Logitech G51 Gaming Speakers- I Want to Cry

[tdawg]

Originally posted by: Skacer
Best pc speakers I've ever seen and a serious lack of anything since:

http://www.firingsquad.com/har...roccoxfire/default.asp
http://www.anandtech.com/multimedia/showdoc.aspx?i=1176

Can you even buy these any more?

I can vaguely remember when I originally read this review. Thanks for the trip down memory lane. 🙂

 

[JPB]

LOL, when I read that review, I thought first hand that they were something new. But its dated for February 19, 2000. And i'm going to tell you right now...there is NO way these speakers ever have or ever will compare to Logitech Z-5500's. Sure, they may have been good in the day...but now ?

In Best Buy when I bought mine, I listened to them compared to the Klipsh Pro Media's. And there was no way I was choosing Klipsh after I heard the Z-5500's.

 

[Skacer]

Originally posted by: JPB
there is NO way these speakers ever have or ever will compare to Logitech Z-5500's. Sure, they may have been good in the day...but now ?

You really shouldn't be so sure of that.

 

[Golgatha]

Originally posted by: EricMartello

Originally posted by: Skacer
Games/Music/Movies. What is the difference? People justify spending several thousand on the sound systems for their home theaters.

There is a real significant difference between a cheap 40 dollar sound system a $450 one.

There is a lot of difference, and a lot of these differences are obvious if you compare playback side-by-side. If you are used to crappy sounding $40 speakers, you may think that is all you need. But if you go to Tweeter or any other high-end audio/video store and spend some time auditioning the different systems, you should be able to hear a substantial difference. Bring a CD that has music you listen to often to the store, then you can compare more effectively.

As for spending money on quality computer speakers, why not? Sound is just as important to a game as graphics, and quality speakers will let you enjoy the games a lot more. A high quality 2.1 setup, along with today's 3D sound technology, can be very visceral when playing games. You really hear sounds coming from all around you.

I agree. In Bioshock, the Medical Building is just plain creepy with all the maniacal laughter coming from everywhere on my 2.1 setup. I'm using 2x5.25in JBL Northridge speakers, a dual 8in Yamaha subwoofer, and a Yamaha amp hooked up via optical output from my X-Fi Gamer card.

 

[NaOH]

Originally posted by: Deinonych

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Love my Klipsch

:thumbsup:

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: Ichigo

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: Ichigo
No digital inputs.

Digital input is overrated...especially when any good soundcard should be able to handle the decoding.

I hate my X-Fi. That said, I use headphones (HD280's).

Digital inputs for my 360. So no, don't make random assumptions. I didn't mean that the lack of digital input made the product a failure.

Edit: I'd much rather spend a few hundred on speakers before a soundcard. X-Fi w/ Z5300E's or Z5500's by themselves? You figure it out.

Buy a real HT setup for your 360 and movies...leave PC speakers for PC games.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: foghorn67
Hate my Klipsch, stupid amp blows worse than the XBOX RROD.

Logitech or custom setup for life!

That's why I've had mine since release and never failed? Yeah

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: JPB
LOL, when I read that review, I thought first hand that they were something new. But its dated for February 19, 2000. And i'm going to tell you right now...there is NO way these speakers ever have or ever will compare to Logitech Z-5500's. Sure, they may have been good in the day...but now ?

In Best Buy when I bought mine, I listened to them compared to the Klipsh Pro Media's. And there was no way I was choosing Klipsh after I heard the Z-5500's.

Logitech speakers have boomy bass...if you want mud fine by me. Klipsch sound MUCH MUCH more natural and neitral than logitech speakers. I did own a Logitech set and would never ever ever subject myself to that garbage again. I'd rather buy speakers from a speaker manufacturer. You don't go to Ford to buy parts for your lawn mower do you?

 

[Ika]

You don't go to Ford to buy parts for your lawn mower do you?

No... but you can go to Honda 😉

 

[JPB]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: JPB
LOL, when I read that review, I thought first hand that they were something new. But its dated for February 19, 2000. And i'm going to tell you right now...there is NO way these speakers ever have or ever will compare to Logitech Z-5500's. Sure, they may have been good in the day...but now ?

In Best Buy when I bought mine, I listened to them compared to the Klipsh Pro Media's. And there was no way I was choosing Klipsh after I heard the Z-5500's.

