Question Looking for a gpu for budget build, 1080p monitor, light gaming, need help!

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I am stumped, don't know anything about gpus, only putting one in this build for my youngster to play some kid games. Is there a difference in brands or is it really just the card chip? Would the RX570 4gb be a good choice or is there something under $125 better suited for my build like maybe a GTX1060 6gb (don't know if that one is good or not?)
 
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If you can afford a little extra you can go for this RX5500XT 4GB that is currently at $150 with $20 rebate.
It also comes with RE3, Ghost Recon and XBOX game pass.


Otherwise the RX570 is fine at $130.
 
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Better than a GTX1060?
you can not buy a new GTX 1060 6GB anymore. You'd have to go used, which is always a gamble. I mean if its not been used in minning, its probably good and its likely to last you at least few years, but you never know.

They do go pretty cheap on ebay used, around $100, but I don't know if you'd like to go that route. In terms of being able to buy a new card with warranty, its basically the RX 470 which is amazing value right now. The RX 5500xt the guy above mentiod can be a solid option for just $150.
 

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Honestly, I would be VERY suspect buying "generic" NVidia-based GPU video cards. Many of the ones coming from China are outright FAKES. That appears to be a USA seller, but I still don't trust that listing. It could be he's reselling one of those China-made cards.

Stick to Newegg (also on ebay), Amazon, BestBuy (best_buy on ebay), B&H Photo Video, and a few others.

The GTX 1060 6GB cards (real ones) are a tiny bit faster than an RX 570, supposedly, but slower than an RX 580. They also only have 6GB of VRAM, whereas the RX 570/580 come in both 4GB and 8GB varieties. (And Sapphire makes a 16GB RX 570 for mining purposes.)

I don't know much about the RX 5500 XT (4GB and 8GB models), other than those are the 7nm replacements for the RX 570 and RX 580 (for the most part). In some really modern games, they are significantly faster (being Navi over Polaris).

If I could get an RX 5500 XT as mentioned, for $150, that would seem to me to be a good choice. (@ Newegg or @ Amazon, or maybe BestBuy or B&H).
 
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I am stumped, don't know anything about gpus, only putting one in this build for my youngster to play some kid games. Is there a difference in brands or is it really just the card chip? Would the RX570 4gb be a good choice or is there something under $125 better suited for my build like maybe a GTX1060 6gb (don't know if that one is good or not?)
Your build isn't too bad for what you need. The question that needs asking is what games are going to be played. That will help us recommend a GPU that's a good fit.

An RX 570 4GB is not the best choice but is adequate for light gaming, especially older titles. I played Doom 2016 at ultra using an Asus Strix RX 570 4GB, using the Vulcan API and it was excellent at 1080P (150 FPS). An RX580 8GB would be a better choice.
 
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RX 5500XT is probably the go to card right now for 1080P. GTX 1060 on the used market are so expensive, its absurd. The 5500XT looks a bit faster than a GTX 1650 Super in most stuff as well, while being prices similar to the 1650 non super.
 

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I agree an 8GB RX 580 is a great choice if the price isn't too high, that or get an 8GB 5500XT. If considering good priced used cards, I would look at Fury, RX 480 8 GB, 390(X), 1060 6GB, 1070, 290(X). I fear the used market isn't as good as it used to be though, due to shortages.
 

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I am stumped, don't know anything about gpus, only putting one in this build for my youngster to play some kid games. Is there a difference in brands or is it really just the card chip? Would the RX570 4gb be a good choice or is there something under $125 better suited for my build like maybe a GTX1060 6gb (don't know if that one is good or not?)
That 1060 is faker than a $3 bill.
 

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That 1060 is faker than a $3 bill.
agreed, that is a fake card. I scoured the internet when I was researching whether to buy 1060 6gb or rx 480 8gb and I've never seen that cooler on a 1060 6gb. Its either some local Chinese brand that no one's heard of, or most likely a fake.
 

