Looking for a high quality game server company that does this..

dcpsoguy

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My friends Battlefield 1942 clan built up this really sweet PC, they spent a lot of money on it. Now they need to send it somewhere and actually put it to use. Basically, they need to pay for bandwith. As you might know, BF requires atleast an OC3.

Now, my question is, what is a good server company that does this? How much would it cost monthly?
 

Maverick

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bf1942 requires an OC3? What planet are you from? You can run it on a T1 if you keep the player count low enough. Are you wanting to run a 64 player server?
 

dcpsoguy

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Actually, we are looking for a 26 player server. A T1 can only hold 16 players before it gets real laggy. A T3 can only hold like 22 player. And then theres the OC3. Can hold 26 players just fine. They will need an OC3.


BTW, the 26 players limit is from CAL.
 

Yossarian

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we use Wicked Servers but we just rent the server from them. It's $195/month. I don't understand why someone would build a server without having this question answered in advance, but whatever!
 

Kilrsat

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Originally posted by: dcpsoguy
Actually, we are looking for a 26 player server. A T1 can only hold 16 players before it gets real laggy. A T3 can only hold like 22 player. And then theres the OC3. Can hold 26 players just fine. They will need an OC3.


BTW, the 26 players limit is from CAL.

Think about what you're saying:
1.5Mbps = 16 players.
45Mbps = 22 players?
155Mbps = 26 players?

Anyone else think these numbers are off?
 

Maverick

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those numbers are definitely off. A T3 should be more than enough for what he wants to do.
 

rahvin

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Cut him a break people, he doesn't know jack squat about bandwidth. He gets his information from IRC. Everyone with common sense realizes he is talking out his ass.
 

vash

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From what I've read about BF1942, A LOT of work is done on the server's CPU, not necessarily network bandwidth. Most FPS games can use 3-4k/sec for each user (up to 6k, but that's a little unusual for most FPS games). 26 players * 5k/sec = ~130k/sec. I'm betting that a T1 can handle 26 users for a BF1942 server, but the CPU is a huge factor for this game.

vash
 

dcpsoguy

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It's obvious you guys know nothing about BF1942. The usage of the CPU and bandwith is insane. You start a server on a T1 or a T3 and see if it gets 26 players without lagging.

Don't start insulting me when you don't know what you are talking about.
 

Kilrsat

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There is no game server that has as a requirement over 2Mbps up/down per player. That would translate to anyone that isn't on their own T1+ to not be able to play.

Look at the numbers.

If 16 players all manage to fit on a 1.5Mbps pipe, then there are going to be a lot more than 22 people on 45Mbps, unless you have magically hit the CPU limit at 22 people. In which case more bandwidth won't solve anything.

Give me a T3 and I promise, I'll have at least 23 people :)

Use your brain, apply some critical thinking.
 

dcpsoguy

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Go try it. Idiot. Don't tell me I'm stupid before you try it.

Can anybody help me and stop flaming me?
 

Kilrsat

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No one can help you if you elect not to think.

1500/16 = 93.75kbps dedicated per user.

Now since we're estimating, let's double that: 200kbps per user.

So 200kbps per user * 26 users = 5200kbps.

Is 5200 less than, greater than, or equal to 45000?
 

Beau

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Originally posted by: dcpsoguy
Ok, fine, it can work on a T1. Whatever you say.

Now can somebody help me?

Well, think about it on a sheer economic standpoint. If you want to have a truely popular net game, it has to be affordable to run. If it requires a OC3 to have 23 players, and an OC3 (dedicated) is in the neighborhood of $30k/month (to start), how in the hell would you expect people to host their own gaming servers?

Hell, even if you colocate your server, you'll still be paying at least $200 for a 256kx24x7 connection -- far from a OC3 capacity.
 

Beau

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From BF42.com:

As a rough rule of thumb, each player requires anywhere from 50 to 80 KBps. You need a *minimum* of a T1 to support a 16 player server, dual T1 (3 Mb) for a 32 player server, and just over 6 Mb for a 64 player server (although that can hit up to 7 or 8 Mb/sec depending on how many people are connecting and downloading maps). Basically you need some serious bandwidth for anything over a 16 player server and it should be dedicated hardware (i.e. it's only a server, no GUI or other apps running on it).
 

cpals

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Originally posted by: dcpsoguy
Go try it. Idiot. Don't tell me I'm stupid before you try it.

Can anybody help me and stop flaming me?

Before acting like you know everything about BF1942, try doing some research first. I doubt you even know how much an OC3 costs and if you did, you would definitely know that you will never be able to afford one, unless all of your players are rich doctors.

Alot of the people here weren't "flaming" you, but trying to make you realize that you weren't thinking about what you were saying.
 

jaybert

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sorry, but I dont think he is looking to purchase an oc3 for his own use. Looks like he is interested in co-locating his box in a datacenter. This can run anywhere from a couple hundred a month to a few thousand, depending on how many U his server is (your server will have to be rackmount btw), what sort of bandwidth he wants (both sustained and burst).

Other considerations is the number of backbone connections that data center has, and what sort of redundancy they offer. Like almost everything, all data centers are not created equal. Data centers next door from each other than can very greatly in the pings that your users will receive depending on the number of routes available.