London - Red hair may be the genetic legacy of Neanderthals..

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London - Red hair may be the genetic legacy of Neanderthals, according to a new study by British scientists.

Researchers at the John Radcliffe Institute of Molecular Medicine in Oxford were quoted by The Times as saying the so-called "ginger gene" which gives people red hair, fair skin and freckles could be up to 100 000 years old.

They claim that their discovery points to the gene having originated in Neanderthal man who lived in Europe for 200 000 years before Homo sapien settlers, the ancestors of modern man, arrived from Africa about 40 000 years ago...





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PELarson

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So the next time my cousin, the police officer, pulls someone over and gets called a Neanderthal. My cousin can say "And proud of it too!".
 

IGBT

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...I wonder if they would qualify as a new minority class..possibly an endangered species??
 

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well, if that is so, then neanderthal man and modern man are not different species.
 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
well, if that is so, then neanderthal man and modern man are not different species.

Hmm.... no? Sharing a gene doesn't make you the same species. A derivation of another species, perhaps, but not the same.
 

Looney

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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: ElFenix
well, if that is so, then neanderthal man and modern man are not different species.

Hmm.... no? Sharing a gene doesn't make you the same species. A derivation of another species, perhaps, but not the same.

I think the assumption here is that the red hair was inherited from Neanderthals, which would mean that they were able to mate at one time.
 

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Originally posted by: IGBT

London - Red hair may be the genetic legacy of Neanderthals, according to a new study by British scientists.

Researchers at the John Radcliffe Institute of Molecular Medicine in Oxford were quoted by The Times as saying the so-called "ginger gene" which gives people red hair, fair skin and freckles could be up to 100 000 years old.

They claim that their discovery points to the gene having originated in Neanderthal man who lived in Europe for 200 000 years before Homo sapien settlers, the ancestors of modern man, arrived from Africa about 40 000 years ago...





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And people still believe that the Neanderthals died out

My theory is they were absorbed into homo sapiens
 

artikk

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Genes don't completely define us. We and our environment define ourselves. :cool:
 

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Originally posted by: Hardcore
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: ElFenix
well, if that is so, then neanderthal man and modern man are not different species.

Hmm.... no? Sharing a gene doesn't make you the same species. A derivation of another species, perhaps, but not the same.

I think the assumption here is that the red hair was inherited from Neanderthals, which would mean that they were able to mate at one time.

Last time I started a thread supporting that, I got ripped a new one
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: ElFenix
well, if that is so, then neanderthal man and modern man are not different species.

Hmm.... no? Sharing a gene doesn't make you the same species. A derivation of another species, perhaps, but not the same.

if the researchers are right, and the gene originated in the neanderthals, then either we are descendants from neanderthals or at some point there was some mating between man and neanderthals (or a descendant of them).
 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: ElFenix
well, if that is so, then neanderthal man and modern man are not different species.

Hmm.... no? Sharing a gene doesn't make you the same species. A derivation of another species, perhaps, but not the same.

if the researchers are right, and the gene originated in the neanderthals, then either we are descendants from neanderthals or at some point there was some mating between man and neanderthals (or a descendant of them).

I had thought that the possibility of the Neanderthals being a subspecies was already in question, but a bit of Googling set me straight.

Thanks.
 

no0b

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what about two toners? My head hair is brown, my beard is red.

Also my moustache(sp?) is blond.

I could describe my pubic hair but I think I would get banned.
 

Mo0o

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Originally posted by: no0b
what about two toners? My head hair is brown, my beard is red.

Also my moustache(sp?) is blond.

I could describe my pubic hair but I think I would get banned.

You're like an interior decorator's worst nightmare :p
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: no0b
what about two toners? My head hair is brown, my beard is red.

Also my moustache(sp?) is blond.

I could describe my pubic hair but I think I would get banned.

I've got brown hair, but my goatee has brown, black, blond and red hairs in it
 

jadinolf

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Originally posted by: PELarson
So the next time my cousin, the police officer, pulls someone over and gets called a Neanderthal. My cousin can say "And proud of it too!".

Tell him to watch out for the circle flies. :D