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You can get great value out of used. A few months ago I snagged an RX 470 4GB for $62 shipped. Over a year ago I was able to get a couple of GTX 1060 3GB for under ~85 shipped. Both of these cards are good enough for 1080p gaming, producing suitable framerates. I would advise getting a 4GB card though, as there are a few instances where the 3GB was getting hit. But at 1080p, I was able to fluidly play Star Wars Fallen Order, COD: Modern Warfare, Gears 5, Forza Horizon Horizon 4, and Middle Earth: Shadow of War.

Will the i3-9100f bottleneck any of these gpus?
Rarely. You'll encounter frametime issues in more newer games. Older games (>2 years) should be fine. You can still get a playable experience if you're willing to tweak. But a 4 core/8 thread or 6 core/6 thread processor is the minimum processor you want going forward the next few years.
 
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You can get great value out of used. A few months ago I snagged an RX 470 4GB for $62 shipped. Over a year ago I was able to get a couple of GTX 1060 3GB for under ~85 shipped. Both of these cards are good enough for 1080p gaming, producing suitable framerates. I would advise getting a 4GB card though, as there are a few instances where the 3GB was getting hit. But at 1080p, I was able to fluidly play Star Wars Fallen Order, COD: Modern Warfare, Gears 5, Forza Horizon Horizon 4, and Middle Earth: Shadow of War.


Rarely. You'll encounter frametime issues in more newer games. Older games (>2 years) should be fine. You can still get a playable experience if you're willing to tweak. But a 4 core/8 thread or 6 core/6 thread processor is the minimum processor you want going forward the next few years.
Even 4C/8T starting getting iffy by 2019. RDR2 hates 4C/8T for example. Shadow of the Tomb Raider too. One of the big reasons I'm not all that motivated to get a gpu for my PC after my GTX 970 died, because I'll need to do a platform upgrade from my Xeon E3-1231v3 + Z97 + 16GB DDR3-2400 to at least Ryzen 5 3600 + X570 (I'll want the PCIE-4.0 SSD support since it'll be in the consoles) + 16GB DDR4-3600 to get decent usage out of anything RTX 2060 Super level or better. Even at medium settings my 4C/8T Xeon E3-1231v3 (basically i7-4770 minus 100 MHz and with no igpu) bottlenecked my GTX 970 hard in SOTR at 1080p.
 

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Your build isn't too bad for what you need. The question that needs asking is what games are going to be played. That will help us recommend a GPU that's a good fit.

An RX 570 4GB is not the best choice but is adequate for light gaming, especially older titles. I played Doom 2016 at ultra using an Asus Strix RX 570 4GB, using the Vulcan API and it was excellent at 1080P (150 FPS). An RX580 8GB would be a better choice.
Currently, it'd be used for my young child's gameplay, no fps etc; I am interested in finding games that we can play together, my 43" nec monitor is 1080p so am thinking a 4gb card is probably enough. There's not a lot of price difference between on the low end:
ASRock Phantom Gaming D Radeon RX 570 DirectX 12 RX570 4G
XFX RX 570 4GB GDDR5 RS XXX Edition
MSI Radeon RX 580 DirectX 12 RX 580 8GT 8GB
ASRock Challenger D Radeon RX 5500 XT 4GB
And I see some new in box name brand gtx1060 3gb & 6gb on eBay but will see what they go for when auctions end, am thinking under $150.
 
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That 1060 is faker than a $3 bill.
yea it does look pretty fake to me also, Maybe its a generic photo but most likely its fake,
this one you could prob get for 130 shipped with best offer, i have purchased a few used 1060's from the forums for about 100 shipped but like others hav esaid its a bad time to purchase parts ;(
 

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Currently, it'd be used for my young child's gameplay, no fps etc; I am interested in finding games that we can play together, my 43" nec monitor is 1080p so am thinking a 4gb card is probably enough. There's not a lot of price difference between on the low end:
ASRock Phantom Gaming D Radeon RX 570 DirectX 12 RX570 4G
XFX RX 570 4GB GDDR5 RS XXX Edition
MSI Radeon RX 580 DirectX 12 RX 580 8GT 8GB
ASRock Challenger D Radeon RX 5500 XT 4GB
And I see some new in box name brand gtx1060 3gb & 6gb on eBay but will see what they go for when auctions end, am thinking under $150.
If there will be no demanding games then the RX580 8GB will work perfectly. A decent used one can be a great card but be careful with former mining cards. They may require a firmware flash to factory firmware to work properly.
 

