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Loki must pay $1,000,000 fine !!!

This is so stupid, I'm glad I'm in the movie industry, because I'm progressive, and I understand that people will steal my movies, so I'll eventually charter to that hopefully. I think it's stupid that the MPAA does what it does, why can't they come up with a "iMovies" so we can buy movies for like $4-5 a movie. I know I would instead of renting them. It's just SOOO stupid. Are they gonna sue everyone in America now?
 
Originally posted by: Quasmo
This is so stupid, I'm glad I'm in the movie industry, because I'm progressive, and I understand that people will steal my movies, so I'll eventually charter to that hopefully. I think it's stupid that the MPAA does what it does, why can't they come up with a "iMovies" so we can buy movies for like $4-5 a movie. I know I would instead of renting them. It's just SOOO stupid. Are they gonna sue everyone in America now?
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Your "iMovies" idea already exists, and is called "Netflix". The issue with movie downloaders is that they aren't downloading instead of renting, they are downloading instead of going to the theater.
But yes, any content provider should accept some level of piracy, and I imagine that the MPAA will feel some level of backlash in the short term from its actions here. But when the dust settles, they will have more control over their content than ever.
 
Originally posted by: Vic
But yes, any content provider should accept some level of piracy, and I imagine that the MPAA will feel some level of backlash in the short term from its actions here.
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I'm already giving up movies for all of 2005 because of what happened in late December. It's not that I download movies(no, really, I don't), but I don't like this high&mighty mentality and power that the MPAA has seemed to develop.
 
Originally posted by: SuperTool
We need tort reform. This liberal media is getting out of control.
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Little bit non sequitur there.?

Unless you're saying that the MPAA is part of the 'media'?
 
Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: Vic
But yes, any content provider should accept some level of piracy, and I imagine that the MPAA will feel some level of backlash in the short term from its actions here.
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I'm already giving up movies for all of 2005 because of what happened in late December. It's not that I download movies(no, really, I don't), but I don't like this high&mighty mentality and power that the MPAA has seemed to develop.
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They're protecting their product. They have every right to sue individuals caught illegally distributing their products.

I don't agree that every movie downloaded is revenue lost, but the availabilty of movies over P2P networks has cost the industry.
 
Originally posted by: brigden
Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: Vic
But yes, any content provider should accept some level of piracy, and I imagine that the MPAA will feel some level of backlash in the short term from its actions here.
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I'm already giving up movies for all of 2005 because of what happened in late December. It's not that I download movies(no, really, I don't), but I don't like this high&mighty mentality and power that the MPAA has seemed to develop.
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They're protecting their product. They have every right to sue individuals caught illegally distributing their products.

I don't agree that every movie downloaded is revenue lost, but the availabilty of movies over P2P networks has cost the industry.
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100% correct. Even if they've not actually cost the movie industry (and somehow the marketing of downloading has helped people see a movie, though I don't buy that given how good mpeg4 compression is), it's still their legal right to defend their property. It would be stupid of them not to. They may be going about this the wrong way but if I was in their shoes I'd still be trying to do something. I know people who don't buy CDs anymore and have not since MP3s came out. That's money out of the RIAA's pocket. I know people who no longer go to/rent movies; they just download them all. Again, money out of the MPAA's pocket. A service previously considered by that user to be worth the money no longer is, because they can get the same product for free.
they have my ip now. :sad face:
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I wouldn't worry much. Loki was a huge site, so they've got the IP address of hundreds of thousands, at least. Chances of them getting you are slim. They can't sue everybody, and I think that as with the RIAA, the MPAA is trying to see how their initial round of lawsuits affects downloading; if they can scare people away I think it will be beneficial for them (less money wasted on lawyers) and beneficial for their "customers" (ie. if you're not sued by the MPAA you may still go to their movies in the theater, but that would be hard to swallow if you just paid out $5k to settle -- you'd hate them forever!).
 
