LOL how low can a thief be

Jeff7

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Ok, so Google wasn't helpful - all "poppy box" links were about this theft.

So what the heck is a poppy box?
 

Born2bwire

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Box of lollipops? I don't know. Why is it that the English can't seem to speak English?
 

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There's no such thing as a poppy box - it's referring to the collections box for the Poppy Day charity appeal. Poppy Day AKA Rememberance Day AKA Armistice Day AKA Veterans Day.

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Why is it that the English can't seem to speak English?

Had to facepalm at the stupidity of this, especially with regard to how badly the language has been butchered by Americans.
 

Jeff7

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There's no such thing as a poppy box - it's referring to the collections box for the Poppy Day charity appeal. Poppy Day AKA Rememberance Day AKA Armistice Day AKA Veterans Day.
Thanks.

I'd never heard of poppies mentioned in reference to Veterans Day.


Though come to think of it, I did once buy one of those artificial ones. I guess I didn't have enough experience to identify the artificial version as being a poppy.
 

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There's no such thing as a poppy box - it's referring to the collections box for the Poppy Day charity appeal. Poppy Day AKA Rememberance Day AKA Armistice Day AKA Veterans Day.

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Had to facepalm at the stupidity of this, especially with regard to how badly the language has been butchered by Americans.

It's not my fault they can't talk correctly. Hell, you said it yourself, there is no such thing as a poppy box. Now they're just making words up.
 

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that was here in London. I saw that video on the news. Glad they got him.

those jackasses that do that piss me off.

Yeah even though it may have low monetary value, it's still the fact that they do it, and it's actually a very big sign of disrespect to remembrance day. Also, what else will they steal in the future? I hope he gets a very good punishment to make him think twice about doing something like this again.
 

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Thanks.

I'd never heard of poppies mentioned in reference to Veterans Day.


Though come to think of it, I did once buy one of those artificial ones. I guess I didn't have enough experience to identify the artificial version as being a poppy.
this maybe why:

In the United States of America, the American Legion distributes crepe-paper poppies in exchange for contributions. "Poppy Day" is usually the same as or near Memorial Day in May.[30] However, many Legion groups also make poppies available around November 11.
Americans have 2 days for Veterans. Canada has one and its Nov. 11.

In Canada, the poppy is the official symbol of remembrance worn during the two weeks prior to November 11, after having been adopted in 1921.

You should check out the Ceremony for our Remembrance Day.

here is one from Toronto 2007: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH-NJLm53Tk&feature=related
 

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It's not my fault they can't talk correctly. Hell, you said it yourself, there is no such thing as a poppy box. Now they're just making words up.

It's an obvious colloquialism to anyone who isn't a complete moron.

Really?! That's like the ultimate symbol of remembrance day. That's why everybody wears one around this time.

Or is this just a Canadian thing?

No.

edit: So I just watched the video (couldn't watch at work), and I'm not sure how you guys didn't understand what the "poppy box" is. From the video:

Stealing poppy box money in front of a video camera is rude and stupid.
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Donations for the poppies, worn to remember our fallen soldiers, go to help programs for veterans.

It also mentions a "poppy coin box".
 
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Jeff7

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Really?! That's like the ultimate symbol of remembrance day. That's why everybody wears one around this time.

Or is this just a Canadian thing?
I guess I just never saw a strong enough association so as to commit it to memory. Kind of like Girl Scouts and cookies. I don't view minty cookies as a symbol of Girl Scouts. It just happens to be something they sell.

Same with those cheap artificial poppies. I guess I never really saw them as a symbol for veterans. I'd expect something more like....I don't know, a flag or something of that nature.
Oh well. It's the action itself that matters, not the symbol.
 

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I guess I just never saw a strong enough association so as to commit it to memory. Kind of like Girl Scouts and cookies. I don't view minty cookies as a symbol of Girl Scouts. It just happens to be something they sell.

