LOL just look at the box

alcoholbob

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Now let's just hope that bit-perfect output will be possible in Vista at some point.
 

montypythizzle

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Originally posted by: Astrallite
Now let's just hope that bit-perfect output will be possible in Vista at some point.

zomg vista not compatible what is that gibberish you speak of :p
 

QueBert

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wow, why is there a Dolphin on the box?

And I love the "SB16 compatible" quip on the box. I know in 1995 that would have been a huge selling point, but in 2007? damn...
 

montypythizzle

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Originally posted by: QueBert
I love the "SB16 compatible" quip on the box. I know in 1995 that would have been a huge selling point, but in 2007? damn...

KEKE liek totly only reeson i bot it unreel turnamant sonds soo gud!!!

but yeah its got a gold pci slot cover ++++points

I really think this product box was created for an Asian audience and adapted so it would sell to Americans IMHO :p
 

alcoholbob

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Originally posted by: montypythizzle
Originally posted by: Astrallite
Now let's just hope that bit-perfect output will be possible in Vista at some point.

zomg vista not compatible what is that gibberish you speak of :p

Right now all the Vista drivers are horrendous, certainly. The only card that's officially supported is the X-Fi (I wonder, Creative business decision?). Windows KMixer is now 32bit floating point and more accurate than ever (and with the X-Fi, you now get TWO resamples at 48KHz!)

DirectSound was ditched, this seems to be the major problem. So any soundcard that previously had measures to bypass Kmixer won't produce output at all in DirectSound mode. (reports of SPDIF DTS playback with multiple soundcards resulted in either just static or garbled noise).

What I've heard, so far, is unless a soundcard has WASAPI support in Vista, regardless of drivers, they won't be seeing Kmixer workarounds/bit-perfect output. So, hopefully this is not true, but all the guys fooling around with Foobar2k w/ Vista have mentioned Kernel Streaming/ASIO doesn't work at all yet in Vista, so its Kmixer resampling for now.
 

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While I don't use an AV-710, bit-perfect digital output is always nice... good DACs are required on the receiving end though. So if your sound card has better DACs, use analog. If your receiver has better DACs, use the receiver. At some point sound stops being digital and gets turned into an analog signal.
 

montypythizzle

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Originally posted by: Astrallite
Originally posted by: montypythizzle
Originally posted by: Astrallite
Now let's just hope that bit-perfect output will be possible in Vista at some point.

zomg vista not compatible what is that gibberish you speak of :p

Right now all the Vista drivers are horrendous, certainly. The only card that's officially supported is the X-Fi (I wonder, Creative business decision?). Windows KMixer is now 32bit floating point and more accurate than ever (and with the X-Fi, you now get TWO resamples at 48KHz!)

DirectSound was ditched, this seems to be the major problem. So any soundcard that previously had measures to bypass Kmixer won't produce output at all in DirectSound mode. (reports of SPDIF DTS playback with multiple soundcards resulted in either just static or garbled noise).

What I've heard, so far, is unless a soundcard has WASAPI support in Vista, regardless of drivers, they won't be seeing Kmixer workarounds/bit-perfect output. So, hopefully this is not true, but all the guys fooling around with Foobar2k w/ Vista have mentioned Kernel Streaming/ASIO doesn't work at all yet in Vista, so its Kmixer resampling for now.

OH er yeah I knew that, NOT!!!

but yeah got my 2nd av710 in the mail today
on board sound can't touch this bad motha
 

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had an av710 as my first optical out card and it worked great..and what a great price for performance. sold it when i upgraded to a turtle beach montego and now a bluegears enspire..decided i wanted a reasonable backup so i never had to use onboard sound for anything..what did i choose for my backup? another av710:)
 

will889

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Originally posted by: montypythizzle
Originally posted by: will889
Even better is the yellow toothed (chain smoker?) gal on the Chaintech AV-512 box looking like she's ready for some action


YellowToothedBabe

your monitor may have the wrong set of colors because her teeth seem white
I'd hit it



Yeah I'd certainly hit it lol, but my monitor is definitely dialed in -- i'm extremely atuned to VGA/GPU settings at all times.