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I believe they are Desert boots...They have been around for quite awhile... I remember hearing they were in short supply during Desert Storm...

Dave
 
They're suede desert boots that are worn with the DCUs (Desert Combat Uniform, also nicknamed "chocolate chips" for obvious reasons). Black boots would get too hot in desert environments and be impossible to keep shined. These have been around since the Gulf War when Gen Schwartkof (sp?) personally wore and chose the design.
 
There standard issue, there phasing out the old Jungle/Combat boots, You should see the new Marine Issue BDU's.
 
Desert boots are the only ones that are brown these days. The Marines are not only changing their BDUs to a funky computer generated pattern (redesigned with different pockets as well), but they are also phasing in brown, no-shine boots. According to a Gunny I talked to the other day, they won't be fully outfitted with everything until 2006 so you only see a minority of Marines wearing them. The Marines love 'em apparently.

Just wish the Air Force would get rid of those horrible baseball caps. I can't believe self-respecting people would wear that crap in uniform.
 
AndrewR:

Do people in active duty usually wear the skinny flight caps, or do some wear the, shoot.. garrison caps? The sort that the gentleman in the middle of this pic is wearing:

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I heard that it is allowed, but I've never seen any active duty officers wear them. Unwritten rule or something?
 
Those boots are not desert boots, they are too brown AND he would be out of uniform for wearing woodland BDU's with desert tan boots.

I know all about desert tan boots i have a few pair left over from when they were issued to me.
 
Originally posted by: rawoutput
AndrewR:

Do people in active duty usually wear the skinny flight caps, or do some wear the, shoot.. garrison caps? The sort that the gentleman in the middle of this pic is wearing:

Link

I heard that it is allowed, but I've never seen any active duty officers wear them. Unwritten rule or something?
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The "bus driver cap" you see the Chief wearing us usually worn during formal ceremonies or directed by the commander. The Flight cap aks "cuntt cap" is worn during normal activities when wearing your blues. Most people hate the bus driver cap, it hurts your head and requires much maintience to keep clean.

On a side note the Chief in the picture looked pretty fricken young to be a chief, until the picture finished loading and i saw the presidental support emblem on his right breast, that explained everything. also you will notice the Security Police shield on his left pocket and SP Function badge above his ribbons, I used to wear those....

 
I have no idea what is up with those boots - they are definitely NOT desert boots, which are not authorized with woodland BDUs anyway - but I have to recognize the badass McChord AFB C-17 in the background. Go Team McChord!
 
Originally posted by: THELAIR
anyone got a link to the new BDU styles ?
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R. Lee Ermey did a thing on them in the History Channel show Mail Call. You might check their website, or watch for reruns.
 
I've seen em for sale in numerous mil.cat's. I wish they made a hiking boot cut of the same shoe..I'd get a pair.
 
I purchased a pair of the new Marine Corps combat boot last year. The Army is supposed to start issuing them this year. You can see the new combat boot here, as well as several other styles and colors approved for various services use.

http://www.bellevilleshoe.com/federal/federal_5.htm

It is also possible that his boots are covered in some kind of red clay or mud of some kind too. I know when I was in basic down at Ft. McClellan, Alabama, there were many times we came back covered in the red clay. Hell, my initial issue PT uniform that my wife stole from me when the new ones came out still has red clay stains on it that I've never been able to get fully cleaned.

Also, here's a link to the Marine Corps' new BDU getup:

http://www.marcorsyscom.usmc.mil/sites/mcub/utility/index.html
 
Originally posted by: Citrix
Those boots are not desert boots, they are too brown AND he would be out of uniform for wearing woodland BDU's with desert tan boots.

I know all about desert tan boots i have a few pair left over from when they were issued to me.
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From Rogue's second link (here):

"The boots are dyed 'coyote brown' and either pair may be worn with either the desert or woodland combat utility uniforms."

Just click on the picture of the boot to read it.

 
Originally posted by: Rogue
I purchased a pair of the new Marine Corps combat boot last year. The Army is supposed to start issuing them this year. You can see the new combat boot here, as well as several other styles and colors approved for various services use.

http://www.bellevilleshoe.com/federal/federal_5.htm

It is also possible that his boots are covered in some kind of red clay or mud of some kind too. I know when I was in basic down at Ft. McClellan, Alabama, there were many times we came back covered in the red clay. Hell, my initial issue PT uniform that my wife stole from me when the new ones came out still has red clay stains on it that I've never been able to get fully cleaned.

Also, here's a link to the Marine Corps' new BDU getup:

http://www.marcorsyscom.usmc.mil/sites/mcub/utility/index.html
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I must say, the Armed Forces have some pretty good looking boots 🙂
 
Ahh, finally got the picture to load. My ISP has terrible routing, and I cannot access some sites some times.