Same with those cheap artificial poppies. I guess I never really saw them as a symbol for veterans. I'd expect something more like....I don't know, a flag or something of that nature.
Oh well. It's the action itself that matters, not the symbol.

The symbol is very meaningful to a lot of people.
 

Jeff7

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The symbol is very meaningful to a lot of people.
True, but only because of everything it represents.

char *poppy;
:)


To better understand, for me, I guess symbols are kind of a minor thing. The thing they stand for is what's worthy of committing to memory. A symbol is just a thing, an item used as a descriptor for the event or action of importance - at least for me, that's how I think of it.
 

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It's an obvious colloquialism to anyone who isn't a complete moron.

Are you kidding? Poppies are opium, everyone knows this. Why the hell would the British choose to associate heroin with their veterans? Are they trying to imply that they will support their morphine addictions? Please, they're the ones acting like idiots.
 
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Are you kidding? Poppies are opium, everyone knows this. Why the hell would the British choose to associate heroin with their veterans? Are they trying to imply that they will support their morphine addictions? Please, they're the ones acting like idiots.
Opium comes from the opium poppy, genius.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_poppy

And it's not only British for whom this is an important symbol, Australia and NZ use the poppy to commemorate ANZAC day.

Edit - also it seems Americans use the symbol too, so you're also disparaging your own soldiers. Well done.
 
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Thanks for proving my point. Opium comes from poppies. God almighty, are all of you Aussies this dense?
/facepalm

The poppy that is used to commemorate war veterans is not necessarily the opium poppy. And even if it were, why would you infer that we're supporting heroin use in vets? That's, frankly, retarded. A lot of countries, yours included, use the poppy of a symbol of wartime remembrance. You're making a fool of yourself, as per usual.
 

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In Flanders Fields
By: Lieutenant Colonel John McCrae, MD (1872-1918)
Canadian Army


[SIZE=+1]In Flanders Fields the poppies blow[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]Between the crosses row on row,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]That mark our place; and in the sky[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]The larks, still bravely singing, fly[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]Scarce heard amid the guns below.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]We are the Dead. Short days ago[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]Loved and were loved, and now we lie[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]In Flanders fields.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]Take up our quarrel with the foe:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]To you from failing hands we throw[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]The torch; be yours to hold it high.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]If ye break faith with us who die[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]We shall not sleep, though poppies grow[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]In Flanders fields.

http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/flanders.htm
[/SIZE]
 
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Thanks for cementing my point IronWing. This poem is where poppies first became a symbol of WW1 remembrance. It has nothing to do with heroin.
 

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Are you kidding? Poppies are opium, everyone knows this. Why the hell would the British choose to associate heroin with their veterans? Are they trying to imply that they will support their morphine addictions? Please, they're the ones acting like idiots.
I am not sure if you are being serious or just annoying.

The poppy is the symbol because that's what was flowering around Flander's Field in Belgium during WWI and made famous by John McCrae's poem.

see video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IDXtP8Pk94
 
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Thanks for cementing my point IronWing. This poem is where poppies first became a symbol of WW1 remembrance. It has nothing to do with heroin.

Shows what you know. That limey farmer Flanders was growing a whole field of black tar there. I mean c'mon.

"We shall not sleep, though poppies grow..."

Have you ever seen a heroin addict sleep? They don't, at best they go into a kind of dreamlike daze that the poet here is obviously referring to. He's also referring to the morphine derived from poppies which acted as a panacea for the soldier's pain and even a final release into endless sleep if they were beyond hope.
 

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Shows what you know. That limey farmer Flanders was growing a whole field of black tar there. I mean c'mon.

"We shall not sleep, though poppies grow..."

Have you ever seen a heroin addict sleep? They don't, at best they go into a kind of dreamlike daze that the poet here is obviously referring to. He's also referring to the morphine derived from poppies which acted as a panacea for the soldier's pain and even a final release into endless sleep if they were beyond hope.

I award you one
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for this post.