Look what Tom's hardware says about cpus!!!

[MagicaJuve]

I need some help,please!
Does "Tom's hardware" site have any "connections" with Intel?
I wanna upgrade my computer,i don't know what to buy,Intel or Amd,and i visited Tom's Hardware!
There are some cpu testing (the new P4 fsb800 vs Xp) and it's a bit srange for me.For example,in Quake3,P4 2,4C is better than Xp3200+.In Comanche4,
P4 2,6C is better than Xp 3200+.
Anyone's conclusion after reading this article is that the new P4 is the write choice when buying a cpu(when not thinking at money,of course).
I saw other benchmark,in another site,and saw that P4 2,6C is comparable with XP2800+. Tom's hardware says that XP3200+ is comparable with P4 2,6-2,8C.
I dont know what to think about Tom's hardware!!!That's why i'm asking you!

 

[McArra]

I don't like Tom's neither. It's true that Intel performs better in most of the tests but I believe not in such amount. In gaming XPs and Intels aren't that far. XP3200=2,8C and sometimes 3,0C, I think.

 

[Creig]

Don't get yourself worked up over anything you read over at Tom I-am-a-computer-God Pabst's website. He talks as if he's the end-all be-all know-it-all hardware king and he's not even close.

If you want to read informative, well-written articles you need go no farther than the AnandTech homepage and start browing the articles. Then come back here to the forums and start reading some more about what people have to say. Eventually you'll be able to figure out for yourself which upgrade path is best for you.

 

[Evdawg]

personally... i know intel is better than amd... its all about what you wanna spend... my 2500 barton does me great, especially on a 300 mhz OC, and im not even pushing it. If youre a wealthy man and u want a nice cpu.. go intel, and get ripped off...... if you want ABOUT the same cpu for a ton less.. go amd. And amd is sexier than intel . Thats my 2 cents

 

[TerryMathews]

They're about the same dollar for dollar, excluding those amazing OCers from both sides.

AMD has cheaper lower-end processors, Intel has faster processors if you've got money to burn. Middle of the road, though they're about the same.

Of course, you can't use P4s in SMP like you can AthlonXPs. Cheap duallys.

 

[SickBeast]

Tom's hardware says alot of useless junk that the vulgar masses consider to be the gospel.

I remember when the 9700 came out, and Dr. Tom called it the "pretender to the throne". He's just a silly journalist out to make some money any way he can.

 

[MagicaJuve]

I saw all the tests there,i did some calculations and the conclusion is that P4 2,8c is better with 15% than XP2800+.
In my country,XP2800+ is 90% cheaper than 2,8C.
If i would have a lot of money,i would buy Intel,but for me,that i use the computer for gaming,web browsing and music,i dont think it's worth to pay 90% more for 15% boost in performance!

 

[SickBeast]

90% cheaper? Where are you from? I want some.

 

[MagicaJuve]

You can't buy.Because i'm from Romania.
P4 2,8c=322$
XP 2800+=172$
What are the prices in your country?
Buying Xp ,for me,it's a smart choice,isn't it?

 

[MDE]

Not meaning to threadjack or anything, but I've never actually seen an article on Tom's written by anyone named TOM. They all tend to be rough translations from German, heck, they can't even seem to translate "Readion" to Radeon.

 

[orion7144]

Originally posted by: MagicaJuve
You can't buy.Because i'm from Romania.
P4 2,8c=322$
XP 2800+=172$
What are the prices in your country?
Buying Xp ,for me,it's a smart choice,isn't it?

When you guys talk about this you should be talking apples to apples...

We all know that the AMD rating scheem is a joke and the 2800 does not come close to the performance of the 2.8C. You can show me all the bench's that you want but the HT enabled processors are faster. Not to mention that a 2.4C for ~$160 will do 3.2-3.4 gig pretty easy on stock cooling there is no contest with the current XP processors.

