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Yes, I realize the flame suits need to be on and reinforced for these kinds of threads, but I couldn't resist after this study came out.
Talk amongst yourselves.
Talk amongst yourselves.
Look, another homosexuality topic!
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johnjohn320
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Huh...I guess it explains why the "ex-gays" usually become gay again.
/that was meant as a serious comment. I've got no problems with homosexuality, provided you realize I'm straight and don't come on to me.
/that was meant as a serious comment. I've got no problems with homosexuality, provided you realize I'm straight and don't come on to me.
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bit low, isn't it?
hrm. the claim is based on the fact that some genes occur more in males than females, and vice versa. GOOD JOB! :cookie;
this doesn't prove a thing, way to report NOTHING, CNN.
...
to elaborate:
Ok. so the brain starts developing before secondary sexual characteristics develop. that's all they've found. nothing else.
*edit* I forgot one thing. find a good way to identify these genes, find a homosexual mouse, and then see if it has an abundance of female mouse genes. oh, wait, THERE ARE NO HOMOSEXUAL MICE.
analyze homosexual humans, and I strongly doubt you'll find an abnormally large buildup of the genes normally abundant in the opposite sex...
new book: "A Parent's Guide to Preventing Homosexuality" - dolph 12/02/2002
Possible? I'm gay and want to be straight. Help! - GeekDrew 01/21/2003
My reply to both topics:
Possible? I'm gay and want to be straight. Help! - GeekDrew 01/21/2003
My reply to both topics:
- AMERICAN PSYCHIATRIC ASSOCIATION BOLSTERS CONDEMNATION OF REPARATIVE THERAPY' TO CHANGE' GAYS
- The American Psychiatric Association was the first mental health organization to remove homosexuality as a mental disorder in 1973. In August 1997, the American Psychological Association overwhelmingly passed a resolution at its convention that asserted that there is no sound scientific evidence on the efficacy of "reparative therapy," which seeks to "cure" homosexuals.
The APA Resolution on Appropriate Therapeutic Responses to Sexual Orientation
- Attempts to use psychological interventions to change sexual orientation are based on the discredited claim that homosexuality is a disease, a notion that represents an attempt to use the language of science to promote antigay prejudice. That view is completely inconsistent with the bulk of scientific research and with the official policies of the American Psychological Association (APA) and the American Psychiatric Association.
It is highly doubtful that the so-called "conversion therapies" and "reparative therapies" are actually able to change a person's sexual orientation. Claims about their success are based on scattered anecdotal reports, not on rigorous scientific studies that have been subjected to review by other scientists...
Organizations of US Mental Health Professionals Are Unanimous:
- Perhaps the best rebuttal to claims that gay or lesbian people can "change" their orientation is citation of the many organizations of health care professionals who have officially condemned "conversion" therapies. These include the following:
American Academy of Pediatrics (1993):
"Therapy directed specifically at changing sexual orientation is contraindicated, since it can provoke guilt and anxiety while having little or no potential for achieving changes in orientation."
American Psychiatric Association (1998):
"The potential risks of 'reparative therapy' are great, including depression, anxiety and self-destructive behavior. . . . [T]he American Psychiatric Association opposes any psychiatric treatment, such as 'reparative' or 'conversion' therapy, which is based upon the assumption that homosexuality per se is a mental disorder or based upon a prior assumption that the patient should change his/her homosexual orientation." In response to Dr. Spitzer's new research (described below), the APA issued a statement affirming its position and cautioning that "there is no published evidence supporting the efficacy of reparative therapy as a treatment to change one's sexual orientation." The APA removed homosexuality from its list of disorders in 1973.
American Psychological Association (1997):
"No scientific evidence exists to support the effectiveness of any of the conversion therapies that try to change sexual orientation." The association removed homosexuality from its list of disorders in 1975.
National Association of Social Workers (2000):
"No data demonstrate that reparative and conversion therapies are effective, and in fact they may be harmful. . . .uch treatment potentially can lead to severe emotional damage." The association removed homosexuality from its list of disorders in 1977.
Cohler & Galatzer-Levy Report (commissioned by the American Psychoanalytic Association) (2000):
"The mental health community must confront the ethics of directed efforts at changing sexual orientation. Generally these efforts are not successful. . . .uch purportedly therapeutic efforts do not work and may cause harm." The association removed homosexuality from its list of disorders in 1991.
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Originally posted by: Amorphus
bit low, isn't it?
hrm. the claim is based on the fact that some genes occur more in males than females, and vice versa. GOOD JOB! :cookie;
this doesn't prove a thing, way to report NOTHING, CNN.
...
to elaborate:
Ok. so the brain starts developing before secondary sexual characteristics develop. that's all they've found. nothing else.
*edit* I forgot one thing. find a good way to identify these genes, find a homosexual mouse, and then see if it has an abundance of female mouse genes. oh, wait, THERE ARE NO HOMOSEXUAL MICE.
analyze homosexual humans, and I strongly doubt you'll find an abnormally large buildup of the genes normally abundant in the opposite sex...
I call bullshit. Homosexuality occurs quite often in other species, (searching for a link, but you might be shocked to hear that I did not get this information online, I got it from my sister who has her masters in biology and entomology).
johnjohn320
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The church can do whatever the hell they want, whether the state can ban them or not...well that's the debate then isn't it?
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