RationalThoughts

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Can you all post some windows longhorn links and info for my friend and I? We would like to know as much as we can about it and if it will have a 64 bit version for amd.
 

wallsfd949

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Due for release in ?2006? I would hope they have a 64 bit edition. There is a great SEARCH function on several well know sites. One of them is called g-o-o-g-l-e. A.k.a. STFW
 

hopejr

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yes, some people don't do enough searching before asking such questions. Using Google you can find heaps of stuff on longhorn. That's how I found stuff about it.
BTW, of course they'll have a 64-bit edition. There's already a Windows XP 64-bit for AMD.
 

hopejr

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There was another thread that asked a similar question (forgot where it is) and I put links in there, including winsupersite.

Edit: here's the other thread
 

Ken90630

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I offer the following, from the October 19 issue of PC Magazine (paraphrased a bit for brevity, along with a slight bit of editorial comment on my part):

It's set to ship in the last half of 2006. But it will NOT contain the much-talked-about WinFS file system.

Around the same time of its launch, MS plans to introduce two components of Longhorn -- the Avalon graphics subsystem and Indigo communications system -- for XP and Windows Server 2003. What this means is that those who already have XP will be able to get two of the biggest anticipated jewels of Longhorn -- the Avalon and Indigo systems -- without having to buy the whole Longhorn operating system! Yay! :)

Apparently MS is experiencing significant challenges developing the WinFS file system. It was originally projected to ship in the mid-90s.

(The rest of this post is just my thoughts and was not in the above-mentioned article.)

Although the article doesn't mention it, my guess is that WinFS could either be an add-on to Longhorn if/when it eventually becomes available or incorporated into a future operating system after Longhorn.

I'll be interested to see news about whether improved security will be available for XP or if we'll have to buy Longhorn to get it.

As for the whole 64-bit hoopla, I still remain in the wait-and-see camp. Until software developers develop programs to make use of a need for more than 4 GB of RAM -- programs that the masses will use -- I fail to see a large scale demand for a 64-bit operating system. Gamers and scientists, for example, will use it, but will the masses pay hundreds of dollars for a new O.S. so they can use more than 4 GB of RAM to surf the Web or use MS Office or the Adobe programs? Why would they? I've yet to hear even one convincing answer to this question from anyone. (This is not a jab at the A64 chip, BTW, which is a great chip even without its 64-bit capability.)

That's a general overview from where I sit.

Ken

PS: This should probably be self-evident, but most of this material is, as they say, "subject to change." We all know how predictions and goals are when it comes to Microsoft and software development in general, so some or all of this could be out the window (pun intended) by the time late 2006 rolls around. In any case, there should be some really cool things coming down the pike -- particularly the Avalon graphics system, which is reputed to have 3D functionality. And I read somewhere that some monitor manufacturers are already working on displays to make use of this. :)

PPS: This thread should have been initiated in the Operating Systems forum rather than here. :evil:
 

hopejr

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Just a little more on Longhorn. I've had the privilege of using builds 4051 and 4074 (both released to the public) and they were quite nice (4074 more so, but that's because some of the bugs in 4051 were fixed in it and it had a newer look). There was an alpha of the WinFS in it too, and that was quite nice, albeit quite slow.
Something I find interesting: Microsoft can't seem to get WinFS out the door in time for Longhorn's initial release, yet Apple have implemented a similar (and I mean almost exactly the same) system in it's next release of OS X (10.4 Tiger). They call it spotlight. It's integration into Finder is identical (except for the obvious GUI differences between Longhorn and OS X) to what the pre-release WinFS was like, except there is no need to drag stuff to the "Default Store". Well, this time Apple has stolen something from Microsoft it looks promising, not the other way around :p