 

[VisableAssassin]

Originally posted by: orion7144

Originally posted by: MagicaJuve
You can't buy.Because i'm from Romania.
P4 2,8c=322$
XP 2800+=172$
What are the prices in your country?
Buying Xp ,for me,it's a smart choice,isn't it?

When you guys talk about this you should be talking apples to apples...

We all know that the AMD rating scheem is a joke and the 2800 does not come close to the performance of the 2.8C. You can show me all the bench's that you want but the HT enabled processors are faster. Not to mention that a 2.4C for ~$160 will do 3.2-3.4 gig pretty easy on stock cooling there is no contest with the current XP processors.

umm i think your forgetting something AMDS rating scheme is not meant to be compared to intels chips a 2800+ is supposed to the same or nearlyt he same performance and a 2.8ghz t-bird or what the hell ever it was they based this off of it was never ment to be compared to intel.
and as for HT yeah with it enabled P4's can give any AMD setup a good run for its money but does AMD run HT? no and with out HT a P4 has a pretty weak IPC which is why youll see a lower clocked athlon beating out a higher clocked P4 at certain benchmarks. if yoru gonna preach apples to apples then ditch the HT rambling and go with what each CPU can do not what one can do and the other cant.

 

[Creig]

We all know that the AMD rating scheem is a joke and the 2800 does not come close to the performance of the 2.8C.

Actually, no, only Intel fanboys like you believe this. Hold on a sec and I'll give you some links to benchmarks that prove they're close in overall performance.

You can show me all the bench's that you want but the HT enabled processors are faster.

Oh, I'm sorry, I guess you don't want to get confused with actual FACTS and would rather just spout off meaningless babble.

 

[Shimmishim]

blah blah blah another intel vs amd thread....



both are great processors ... barton ... p4 ... whatever...

i think it's just a matter of personal preference and what you use your cpus for...

i think most people will agree that the p4's are better at media encoding than per se the amd's but the amd's are better at other things...

both have strengths and weaknesses....

let's just all agree to disagree...

 

[McArra]

Originally posted by: Shimmishim
blah blah blah another intel vs amd thread....



both are great processors ... barton ... p4 ... whatever...

i think it's just a matter of personal preference and what you use your cpus for...

i think most people will agree that the p4's are better at media encoding than per se the amd's but the amd's are better at other things...

both have strengths and weaknesses....

let's just all agree to disagree...

 

[Mickey21]

Originally posted by: Shimmishim
blah blah blah another intel vs amd thread....



both are great processors ... barton ... p4 ... whatever...

i think it's just a matter of personal preference and what you use your cpus for...

i think most people will agree that the p4's are better at media encoding than per se the amd's but the amd's are better at other things...

both have strengths and weaknesses....

let's just all agree to disagree...

agree...

 

[mechBgon]

Originally posted by: orion7144

Originally posted by: MagicaJuve
You can't buy.Because i'm from Romania.
P4 2,8c=322$
XP 2800+=172$
What are the prices in your country?
Buying Xp ,for me,it's a smart choice,isn't it?

When you guys talk about this you should be talking apples to apples...

We all know that the AMD rating scheem is a joke and the 2800 does not come close to the performance of the 2.8C. You can show me all the bench's that you want but the HT enabled processors are faster. Not to mention that a 2.4C for ~$160 will do 3.2-3.4 gig pretty easy on stock cooling there is no contest with the current XP processors.

Hyperthreading is unfortunately the realm of the WinXP users. Win2000 is not a recommended OS for HT, according to Intel. Our business fleet is solid Win2000 and will likely remain so for several more years, so there goes that enticement to me at the professional level. That's too bad, because one of the areas where I could envision it being really useful is to reduce the impact of our daily antivirus scan (runs at lunchtime, but you know those darn users, working through lunch ).

Of course, SCSI is the right tool for the job if you want to get anything done while a virus scan is blasting away on your hard drive. I'm planning to concoct a few SCSI-equipped systems for a handful of my heavy users this fiscal year, if the funds can be scavenged up. Over the long run, it'll pay for itself.