Looking back, iPhone Gen 1 Keynote

[MrX8503]

Since this is the first iPhone keynote where Steve won't be present, or at least not presenting the iPhone, I thought it'd be cool to look at the first keynote.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftf4riVJyqw

I think Steve Jobs was almost correct in saying that the iPhone was 5yrs ahead of the competition. The iPhone1 was released in 2007, 2012 would make 5 years. Late 2011 was when Android finally got their ducks in a row to compete. Its funny to see the crowd being blown away by slide to unlock, pinch to zoom, finger scroll, and an "internet communicator". Whats that? lol

I'm pretty excited for the iPhone5 keynote even though only ever watching the iPhone4 keynote and not the past presentations. I have my suspicions that it'll only be an iPhone4S, but I'm still excited nonetheless, given the amount of impact the iPhone has had on the smartphone industry. Looking at the first keynote definitely puts things in perspective. The UI hasn't changed all that much, which is a testament to its design.

Here's another good video. Steve Ballmer doubting the iPhone and said that the MotoQ is just as good. I think this is important, as it shows that even giants may fall if they fail to innovate. I think it also shows that its not about what the devices can do, its HOW they can do them well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eywi0h_Y5_U

 

[pm]

Since this is the first iPhone keynote where Steve won't be present, or at least not presenting the iPhone, I thought it'd be cool to look at the first keynote.

I think the Verizon iPhone was just Tim Cook.

I think Steve Jobs was almost correct in saying that the iPhone was 5yrs ahead of the competition. The iPhone1 was released in 2007, 2012 would make 5 years. Late 2011 was when Android finally got their ducks in a row to compete. Its funny to see the crowd being blown away by slide to unlock, pinch to zoom, finger scroll, and an "internet communicator". Whats that? lol]

According to my calendar, it's not even late 2011 now... and I would hardly say than Android is finally able to compete now. Android has more marketshare than the iPhone... at what point does the competition start? If we were talking about Windows Mobile, Blackberry, or Symbian, I could understand your comment, but saying that Android will finally be able to compete later this year or next... it almost seems ludicrous to me.

Steve Job's comments often tend to rub me wrong. I simultaneously admire his charisma and his vision, while also disliking his tendency toward hyperbole and overstatement. I honestly don't like watching him... he annoys me. But I can understand what you are saying.

But I am curious what the iPhone 5 will look like. I'll stick to the Engadget Live Blog.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Since this is the first iPhone keynote where Steve won't be present, or at least not presenting the iPhone, I thought it'd be cool to look at the first keynote.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftf4riVJyqw

I think Steve Jobs was almost correct in saying that the iPhone was 5yrs ahead of the competition. The iPhone1 was released in 2007, 2012 would make 5 years. Late 2011 was when Android finally got their ducks in a row to compete. Its funny to see the crowd being blown away by slide to unlock, pinch to zoom, finger scroll, and an "internet communicator". Whats that? lol

I'm pretty excited for the iPhone5 keynote even though only ever watching the iPhone4 keynote and not the past presentations. I have my suspicions that it'll only be an iPhone4S, but I'm still excited nonetheless, given the amount of impact the iPhone has had on the smartphone industry. Looking at the first keynote definitely puts things in perspective. The UI hasn't changed all that much, which is a testament to its design.

Here's another good video. Steve Ballmer doubting the iPhone and said that the MotoQ is just as good. I think this is important, as it shows that even giants may fall if they fail to innovate. I think it also shows that its not about what the devices can do, its HOW they can do them well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eywi0h_Y5_U

Hows that Appleaide?
Android has been competing and kicking iPhones butt for a bit now. But post like yours is why iPhone is a success. The Apple fans are excited and ready to buy something just because it has an Apple on it. Not all but a lot of them seem to buy it just because it the thing to do.

 

[MrX8503]

According to my calendar, it's not even late 2011 now... and I would hardly say than Android is finally able to compete now. Android has more marketshare than the iPhone... at what point does the competition start? If we were talking about Windows Mobile, Blackberry, or Symbian, I could understand your comment, but saying that Android will finally be able to compete later this year or next... it almost seems ludicrous to me.

Its the 10th month of the year, I'd say thats Late 2011. I also don't think Steve Jobs was talking about marketshare because the iPhone1 had a marketshare of zero when he's talking about being 5 years ahead.

I think he's talking about being 5 years ahead in tech on a software/hardware level. I would say that's mostly true as the only device to marry the two seamlessly is the SGSII. Early Android devices weren't all that impressive, everything felt beta-like.

Hows that Appleaide?
Android has been competing and kicking iPhones butt for a bit now. But post like yours is why iPhone is a success. The Apple fans are excited and ready to buy something just because it has an Apple on it. Not all but a lot of them seem to buy it just because it the thing to do.