Logitech speakers have boomy bass...if you want mud fine by me. Klipsch sound MUCH MUCH more natural and neitral than logitech speakers. I did own a Logitech set and would never ever ever subject myself to that garbage again. I'd rather buy speakers from a speaker manufacturer. You don't go to Ford to buy parts for your lawn mower do you?

Actually, The Ford garage would sell a spark plug that can be cross referenced to work in a weed eater or a lawn mower. LoL.

But back on topic, I just meant the OP's listed speakers couldnt be compared to the Z-5500's. Not any speakers in general. But as to what I heard in best buy, the Logitech set ( to me ) sounded better than the Pro Media's. Klipsh could be better though, maybe Best Buy had something fubard with them, never know. But I do know im quite satisfied with the Logitech set.

 

[Ichigo]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: Ichigo

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: Ichigo
No digital inputs.

Digital input is overrated...especially when any good soundcard should be able to handle the decoding.

I hate my X-Fi. That said, I use headphones (HD280's).

Digital inputs for my 360. So no, don't make random assumptions. I didn't mean that the lack of digital input made the product a failure.

Edit: I'd much rather spend a few hundred on speakers before a soundcard. X-Fi w/ Z5300E's or Z5500's by themselves? You figure it out.

Buy a real HT setup for your 360 and movies...leave PC speakers for PC games.

Um... no.

Putting me aside for the moment, why are PC games not worthy of the same audio components as a 360 somehow?

 

[Don66]

Originally posted by: NaOH

Originally posted by: Deinonych

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Love my Klipsch

:thumbsup:

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

:thumbsup: :thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[Extelleron]

Originally posted by: JPB
LOL, when I read that review, I thought first hand that they were something new. But its dated for February 19, 2000. And i'm going to tell you right now...there is NO way these speakers ever have or ever will compare to Logitech Z-5500's. Sure, they may have been good in the day...but now ?

In Best Buy when I bought mine, I listened to them compared to the Klipsh Pro Media's. And there was no way I was choosing Klipsh after I heard the Z-5500's.

That kind of logic might work in certain fast-moving parts of the electronics world, such as with TVs or computers, but not with speakers/audio equipment. It's a slower world and just because something is 10 years old doesn't mean it can't sound better than something new. I can pretty much guarantee you that there's nothing you can buy in Best Buy or Circuit City that would sound as good as a pair of Thiel CS3.6s, for example, and they were released in the early 1990s.

 

[Thump553]

Originally posted by: Extelleron

Originally posted by: JPB
LOL, when I read that review, I thought first hand that they were something new. But its dated for February 19, 2000. And i'm going to tell you right now...there is NO way these speakers ever have or ever will compare to Logitech Z-5500's. Sure, they may have been good in the day...but now ?

In Best Buy when I bought mine, I listened to them compared to the Klipsh Pro Media's. And there was no way I was choosing Klipsh after I heard the Z-5500's.

That kind of logic might work in certain fast-moving parts of the electronics world, such as with TVs or computers, but not with speakers/audio equipment. It's a slower world and just because something is 10 years old doesn't mean it can't sound better than something new. I can pretty much guarantee you that there's nothing you can buy in Best Buy or Circuit City that would sound as good as a pair of Thiel CS3.6s, for example, and they were released in the early 1990s.

Quite true. The best audio speakers I ever owned I bought in the early 70's (the original, handbuilt Advents-later called the large Advents). I've spent a lot more on several speaker sets since then, but none have surpassed them.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: Ichigo

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: Ichigo

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: Ichigo
No digital inputs.

Digital input is overrated...especially when any good soundcard should be able to handle the decoding.

I hate my X-Fi. That said, I use headphones (HD280's).

Digital inputs for my 360. So no, don't make random assumptions. I didn't mean that the lack of digital input made the product a failure.

Edit: I'd much rather spend a few hundred on speakers before a soundcard. X-Fi w/ Z5300E's or Z5500's by themselves? You figure it out.

Buy a real HT setup for your 360 and movies...leave PC speakers for PC games.

Um... no.

Putting me aside for the moment, why are PC games not worthy of the same audio components as a 360 somehow?

Because a HT system is more robust than what a PC would be capable of outputting (baring movies and music). Gaming IMO does not necessarily require a $2000 HT system. You typically want channel separation and a solid bass and that can be had easily for alot less money with PC speakers. I use my 360 for my HDDVD player as well so maybe I'm a little biast against using PC speakers which IMO do not fit well in the role of doing 7.1 surround in Dolby TrueHD.