Those boots are not desert boots, they are too brown AND he would be out of uniform for wearing woodland BDU's with desert tan boots.

Nope, not desert boots. He's a Marine, and those are the boots I referenced in my first post, which ARE authorized with woodland BDUs. They have a little Marine Corps emblem on the heel, and if you look quickly, it almost makes you think they're Timberlands.

I heard that it is allowed, but I've never seen any active duty officers wear them. Unwritten rule or something?

As I remember the regs, they are authorized for normal wear, but you'd probably be ridiculed for doing so. I frankly hate the piss cutter caps and blues in general so I just try to wear BDUs whenever possible. I particularly dislike the service coat since it makes us look like airline pilots (which is what Gen. McPeak was basically trying to do when he changed it -- thanks).

Aircrew also wear the flight cap with flightsuits. The remaining AF headgear is the beret, in black (security forces), grey (combat weather), maroon (pararescue), and scarlet (combat controllers).

Security Police shield

No such animal anymore since they combined base defense and law enforcement -- Security Forces. "SP" was so much easier to say though.
 
Originally posted by: AndrewR

As I remember the regs, they are authorized for normal wear, but you'd probably be ridiculed for doing so. I frankly hate the piss cutter caps and blues in general so I just try to wear BDUs whenever possible. I particularly dislike the service coat since it makes us look like airline pilots (which is what Gen. McPeak was basically trying to do when he changed it -- thanks).
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I think the service dress that originated under Gen McPeak is the kind with rank on the sleeves, similar to the Navy's (or, as you correctly point out, an airline pilot's) service dress uniform, which is obviously no longer the case. I do think the previous design, with the covered breast pockets, looked better, but I don't mind our service dress, and I don't mind blues as long as I am not wearing the all-poly pants. Fortunately BDUs are more or less the default uniform at McChord.

 
Originally posted by: Don_Vito
Originally posted by: AndrewR

As I remember the regs, they are authorized for normal wear, but you'd probably be ridiculed for doing so. I frankly hate the piss cutter caps and blues in general so I just try to wear BDUs whenever possible. I particularly dislike the service coat since it makes us look like airline pilots (which is what Gen. McPeak was basically trying to do when he changed it -- thanks).
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I think the service dress that originated under Gen McPeak is the kind with rank on the sleeves, similar to the Navy's (or, as you correctly point out, an airline pilot's) service dress uniform, which is obviously no longer the case. I do think the previous design, with the covered breast pockets, looked better, but I don't mind our service dress, and I don't mind blues as long as I am not wearing the all-poly pants. Fortunately BDUs are more or less the default uniform at McChord.
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Yes, McPeak's design was the sleeve rank which was finally changed with howling from the servicemembers who didn't like being mistaken for Delta pilots, but that design also eliminated the extra buttons and pockets which the Army still has on theirs, to which you refer. However, moving the rank back to epaulets does only a very little to change the nature of the coat, which is more or less a blazer with added military decoration. When the Air Force already has the reputation of being the least "military" of the services, in terms of attitude and bearing, the civilian nature of the dress uniform only adds to that impression for me. I just preferred the old one and didn't see a need to change! Plus, the fact that I had to buy a new coat irked me.

Whoever decided that poly pants were acceptable should be wrapped in black plastic wrap and left in the sun for a few days.
 
Originally posted by: AndrewR
Originally posted by: Don_Vito
Originally posted by: AndrewR

As I remember the regs, they are authorized for normal wear, but you'd probably be ridiculed for doing so. I frankly hate the piss cutter caps and blues in general so I just try to wear BDUs whenever possible. I particularly dislike the service coat since it makes us look like airline pilots (which is what Gen. McPeak was basically trying to do when he changed it -- thanks).
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I think the service dress that originated under Gen McPeak is the kind with rank on the sleeves, similar to the Navy's (or, as you correctly point out, an airline pilot's) service dress uniform, which is obviously no longer the case. I do think the previous design, with the covered breast pockets, looked better, but I don't mind our service dress, and I don't mind blues as long as I am not wearing the all-poly pants. Fortunately BDUs are more or less the default uniform at McChord.
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Yes, McPeak's design was the sleeve rank which was finally changed with howling from the servicemembers who didn't like being mistaken for Delta pilots, but that design also eliminated the extra buttons and pockets which the Army still has on theirs, to which you refer. However, moving the rank back to epaulets does only a very little to change the nature of the coat, which is more or less a blazer with added military decoration. When the Air Force already has the reputation of being the least "military" of the services, in terms of attitude and bearing, the civilian nature of the dress uniform only adds to that impression for me. I just preferred the old one and didn't see a need to change! Plus, the fact that I had to buy a new coat irked me.

Whoever decided that poly pants were acceptable should be wrapped in black plastic wrap and left in the sun for a few days.
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Don't bitch, you never had to wear bell bottoms.

 
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