I didn't say anywhere in my post that I'd buy it. I wouldn't buy it if its just a 4S. If you call "kicking butt" a laggy UI, then yes, Android has been doing that very well. IMO, the early Android devices were only ok, the new ones are impressive however.

 

[finbarqs]

wow, apple does do a lot of revolutionary stuff... if it weren't for iphone, we'd still be stuck in the archaic ages of touchscreen phone systems, without pinch zoom, without accelerometers, without capacitive screens (which was imminent i suppose) and things will still be sluggish...

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Its the 10th month of the year, I'd say thats Late 2011. I also don't think Steve Jobs was talking about marketshare because the iPhone1 had a marketshare of zero when he's talking about being 5 years ahead.

I think he's talking about being 5 years ahead in tech on a software/hardware level. I would say that's mostly true as the only device to marry the two seamlessly is the SGSII. Early Android devices weren't all that impressive, everything felt beta-like.



I didn't say anywhere in my post that I'd buy it. I wouldn't buy it if its just a 4S. If you call "kicking butt" a laggy UI, then yes, Android has been doing that very well. IMO, the early Android devices were only ok, the new ones are impressive however.

What is Android market share/ vs iPhone? Something like 50% Android/ 20% iPhone. That's a fairly good butt kicking. You seem stuck on defending the "user experience" that Apple sold you. I'm just stating the truth, that Android has had a sizable lead in market share sooner than your iPhone being 5 years ahead of anyone else BS. Their hardware was hardly 5 years ahead. I'll give them that their marketing was 5 years ahead, because that's what they need to sell products. Gloss over the capabilities or outright lie about their innovation, and instead sell a lifestyle.

 

[MrX8503]

What is Android market share/ vs iPhone? Something like 50% Android/ 20% iPhone. That's a fairly good butt kicking. You seem stuck on defending the "user experience" that Apple sold you. I'm just stating the truth, that Android has had a sizable lead in market share sooner than your iPhone being 5 years ahead of anyone else BS. Their hardware was hardly 5 years ahead. I'll give them that their marketing was 5 years ahead, because that's what they need to sell products. Gloss over the capabilities or outright lie about their innovation, and instead sell a lifestyle.

Steve Jobs wasn't talking about marketshare when he said 5yrs ahead because the iPhone had a market share of zero when he said that. He's referring to software/hardware at the time and looking back he was mostly right in those claims.

 

[AstroManLuca]

The original iPhone didn't even have an app store until it was released in July 2008 along with the iPhone 3G. I wouldn't say that it has taken Android five years to catch up. Unless your implication is that a brand new Android phone like the SGS II is equal in quality to an original iPhone without 3G connectivity and no apps.

I'll agree that the iPhone and 3G were definitely superior to their Android counterparts. I'd definitely take one over a MyTouch or something. I'd say the 3GS was the first one that hit up against stiff competition from the Droid and EVO.

 

[Deeko]

Here's another good video. Steve Ballmer doubting the iPhone and said that the MotoQ is just as good. I think this is important, as it shows that even giants may fall if they fail to innovate. I think it also shows that its not about what the devices can do, its HOW they can do them well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eywi0h_Y5_U

That Ballmer video has been shown a lot over the past several years, but people need to actually listen to what he says - he has valid points. His biggest balking point was at the price - and while they moved some units and generated a lot of buzz with the original iPhone 1, it wasn't until they dropped the price to more reasonable levels with the 3G that it really took off.

 

[akugami]

What is Android market share/ vs iPhone? Something like 50% Android/ 20% iPhone. That's a fairly good butt kicking. You seem stuck on defending the "user experience" that Apple sold you. I'm just stating the truth, that Android has had a sizable lead in market share sooner than your iPhone being 5 years ahead of anyone else BS. Their hardware was hardly 5 years ahead. I'll give them that their marketing was 5 years ahead, because that's what they need to sell products. Gloss over the capabilities or outright lie about their innovation, and instead sell a lifestyle.

Stop sipping the Android Kool Aid for a sec there bud. You do realize that with smaller share, Apple makes a crap ton of money? Last report I heard, they made as much in money off of their iPhone as every Android maker combined.

There are things that Android does better. There are things that Apple does better. From a pure business standpoint, both platforms are doing incredible well but Apple's iPhone is doing much much better. Every CEO of every Android OEM would trade in their mothers for Apple's profit margins.

That Ballmer video has been shown a lot over the past several years, but people need to actually listen to what he says - he has valid points. His biggest balking point was at the price - and while they moved some units and generated a lot of buzz with the original iPhone 1, it wasn't until they dropped the price to more reasonable levels with the 3G that it really took off.

Agreed. Ballmer gets made fun of, it's just too easy. Developers. Developers. Developers. But he's intelligent and he does make a lot of good points. I think his problem is he's not a charismatic leader and he's not as good with the press IMHO.