london for a honeymoon in december/january - any affordable suggestions?

tami

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any thoughts on where we should go, affordable places to visit? (food venues not included, we can't use your advice there unfortunately)

thx :D
 

WildHorse

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Originally posted by: tami
any thoughts on where we should go, affordable places to visit? (food venues not included, we can't use your advice there unfortunately)

thx :D

Hi Tami
I go there lots. Maybe some ATOT members living there will chime in here for you.

London is fun but crazy expensive. A pound costs about $1.84 but buys only about the same as what a dollar buys.

One thing that can help lower costs is to consider staying stay down in Brighton / Hove then going up to the city by express train. Down at Brighton the Royal Pavillion & Lanes are interesting.

Overcrowded London always seems to me sort of like Disneyland. All the standard tourist stuff is fun. Examples: Madame Tussauds museum, all the historical churches like St. Paul's & Westminster Abby, Tower of London, London Eye, British Royal Museum with its fantastic plunderings from the outlying empire (the Rosetta stone, etc.), Hyde & St. James parks, and for a woman's interest: Harrods (world's most famous department store), Selfridges (less expensive store), tourist boat ride on Thames, go see the Royal Observatory out at Greenwich & the Int'l Date Line & the old ship there. See a play at the Victoria theatre. Dine at Covent Garden.

You'll exhaust your money before you run out of things to see & do. Have a blast, you'll love it.

Edit: Oh and I almost forgot: On Saturday mornings go to the flea market at Portobello Road, sort of north & west of Hyde Park. Fun.
 

Sukhoi

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If you're going to be in town for a week or more I highly suggest getting a weekly Tube pass. It's very nice just being able to go somewhere, rather than trying to convince yourself to use the money to buy a single ticket.

Now let me think of all the nice places I've been there. Both of my trips were in the summer so obviously the more outdoor activities might not be good in the winter.

Harrods
Royal Air Force Museum
Bath (train from Paddington IIRC)
Tower of London
Covent Garden
British Museum (Personally I didn't like it. Lots of clay pots and similar items.)
London Transport Museum (at Covent Garden)
Climb the Great London Fire Monument
Natural History Museum
Science Museum
Victoria and Albert Museum
Greenwich and the Royal Observatory
Imperial War Museum
Westminster Abbey
Hampton Court Palace (AWESOME on a nice day, not sure how winter would be)
Royal Army Museum (Imperiam War Museum much better)
Selfridges (almost as expensive as Harrods)
 

pyonir

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I took a boat "cruise" on the Thames to Greenwich and the Royal Observatory and I'm glad i did. That was fun.
 

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virtual credit card numbers (for $1 numbers) + priceline FTW!!!!!
 

BMdoobieW

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Originally posted by: Sukhoi
If you're going to be in town for a week or more I highly suggest getting a weekly Tube pass. It's very nice just being able to go somewhere, rather than trying to convince yourself to use the money to buy a single ticket.
You don't need to convince me to ride the Tube. I eat, breathe, and sleep subways.
This is my website: RailfanWindow.com
 

Sukhoi

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Originally posted by: BMdoobieW
Originally posted by: Sukhoi
If you're going to be in town for a week or more I highly suggest getting a weekly Tube pass. It's very nice just being able to go somewhere, rather than trying to convince yourself to use the money to buy a single ticket.
You don't need to convince me to ride the Tube. I eat, breathe, and sleep subways.
This is my website: RailfanWindow.com

Awesome. :D You ever been on the Tube before? It's great. I also love subways. Here are some tips and things to do:

Stand to board at the rear of the train so you get the full rush of air when it comes barreling into the station.

If you're in shape climb the emergency stairs at one of the deep-level stations. It's fun. :D

I remember the Waterloo & City line to be somewhat fun because the cars are rather small, but don't go out of your way to ride it.

On the north side of Hyde Park near Queensway (which might still be closed, check on that) is the fake front rowhouse. The building was removed to put in the District and Circle line tracks, and then a fake front was put up. It's pretty neat and if you're going to be in the area I can tell you exactly where it is.

You could try contacting the Tube company, explaining your train interest, and see if you can schedule a tour of one of the closed stations. However I highly doubt they'd do it, especially after the terrorist attacks. But it's worth a shot.

Check out these sites:

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Launchpad/4375/downintro.htm
http://victorian.fortunecity.com/finsbury/254/tubelinks.html
http://www.leverton.org/tunnels/cslr/
http://www.squarewheels.org.uk/rly/
http://travel.to/tubetrain
http://www.angelfire.com/extreme/transport/
http://www.trainweb.org/tubeprune/
http://underground-history.co.uk/front.php
 

Geekbabe

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Originally posted by: Sukhoi
Originally posted by: BMdoobieW
Originally posted by: Sukhoi
If you're going to be in town for a week or more I highly suggest getting a weekly Tube pass. It's very nice just being able to go somewhere, rather than trying to convince yourself to use the money to buy a single ticket.
You don't need to convince me to ride the Tube. I eat, breathe, and sleep subways.
This is my website: RailfanWindow.com

Awesome. :D You ever been on the Tube before? It's great. I also love subways. Here are some tips and things to do:

Stand to board at the rear of the train so you get the full rush of air when it comes barreling into the station.

