Looking for a 1337 gaming mouse for big hands

fustercluck

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My mouse is breaking down, and it really sucks having a mouse that's semi-broken. So I want to get a new mouse quickly, can someone recommend a really good gaming mouse? I have big hands...if that matters. Probably looking for a wired mouse (better for gaming, right?), but I would consider wireless. Thanks.

How's the Logitech G5? It's $35 at best buy right now. I'm used to mice that are too small for my hand anyways.
 

RallyMaster

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MX518....pretty big mouse if you ask me... I personally think the G5 laser thing is a gimmick, but if you can get it for $35, go for it.
 

fustercluck

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Originally posted by: RallyMaster
MX518....pretty big mouse if you ask me... I personally think the G5 laser thing is a gimmick, but if you can get it for $35, go for it.


The laser is a gimmick? I'm not arguing, I just want to know why you think that. I've been using laser mice for years.
 

Ika

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Originally posted by: Adaman
Originally posted by: RallyMaster
MX518....pretty big mouse if you ask me... I personally think the G5 laser thing is a gimmick, but if you can get it for $35, go for it.


The laser is a gimmick? I'm not arguing, I just want to know why you think that. I've been using laser mice for years.

A lot of people probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a laser and a good optical (say, G5 and an MX518). I know I couldn't. Heck, I could barely tell the difference going from a ball mouse to an optical mouse (I jumped about... 6 months ago, I could care less if I went back :)).
 

RallyMaster

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I tried out the G5 at Fry's and then came back and opened up the MX518. I honestly could find no difference in the usage. The fact that a bunch of people called me a hacker in CS: Source Deathmatch in the first trial run of this mouse (I don't hack...but I get headshots like a madman) says it's an amazing mouse.

EDIT: After 2 hours of fragging people, my hands are very comfortable (and without pain).
 

fustercluck

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Thanks for the help. I ended up finding a G5 at bestbuy for the sale price of $35.99. It was a huge pain to get it, even though it shouldn't have been, but at least I got it. Damned incompetant best buy/Circuit City employees. I tried to get it at a couple of different Circuit City stores and pricematch to bestbuy but they wouldn't let me do it, they said no local best buy's had it in stock so they couldnt price match, and they were both rude. I wasn't surprised to walk into best buy and find it right there on the shelf.

I've had real bad luck at Circuit City lately, going to try and avoid it at all costs in the future.
 

fustercluck

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Not quite, pretty close though :p - I can one hand grip a basketball just not wave it around a whole lot.

Liking this G5 pretty well, even though it's the same size as my mx512 or whatever i had before. The middle mouse button kinda sucks though.
 

inveterate

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I love my 518. No middle button problem. I can hit 1000hz easy. and it is easy to lighten this thing.
 

Xyclone

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I love my G5. Laser, adjustable weight cartridge, fabric cord, cool design, sensitivity switching on the fly, tilt wheel, etc.
 

inveterate

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Originally posted by: spaceclamjr
http://www.esreality.com/?a=longpost&id=1265679&page=22
i use an MX500 with a usbport oc'd to 1000hz
notice that all laser mice perform poorly except the fatal1ty 2020
laser is just immature at this time, but has potential to blow away finely tuned optical mice
i suggest everyone read through that before buying a laser mouse

Okkkkk.. Those benchmarks are such Bull ******. Completely not scientific. First they say: "oh we're not hard on User opinion but experimental fact." Then they put up graphs that are completely based on opinion on "THEIR awareness of what is or is not important in a game"

MX500 at 1000hz is ****** compared to most newer mouse at 1000hz. i've used the 518, G5, DiamondBack all at 1000hz. And they are all very accurate and responsive. I've had an MX500 and only used the 500hz patch back then, but there is no doubt that the three other mice listed above outperforms it in accuracy.

The author is obviously A newb. Because the 518 Does in fact work at 1000hz perfectly. on my system and there is a noticable difference from 125hz (default) to 1000hz. That tidbit is just so i know it's working. But the control is near perfection.
 

spaceclamjr

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i fail to see how a report like that with supporting evidence isn't scientific
...instead of a flame post, try coming back with something more substantial, maybe even constructive input to a thread
 

Ages120

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Going to a store is always the best option when getting a new keyboard or mouse. Circuit City and Best Buy employees are almost always incompetent. Trying to get them to figure out their sales event or promotion never turns out well. Most of the time when you mention it the first thing they say is I haven't heard of that let me get my manager or boss then it just gets worse if they come back at all.

Also good choice on getting Logitech best RMA and warranties of any of the peripheral makers.
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: inveterate
Originally posted by: spaceclamjr
http://www.esreality.com/?a=longpost&id=1265679&page=22
i use an MX500 with a usbport oc'd to 1000hz
notice that all laser mice perform poorly except the fatal1ty 2020
laser is just immature at this time, but has potential to blow away finely tuned optical mice
i suggest everyone read through that before buying a laser mouse

Okkkkk.. Those benchmarks are such Bull ******. Completely not scientific. First they say: "oh we're not hard on User opinion but experimental fact." Then they put up graphs that are completely based on opinion on "THEIR awareness of what is or is not important in a game"
What is their "awareness" of what is important in a game?