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I would rather buy new, gpus often are used pretty hard; and is there any benefit to 8gb on a 1080p monitor? Not going to be doing any extreme gaming. Am noob to gpus, when my pc is running but not gaming etc, is the gpu using extra wattage. since the cpu won't have integrated graphics? I leave it on 24/7 out here, doubles as htpc and convenient computer--easy if I have an idea or if a guest is over to have it available out here.
 

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5500XT 4GB can be problematic on PCIe 3 when it runs out of VRAM (due to only being x8 PCIe), the 1650 Super 4GB doesn't have that issue. 5500XT 8GB is within 1-2% either way of the 1650 Super and both are faster than the 4GB 5500XT.

This covers the 1060, 570, 580, 1650,1650 Super, 5500XT (4GB + 8GB) among others: https://www.computerbase.de/2019-12/amd-radeon-rx-5500-xt-test/2/#abschnitt_benchmarks_in_1920__1080
The PCI-3 3.0 thing was a bit blown out of proportion. It only happens in games that want more than 4GB of VRAM. Which in itself means the game settings need to be lowered. I gamed for years with a 4GB RX480 and never really had any VRAM related issues, and it is something I would track as I was curious how much memory games were using. Oh, and this was with a 1080P monitor. Personally I would not hesitate to getting a 4GB 5500XT if I was in the market for such a card.
 
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The PCI-3 3.0 thing was a bit blown out of proportion. It only happens in games that want more than 4GB of VRAM. Which in itself means the game settings need to be lowered. I gamed for years with a 4GB RX480 and never really had any VRAM related issues, and it is something I would track as I was curious how much memory games were using. Oh, and this was with a 1080P monitor. Personally I would not hesitate to getting a 4GB 5500XT if I was in the market for such a card.
The RX480 has a PCIe x16 link compared to the x8 link on the 5500XT. On PCIe 3 the 1650 Super is a better buy than the 5500XT 4GB.

 

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Just to point out that with latest drivers the RX5500XT 4GB is faster than RX580 and almost equal to GTX1650 Ultra Super.
At $150 is the best buy.

Bellow video has a RX5500XT 4GB with PCIe 3.0

 
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Just to point out that with latest drivers the RX5500XT 4GB is faster than RX580 and almost equal to GTX1650 Ultra.
At $150 is the best buy.

Bellow video has a RX5500XT 4GB with PCIe 3.0

Personally I'd take the Gigaybte 1650 Super at $160 without rebate vs the AsRock 5500XT at $170 with $20 MIR to drop it to $150 later if the 1650S is at all faster.
 

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Personally I'd take the Gigaybte 1650 Super at $160 without rebate vs the AsRock 5500XT at $170 with $20 MIR to drop it to $150 later if the 1650S is at all faster.
From the bellow Video (3 weeks old) the RX5500XT 4GB is faster vs the GTX1650 Super in 9 out of 11 games (Test system Intel Z390 PCIe 3.0)
Also the RX5500XT comes with two games (RE3 and Ghost Recon) and after the rebate it is $10 cheaper.

Well, after all those above there is no doubt that the RX5500XT at $150 (after rebate) is the better buy.

 

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From the bellow Video (3 weeks old) the RX5500XT 4GB is faster vs the GTX1650 Super in 9 out of 11 games (Test system Intel Z390 PCIe 3.0)
Also the RX5500XT comes with two games (RE3 and Ghost Recon) and after the rebate it is $10 cheaper.

Well, after all those above there is no doubt that the RX5500XT at $150 (after rebate) is the better buy.

Your post made it sound like it the 5500XT 4GB was still below the 1650S so I was going off that. Figured you slipped up and meant 1650 Super when you wrote 1650 Ultra and hence why I said "if 1650S is at all faster."
 

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