If you're in shape climb the emergency stairs at one of the deep-level stations. It's fun. :D

I remember the Waterloo & City line to be somewhat fun because the cars are rather small, but don't go out of your way to ride it.

On the north side of Hyde Park near Queensway (which might still be closed, check on that) is the fake front rowhouse. The building was removed to put in the District and Circle line tracks, and then a fake front was put up. It's pretty neat and if you're going to be in the area I can tell you exactly where it is.

You could try contacting the Tube company, explaining your train interest, and see if you can schedule a tour of one of the closed stations. However I highly doubt they'd do it, especially after the terrorist attacks. But it's worth a shot.

Check out these sites:

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Launchpad/4375/downintro.htm
http://victorian.fortunecity.com/finsbury/254/tubelinks.html
http://www.leverton.org/tunnels/cslr/
http://www.squarewheels.org.uk/rly/
http://travel.to/tubetrain
http://www.angelfire.com/extreme/transport/
http://www.trainweb.org/tubeprune/
http://underground-history.co.uk/front.php


You haven't ever been told you've got an autism like disorder have you ?
 

tami

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Originally posted by: Bryophyte
I don't think you can call it a honeymoon if you've been married for almost 2 years. ;)

well, yeah, but financial reasons have prevented any "honeymoon" from occurring previously :(

might as well call it one... we are still very much newlyweds :D

i was in london with 3 college friends in 2001... it was great, but i plan on approaching this trip differently because, well, it's now with the love of my life, and now i'm more into photography than i was before, so picture-taking opportunities will be very important to me.

thanks all for your feedback so far. :)
 

Sukhoi

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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Sukhoi
Originally posted by: BMdoobieW
Originally posted by: Sukhoi
If you're going to be in town for a week or more I highly suggest getting a weekly Tube pass. It's very nice just being able to go somewhere, rather than trying to convince yourself to use the money to buy a single ticket.
You don't need to convince me to ride the Tube. I eat, breathe, and sleep subways.
This is my website: RailfanWindow.com

Awesome. :D You ever been on the Tube before? It's great. I also love subways. Here are some tips and things to do:

Stand to board at the rear of the train so you get the full rush of air when it comes barreling into the station.

If you're in shape climb the emergency stairs at one of the deep-level stations. It's fun. :D

I remember the Waterloo & City line to be somewhat fun because the cars are rather small, but don't go out of your way to ride it.

On the north side of Hyde Park near Queensway (which might still be closed, check on that) is the fake front rowhouse. The building was removed to put in the District and Circle line tracks, and then a fake front was put up. It's pretty neat and if you're going to be in the area I can tell you exactly where it is.

You could try contacting the Tube company, explaining your train interest, and see if you can schedule a tour of one of the closed stations. However I highly doubt they'd do it, especially after the terrorist attacks. But it's worth a shot.

Check out these sites:

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Launchpad/4375/downintro.htm
http://victorian.fortunecity.com/finsbury/254/tubelinks.html
http://www.leverton.org/tunnels/cslr/
http://www.squarewheels.org.uk/rly/
http://travel.to/tubetrain
http://www.angelfire.com/extreme/transport/
http://www.trainweb.org/tubeprune/
http://underground-history.co.uk/front.php


You haven't ever been told you've got an autism like disorder have you ?

?
 

Apathetic

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Hmm... If you're flying into Gatwick (which is quite a bit west of London), you'll probably want to take the Gatwick Express into London (it takes you to Victoria station, which is one of the main hubs for the underground. Make sure your budget takes this into account. If you fly into Heathrow, you can get directly onto the Underground from there.

Since I'm sure you plan on visiting a bunch of tourist sites (which are scattered all over London), check out a 7 day London Travelcard. It will allow you to use the underground, city busses, ferries, and some trains as often as you like for a week. I can't remember if you can get something cheaper for "underground only" or not. Do a google search and read up on it. As long as you don't mind a little walking and don't plan on leaving London, the undergound will take you everwhere you want to go.

As far as things to see and do, London is HUGE. Check out Windsor castle, parlament (Big Ben is there), and Trafalgar Square in addition to the things other people posted.

Oh, Frommer's generally has excellent travel guides. I recommend at least browsing one in a book store. Whichever one you buy, make sure it lists the names of both the underground line and station for each listed site.