What's wrong with their "awareness"?
 

bunnyfubbles

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Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: inveterate
Originally posted by: spaceclamjr
http://www.esreality.com/?a=longpost&id=1265679&page=22
i use an MX500 with a usbport oc'd to 1000hz
notice that all laser mice perform poorly except the fatal1ty 2020
laser is just immature at this time, but has potential to blow away finely tuned optical mice
i suggest everyone read through that before buying a laser mouse

Okkkkk.. Those benchmarks are such Bull ******. Completely not scientific. First they say: "oh we're not hard on User opinion but experimental fact." Then they put up graphs that are completely based on opinion on "THEIR awareness of what is or is not important in a game"
What is their "awareness" of what is important in a game?

What's wrong with their "awareness"?

They assume you're a wigged out swiper who uses a 4ft sq mouse pad and completely misunderstand the purpose of DPI/CPI whatever you want to call it.
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: inveterate
Originally posted by: spaceclamjr
http://www.esreality.com/?a=longpost&id=1265679&page=22
i use an MX500 with a usbport oc'd to 1000hz
notice that all laser mice perform poorly except the fatal1ty 2020
laser is just immature at this time, but has potential to blow away finely tuned optical mice
i suggest everyone read through that before buying a laser mouse

Okkkkk.. Those benchmarks are such Bull ******. Completely not scientific. First they say: "oh we're not hard on User opinion but experimental fact." Then they put up graphs that are completely based on opinion on "THEIR awareness of what is or is not important in a game"
What is their "awareness" of what is important in a game?

What's wrong with their "awareness"?

They assume you're a wigged out swiper who uses a 4ft sq mouse pad and completely misunderstand the purpose of DPI/CPI whatever you want to call it.
Well, what is the purpose of dpi? At first glance, I don't see anything wrong with their math.
 

bunnyfubbles

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Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: inveterate
Originally posted by: spaceclamjr
http://www.esreality.com/?a=longpost&id=1265679&page=22
i use an MX500 with a usbport oc'd to 1000hz
notice that all laser mice perform poorly except the fatal1ty 2020
laser is just immature at this time, but has potential to blow away finely tuned optical mice
i suggest everyone read through that before buying a laser mouse

Okkkkk.. Those benchmarks are such Bull ******. Completely not scientific. First they say: "oh we're not hard on User opinion but experimental fact." Then they put up graphs that are completely based on opinion on "THEIR awareness of what is or is not important in a game"
What is their "awareness" of what is important in a game?

What's wrong with their "awareness"?

They assume you're a wigged out swiper who uses a 4ft sq mouse pad and completely misunderstand the purpose of DPI/CPI whatever you want to call it.
Well, what is the purpose of dpi? At first glance, I don't see anything wrong with their math.

The review treats DPI as a way to increase pointer speed, which is only true if you do not adjust your pointer speed when you increase the DPI up from a the average 800. Higher DPI offers a higher resolution and a more accurate translation of your moving the mouse to the moving of the pointer on the screen. A separate setting - correctly called "pointer speed" within Windows itself or sometimes confusingly called "pointer sensitivity" within mouse drivers - is used to adjust the speed your pointer moves no matter what DPI setting you have locked in.

The confusion about DPI changing pointer speed comes from the buttons on these so called gaming mice being able to change the DPI on the fly. However if you change the DPI without changing the specific pointer speed setting you're going to end up with a changed pointer speed because of the changed DPI. Thus the ability to change DPI on the fly is largely used a sort of dirty or lazy way of changing pointer speed.

With my lazer based Razer Copperhead, I never change it off of 2000 DPI @ 1000Hz. Instead of changing DPI, I use the driver's specific "on-the-fly" sensitivity adjustment which I can setup in the driver control panel. This has the same effect of changing DPI except for the fact I keep the accuracy of 2000 DPI no matter what pointer sensitivity (speed) I choose.

That review completely disregards such abilities which is why they end up crowning an inferior 800 DPI MX500 not just as the price performance leader but as the performance leader period. This is absolutely false, at least for me (although I'm sure I'm not part of a minority here) as I have the similar MX510 yet personal experience tells me my Copperhead is clearly the better mouse.
 

Pr0d1gy

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I've got an MX518 and huge hands. It feels a little small after a few hours, but it has a lot better feel than the Razer I had before it. I would love for someone to put out an XL version of one of the more popular mice that is out now for us big guys.
 

spaceclamjr

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it seems like this person has a personal problem with the website, not so much as what they're saying
/endthread
 

MikeyC

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Originally posted by: Pr0d1gy
I've got an MX518 and huge hands. It feels a little small after a few hours, but it has a lot better feel than the Razer I had before it. I would love for someone to put out an XL version of one of the more popular mice that is out now for us big guys.

Amen. I was used to and loved my Logitech MX 1000 but the battery was starting to go and it was getting pretty beat up after two years of constant use, so I slapped down $100 for the new MX Revolution.

Not comfortable. The way I hold it, my thumb curls uncomfortaby under my hand, and if I hold it so that my thunmb isn't doing that, my pinkie and ring finger trail on the mouse mat which is uncomfortable also. I can palm a basketball and wave it around so I guess that means I have pretty big hands...

I was really dissapointed with the Revolution for having such poor ergonomics; they should have kept the size of the MX 1000 for us bigger-handed folks but I guess if you are "normal" or have small hands then it's a pretty decent mouse, even though I couldn't get it to configure correctly for FPS games anyway.

I'm off to Fry's to exchange it for a different one, I'll try the 518 but I'm not stoked about going back to a wired mouse after all these years of wireless...