 

[Ichigo]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: Ichigo

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: Ichigo

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: Ichigo
No digital inputs.

Digital input is overrated...especially when any good soundcard should be able to handle the decoding.

I hate my X-Fi. That said, I use headphones (HD280's).

Digital inputs for my 360. So no, don't make random assumptions. I didn't mean that the lack of digital input made the product a failure.

Edit: I'd much rather spend a few hundred on speakers before a soundcard. X-Fi w/ Z5300E's or Z5500's by themselves? You figure it out.

Buy a real HT setup for your 360 and movies...leave PC speakers for PC games.

Um... no.

Putting me aside for the moment, why are PC games not worthy of the same audio components as a 360 somehow?

Because a HT system is more robust than what a PC would be capable of outputting (baring movies and music). Gaming IMO does not necessarily require a $2000 HT system. You typically want channel separation and a solid bass and that can be had easily for alot less money with PC speakers. I use my 360 for my HDDVD player as well so maybe I'm a little biast against using PC speakers which IMO do not fit well in the role of doing 7.1 surround in Dolby TrueHD.

I'm simply not an audiophile to that extreme.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: Ichigo

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: Ichigo

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: Ichigo

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: Ichigo
No digital inputs.

Digital input is overrated...especially when any good soundcard should be able to handle the decoding.

I hate my X-Fi. That said, I use headphones (HD280's).

Digital inputs for my 360. So no, don't make random assumptions. I didn't mean that the lack of digital input made the product a failure.

Edit: I'd much rather spend a few hundred on speakers before a soundcard. X-Fi w/ Z5300E's or Z5500's by themselves? You figure it out.

Buy a real HT setup for your 360 and movies...leave PC speakers for PC games.

Um... no.

Putting me aside for the moment, why are PC games not worthy of the same audio components as a 360 somehow?

Because a HT system is more robust than what a PC would be capable of outputting (baring movies and music). Gaming IMO does not necessarily require a $2000 HT system. You typically want channel separation and a solid bass and that can be had easily for alot less money with PC speakers. I use my 360 for my HDDVD player as well so maybe I'm a little biast against using PC speakers which IMO do not fit well in the role of doing 7.1 surround in Dolby TrueHD.

I'm simply not an audiophile to that extreme.

I'm no audiophile but when I play movies I can tell the difference between high end systems and low-mid range sets.

 

[0roo0roo]

the specs look weenie for "gaming" speakers. i thought the "G" was premium for logitech, like with their nutty gaming kb?

the subwoofer is just weak... 200 dollars? too much for what thats putting out.

 

[Ichigo]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: Ichigo

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: Ichigo

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: Ichigo

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: Ichigo
No digital inputs.

Digital input is overrated...especially when any good soundcard should be able to handle the decoding.

I hate my X-Fi. That said, I use headphones (HD280's).

Digital inputs for my 360. So no, don't make random assumptions. I didn't mean that the lack of digital input made the product a failure.

Edit: I'd much rather spend a few hundred on speakers before a soundcard. X-Fi w/ Z5300E's or Z5500's by themselves? You figure it out.

Buy a real HT setup for your 360 and movies...leave PC speakers for PC games.

Um... no.

Putting me aside for the moment, why are PC games not worthy of the same audio components as a 360 somehow?

Because a HT system is more robust than what a PC would be capable of outputting (baring movies and music). Gaming IMO does not necessarily require a $2000 HT system. You typically want channel separation and a solid bass and that can be had easily for alot less money with PC speakers. I use my 360 for my HDDVD player as well so maybe I'm a little biast against using PC speakers which IMO do not fit well in the role of doing 7.1 surround in Dolby TrueHD.

I'm simply not an audiophile to that extreme.

I'm no audiophile but when I play movies I can tell the difference between high end systems and low-mid range sets.

And when I'm man enough to make that $1700jump, I'll let you know if it was worth it.

 

[Hauk]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Digital input is overrated...especially when any good soundcard should be able to handle the decoding.

Agreed cmdrdedd.

OP, I bought the Z-5300e recently as well. My experience, the Z-5300e satellites lack crisp mids and highs. Killer bass from the sub however. I'm betting Logitech's attempted to balance the G51 system with two drivers per satellite, and a lower power sub. If the satellites deliver, G51 looks to be a nice system.