Oh, when you first get into the underground, they have free color maps showing all the different lines (I think there's a dozen of them or so) and all the stations. Get one and keep it with you. As long as you have this, you can't really get lost. link
This one also shows the zones.

I hope this helps.

Dave
 

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If your into photos make sure you go along the south bank at night with a good tripod. There are some great night photography sites out there including the london eye, parliment (including big ben) and Tower Bridge. One other great spot is on the south bank side of the millenium bridge looking at st pauls. Some of my shots from last fall are here http://irisopia.blogspot.com/

Have Fun!

Alex
 

tami

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Originally posted by: Sukhoi
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Sukhoi
Originally posted by: BMdoobieW
Originally posted by: Sukhoi
If you're going to be in town for a week or more I highly suggest getting a weekly Tube pass. It's very nice just being able to go somewhere, rather than trying to convince yourself to use the money to buy a single ticket.
You don't need to convince me to ride the Tube. I eat, breathe, and sleep subways.
This is my website: RailfanWindow.com

Awesome. :D You ever been on the Tube before? It's great. I also love subways. Here are some tips and things to do:

Stand to board at the rear of the train so you get the full rush of air when it comes barreling into the station.

If you're in shape climb the emergency stairs at one of the deep-level stations. It's fun. :D

I remember the Waterloo & City line to be somewhat fun because the cars are rather small, but don't go out of your way to ride it.

On the north side of Hyde Park near Queensway (which might still be closed, check on that) is the fake front rowhouse. The building was removed to put in the District and Circle line tracks, and then a fake front was put up. It's pretty neat and if you're going to be in the area I can tell you exactly where it is.

You could try contacting the Tube company, explaining your train interest, and see if you can schedule a tour of one of the closed stations. However I highly doubt they'd do it, especially after the terrorist attacks. But it's worth a shot.

Check out these sites:

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Launchpad/4375/downintro.htm
http://victorian.fortunecity.com/finsbury/254/tubelinks.html
http://www.leverton.org/tunnels/cslr/
http://www.squarewheels.org.uk/rly/
http://travel.to/tubetrain
http://www.angelfire.com/extreme/transport/
http://www.trainweb.org/tubeprune/
http://underground-history.co.uk/front.php


You haven't ever been told you've got an autism like disorder have you ?

?

i think she meant asperger's syndrome. a lot of railfan folk seem to have it, at least on forums that my husband frequently visits.

Individuals with AS can exhibit a variety of characteristics and the disorder can range from mild to severe. Persons with AS show marked deficiencies in social skills, have difficulties with transitions or changes and prefer sameness. They often have obsessive routines and may be preoccupied with a particular subject of interest.

from http://www.udel.edu/bkirby/asperger/aswhatisit.html
 

tami

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alex: that's a great suggestion, and one i'm definitely going to seek out! thanks!!!! i love night photography :)
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Sukhoi
Originally posted by: BMdoobieW
Originally posted by: Sukhoi
If you're going to be in town for a week or more I highly suggest getting a weekly Tube pass. It's very nice just being able to go somewhere, rather than trying to convince yourself to use the money to buy a single ticket.
You don't need to convince me to ride the Tube. I eat, breathe, and sleep subways.
This is my website: RailfanWindow.com

Awesome. :D You ever been on the Tube before? It's great. I also love subways. Here are some tips and things to do:

Stand to board at the rear of the train so you get the full rush of air when it comes barreling into the station.

If you're in shape climb the emergency stairs at one of the deep-level stations. It's fun. :D

I remember the Waterloo & City line to be somewhat fun because the cars are rather small, but don't go out of your way to ride it.

On the north side of Hyde Park near Queensway (which might still be closed, check on that) is the fake front rowhouse. The building was removed to put in the District and Circle line tracks, and then a fake front was put up. It's pretty neat and if you're going to be in the area I can tell you exactly where it is.

You could try contacting the Tube company, explaining your train interest, and see if you can schedule a tour of one of the closed stations. However I highly doubt they'd do it, especially after the terrorist attacks. But it's worth a shot.

Check out these sites:

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Launchpad/4375/downintro.htm
http://victorian.fortunecity.com/finsbury/254/tubelinks.html
http://www.leverton.org/tunnels/cslr/
http://www.squarewheels.org.uk/rly/
http://travel.to/tubetrain
http://www.angelfire.com/extreme/transport/
http://www.trainweb.org/tubeprune/
http://underground-history.co.uk/front.php


You haven't ever been told you've got an autism like disorder have you ?

How does he post give that off at all? Pretty a$$holish of you.
 

Sukhoi

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I consider myself more of a socially inept engineer, but who knows. Not much to do about it.
 