Originally posted by: brigden
Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: Vic
But yes, any content provider should accept some level of piracy, and I imagine that the MPAA will feel some level of backlash in the short term from its actions here.
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I'm already giving up movies for all of 2005 because of what happened in late December. It's not that I download movies(no, really, I don't), but I don't like this high&mighty mentality and power that the MPAA has seemed to develop.
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They're protecting their product. They have every right to sue individuals caught illegally distributing their products.
I don't agree that every movie downloaded is revenue lost, but the availabilty of movies over P2P networks has cost the industry.
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I agree, but I disagree with the gestapo tactics that they use to enforce their copyrights. I also think that in many cases, the fines are not commensurate with the crimes; they just use some arbitrary large number to try to dissuade others.

Going forward, the MPAA should offer a Netflix-like service over the Net and use DRM so that you can only have X amount of movies "out" at a time and you can "return" them online through some procedure that invalidates/deletes the file you have.
 
I agree, but I disagree with the gestapo tactics that they use to enforce their copyrights. I also think that in many cases, the fines are not commensurate with the crimes; they just use some arbitrary large number to try to dissuade others.

Going forward, the MPAA should offer a Netflix-like service over the Net and use DRM so that you can only have X amount of movies "out" at a time and you can "return" them online through some procedure that invalidates/deletes the file you have.
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Gestapo? What else can they do? No, the fines are not commensurate with the crimes, but punishment never is. If I steal a CD player from bestbuy my punishment is not merely a $30 fine; I end up in jail. The justice system as a whole relies on exageratted punishment for a crime, because it has to dissuade others. It can't possibly catch and punish all criminals.
 
I have no sympathy. If you can afford a PC, DSL/cable, DVD burner and blanks then you can easily afford a Blockbuster or Netflix subscription.
 
Originally posted by: amdfanboy
Originally posted by: SuperTool
We need tort reform. This liberal media is getting out of control.
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Little bit non sequitur there.?

Unless you're saying that the MPAA is part of the 'media'?
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:music:Keep trollin' trollin' trollin':music:
 
Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
Originally posted by: brigden
Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: Vic
But yes, any content provider should accept some level of piracy, and I imagine that the MPAA will feel some level of backlash in the short term from its actions here.
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I'm already giving up movies for all of 2005 because of what happened in late December. It's not that I download movies(no, really, I don't), but I don't like this high&mighty mentality and power that the MPAA has seemed to develop.
Click to expand...
They're protecting their product. They have every right to sue individuals caught illegally distributing their products.
I don't agree that every movie downloaded is revenue lost, but the availabilty of movies over P2P networks has cost the industry.
Click to expand...
I agree, but I disagree with the gestapo tactics that they use to enforce their copyrights. I also think that in many cases, the fines are not commensurate with the crimes; they just use some arbitrary large number to try to dissuade others.

Going forward, the MPAA should offer a Netflix-like service over the Net and use DRM so that you can only have X amount of movies "out" at a time and you can "return" them online through some procedure that invalidates/deletes the file you have.
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Gestapo tactics? How would you propose they combat this illegal activity?

It makes me sick when people feel sorry for some fourteen-year-old caught downloading copywrited material, pulling together a fund for his plight, and denouncing the MIAA as "evil facists bastards."

If you aren't willing to accept the consequences for illegally downloading and distributing movies and music, don't download the material to begin with.
 
Originally posted by: brigden
Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: Vic
But yes, any content provider should accept some level of piracy, and I imagine that the MPAA will feel some level of backlash in the short term from its actions here.
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I'm already giving up movies for all of 2005 because of what happened in late December. It's not that I download movies(no, really, I don't), but I don't like this high&mighty mentality and power that the MPAA has seemed to develop.
Click to expand...

They're protecting their product. They have every right to sue individuals caught illegally distributing their products.

I don't agree that every movie downloaded is revenue lost, but the availabilty of movies over P2P networks has cost the industry.
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I totally agree. I'm not sure how people rationalize that stealing copyrighted movies is okay...
 
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