompted Brodeur to send an e-mail to Gartner, saying the league needs to determine if a player can make contact with a goalie during shootouts.

Brodeur said he did not ask Gartner to immediately file an official complaint, but that he was concerned the shootout will become a "circus" where some players might start carrying the puck on their sticks for a lacrosse-style shot.

Earlier this season, Brodeur complained to the league about Alexander Ovechkin's mirrored visor because it prevented goalies from seeing the eyes of the Capitals forward.

That bolded part is just pure whining...I used to love Marty...when did he become such a cry baby?
 

meltdown75

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lol... seems like Brodeur is just pre-emptively striking at the players and the shootout. Some goalies hate the shootouts. :)

It does pretty much put the game in your tender's hands though... moreso than your shooters. Pressure cooker! :p
 

BigToque

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Originally posted by: Insane3D
Apparently Brodeur didn't like the goal...:

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=187520&hubname=nhl

The spin-o-rama goal by Minnesota Wild winger Pierre-Marc Bouchard against Chicago Blackhawks goalie Nikolai Khabibulin Tuesday night had everyone talking. And now New Jersey Devils netminder Martin Brodeur is talking to director of hockey affairs for the NHL Players' Association, Mike Gartner.

Bouchard made a spinning move and then kicked Khabibulin's right skate before scoring on his backhand in the shootout. The goal prompted Brodeur to send an e-mail to Gartner, saying the league needs to determine if a player can make contact with a goalie during shootouts.

Brodeur said he did not ask Gartner to immediately file an official complaint, but that he was concerned the shootout will become a "circus" where some players might start carrying the puck on their sticks for a lacrosse-style shot.

Earlier this season, Brodeur complained to the league about Alexander Ovechkin's mirrored visor because it prevented goalies from seeing the eyes of the Capitals forward.

That bolded part is just pure whining...I used to love Marty...when did he become such a cry baby?

I think he has a legitimate concern, but I think as always it will be up to the ref to decide if a play is allowed or not. If you bump the goalie and it's obviously intentional then the ref will call the goal off. In the case of Bouchard, you can clearly see that he wasn't trying to interfere. As far as I can see, he only even hit the goalies stick and not his skate like Brodeur says.

The mirror finish on ovechkin's visor is banned in international hockey because it's a pretty big distraction regardless of whether or not you can see the players eyes. I don't think he should be allowed to use it.