Bryophyte

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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Sukhoi
Originally posted by: BMdoobieW
Originally posted by: Sukhoi
If you're going to be in town for a week or more I highly suggest getting a weekly Tube pass. It's very nice just being able to go somewhere, rather than trying to convince yourself to use the money to buy a single ticket.
You don't need to convince me to ride the Tube. I eat, breathe, and sleep subways.
This is my website: RailfanWindow.com

Awesome. :D You ever been on the Tube before? It's great. I also love subways. Here are some tips and things to do:

Stand to board at the rear of the train so you get the full rush of air when it comes barreling into the station.

If you're in shape climb the emergency stairs at one of the deep-level stations. It's fun. :D

I remember the Waterloo & City line to be somewhat fun because the cars are rather small, but don't go out of your way to ride it.

On the north side of Hyde Park near Queensway (which might still be closed, check on that) is the fake front rowhouse. The building was removed to put in the District and Circle line tracks, and then a fake front was put up. It's pretty neat and if you're going to be in the area I can tell you exactly where it is.

You could try contacting the Tube company, explaining your train interest, and see if you can schedule a tour of one of the closed stations. However I highly doubt they'd do it, especially after the terrorist attacks. But it's worth a shot.

Check out these sites:

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Launchpad/4375/downintro.htm
http://victorian.fortunecity.com/finsbury/254/tubelinks.html
http://www.leverton.org/tunnels/cslr/
http://www.squarewheels.org.uk/rly/
http://travel.to/tubetrain
http://www.angelfire.com/extreme/transport/
http://www.trainweb.org/tubeprune/
http://underground-history.co.uk/front.php


You haven't ever been told you've got an autism like disorder have you ?

How does he post give that off at all? Pretty a$$holish of you.

Not "assholish" at all considering she raised an autistic child. She knows more about autism than the average person. Obviously something he wrote sounded familiar to her. She obviously doesn't look down on people with autism.
 

tami

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there is nothing wrong with sharing bookmarks, and i know my husband will be excited to read about them -- so thanks sukhoi for your detailed response! a travel pass is going to be a must for us, as i want to go everywhere. i wish i could stay a little longer, but my company has a policy that i can't take more than 5 days off consecutively, so it will either be december 28 (night) until jan 7 (am flight, i suppose) or december 23 (pm flight) until jan 3. i'm thinking of the former schedule rather than the latter, especially since transit is closed on december 25, but who knows. any thoughts on that?
 

dartworth

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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Geekbabe


You haven't ever been told you've got an autism like disorder have you ?

How does he post give that off at all? Pretty a$$holish of you.


yes, MacBaine was correct is his assessment of her...:(
 

Geekbabe

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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Sukhoi
Originally posted by: BMdoobieW
Originally posted by: Sukhoi
If you're going to be in town for a week or more I highly suggest getting a weekly Tube pass. It's very nice just being able to go somewhere, rather than trying to convince yourself to use the money to buy a single ticket.
You don't need to convince me to ride the Tube. I eat, breathe, and sleep subways.
This is my website: RailfanWindow.com

Awesome. :D You ever been on the Tube before? It's great. I also love subways. Here are some tips and things to do:

Stand to board at the rear of the train so you get the full rush of air when it comes barreling into the station.

If you're in shape climb the emergency stairs at one of the deep-level stations. It's fun. :D

I remember the Waterloo & City line to be somewhat fun because the cars are rather small, but don't go out of your way to ride it.

On the north side of Hyde Park near Queensway (which might still be closed, check on that) is the fake front rowhouse. The building was removed to put in the District and Circle line tracks, and then a fake front was put up. It's pretty neat and if you're going to be in the area I can tell you exactly where it is.

You could try contacting the Tube company, explaining your train interest, and see if you can schedule a tour of one of the closed stations. However I highly doubt they'd do it, especially after the terrorist attacks. But it's worth a shot.

Check out these sites:

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Launchpad/4375/downintro.htm
http://victorian.fortunecity.com/finsbury/254/tubelinks.html
http://www.leverton.org/tunnels/cslr/
http://www.squarewheels.org.uk/rly/
http://travel.to/tubetrain
http://www.angelfire.com/extreme/transport/
http://www.trainweb.org/tubeprune/
http://underground-history.co.uk/front.php


You haven't ever been told you've got an autism like disorder have you ?

How does he post give that off at all? Pretty a$$holish of you.



I wasn't trying to be mean or an azzhole, the only other person I've seen get this excited about anything to do with the subway system is my son, who is overwhelmingly bright... and autistic.

A love of buses and trains and a fascination with all things to do with them is fairly common among folks with pervasive developmental issues. My son probably knows more about the T and commuter rail system here than many of the folks who work there. I find the interest amazing and charming, no insult intended.
 

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Going to London is certainly no bad thing to do - but in dec/Jan ? I dont know that sound like dark cold and wet....