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ValkyrieofHouston

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By STEVE MCVICKER
Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle

The Houston Police Department officer who pulls down more pay than anyone in the department outside of the chief is also one of the most reprimanded officers on the force.

Last year, senior officer William Lindsey Jr. grossed more than $170,000 ? over $100,000 of it in overtime ? as a member of the HPD's drunken driving task force.

However, in his 27-year career, the department's internal affairs division has upheld at least 32 allegations against Lindsey arising out of 23 separate complaints. Only 13 of HPD's 4,760 officers have been involved in more than 23 complaints resulting in "sustained" allegations, according to department records through 2004.

Internal affairs sustains an allegation after investigating and finding merit in complaints that come from the public and from within the department. The chief then decides discipline.

The complaints against Lindsey include verbally abusing citizens, falsifying time sheets to reflect overtime he didn't work and refusing to report for duty, according to documents obtained by the Houston Chronicle through the Texas Open Records Act. His punishment has ranged from being ordered to undergo counseling to being suspended for 15 days without pay. In nine of the complaints, Lindsey's discipline included unpaid leave.

But since the Texas attorney general ruled in 2000 that law enforcement agencies do not have to publicly reveal disciplinary action against an officer that resulted only in a written or oral reprimand, the number of sustained allegations against Lindsey could total more than 32.

'I'm shocked'
As a matter of policy, HPD keeps tabs on officers who repeatedly are the focus of internal affairs investigations.

"At some point their name is flagged and we do follow-up, which involves putting them in this monitoring program that we have ? with the intent that they either shape up or ship out," said Lt. Robert Manzo, an HPD spokesman.

But several law enforcement officials contacted by the paper expressed surprise that a police officer with Lindsey's record was able to keep his job.

"I'm shocked," said the head of an internal affairs division for one Texas law enforcement agency, who asked not to be named out of fear of reprisals by his employer. "If the internal affairs file of an officer has 32 sustained cases, something's wrong with (that department's) system if he's still employed."

Other law enforcement officials who expressed similar sentiments also asked not to be named.

Lindsey, 50, did not respond to messages seeking his comment.

Lindsey's police career began in 1977 after he graduated from Florida State University with a degree in criminology and enrolled in the HPD academy. He was assigned to the southwest patrol division. He also has worked in the jail, the westside command station and the traffic and accident division, where he is currently assigned.

HPD records show that Lindsey has consistently scored well on employee evaluations, although he occasionally received lower grades for cooperation and loyalty. His personnel file also contains numerous letters of commendation from citizens expressing their appreciation for his response to incidents such as burglaries and robberies.

For example, in September 1982, Houston resident Linda Gruskiewicz wrote that, after her apartment was burglarized, Lindsey and another officer "were at my apartment within 15 minutes. They were courteous, took the time to explain the procedures to me, and suggested ways to prevent a future break-in."

Assistant U.S. Attorney Jeff Vaden, who used to prosecute DWI cases for Harris County, remembers Lindsey as a dependable witness.

"Lindsey could be one of the better witnesses," Vaden said. "I knew he had some disciplinary issues in the past, but it never to my knowledge posed any problems with him testifying."

But the records also point to a darker side.

List of complaints
HPD records show that:

?In November 1981, a man involved in a disturbance objected to Lindsey's language and filed a complaint against him. It was sustained and Lindsey was ordered to undergo counseling.
?In October 1983, Lindsey received his first suspension for not turning in as evidence marijuana found on two suspects arrested for public intoxication. Then-Police Chief Lee P. Brown ordered him to serve a one-day suspension without pay.
?In September 1987, Brown again suspended Lindsey for one day after the officer "turned off his radio and failed to maintain communications or answer calls," the records show.
?In November 1991, Lindsey was suspended for 10 days after his firearm discharged while he was chasing on foot a vehicle occupied by several men who had been involved in a fight.
?In April 1999, Lindsey received a one-day suspension for dragging an uncooperative DWI prisoner who was handcuffed and whom Lindsey was attempting to videotape.
?In September 2002, a Hedwig Village police officer intervened in an argument between Lindsey and a citizen when the Hedwig Village officer realized the situation was "getting out of control," according to the HPD report. The case was eventually resolved with Lindsey receiving a written reprimand. However, according to Cory LaMarsh, who filed the complaint, the HPD report is incomplete, and Lindsey deserved harsher punishment. LaMarsh, 40, says he was working a construction job near the Galleria when he and Lindsey exchanged heated words after the officer accused LaMarsh of jaywalking.
"It got really wild, and he handcuffed me and threw me up against the car," said LaMarsh, who now lives in Arkansas. He added that during the incident, Lindsey threatened to run over him.

"He said, 'Boy, next time I'll kill you,' " LaMarsh said.

Most severe punishment
LaMarsh, who has misdemeanor convictions for DWI, theft by check and possession of a prohibited weapon, filed a complaint with HPD but says he later dropped the case at his employer's request.

LaMarsh's allegations notwithstanding, Lindsey received his most severe punishment in April 1990 when then-Chief Elizabeth Watson suspended him for 15 days without pay for submitting several false overtime pay requests.

According to Watson's report, "Lindsey submitted at least four separate overtime request forms for payment ... (for) overtime hours not actually worked by (Lindsey), and for which he was not lawfully entitled."

The memorandum said Lindsey's action could have resulted in criminal charges. The internal affairs division official, who asked not to be named, questions why no charges were ever filed.

"That's a third-degree felony crime, to falsify a government document or record under Texas law. And time sheets are government records," said the law enforcement official.

HPD spokesman Manzo says the case was referred to a grand jury. No charges were filed.

Attorneys' allegations
The sustained complaint of overtime fraud against Lindsey from 1990 is noteworthy because recent accusations by DWI defense attorneys that Lindsey and other DWI task force members manipulate the HPD overtime system by tag-teaming onto one another's cases. Each of the officers involved in a case is then subpoenaed to testify during the trial, thereby accumulating more overtime hours, the defense lawyers say.

City pay records show that eight DWI task force officers were paid a total of $317,000 in overtime in 2005. In 2004, Lindsey made more than $85,000 in overtime.

Chronicle reporter Matt Stiles and researcher Anita Hassan contributed to this story.

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CVSiN

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yup real winners we have working for us here...
Wonder why the dept. didnt kick him to the curb along time ago.. oh thats right casue half the dept hs more of rap sheet than him..

freaking POS HPD
 

ValkyrieofHouston

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Originally posted by: Tobolo
Where do I sign up for that job?


Come on down to Htown, the heat is on with the media all over HPD cops, you sure you want to be in the limelight? GRIN

:roll:

Might want to consider another city honey...
 

preslove

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I guess this is one of the reasons why houston is considered such a hell hole.
 

Svnla

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Some questions:

He is there for 27 years and still an officer and why can't he be fired?

Note: I was in Houston for a visit, made a call to report a break in, HPD didn't show up until 3 hours later. Talk about rapid response.
 

ValkyrieofHouston

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I am trying to find that one news article they had a while back where the HPD cop pulled this woman over late at night and tried to intimidate her into a BJ... it got ugly, and he got caught. I'll post it as soon as I find the article.
 

Phoenix86

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Of course he has the most reprimands, he has the most time on the job.

/snicker
 

CVSiN

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not to mention the article that says Houston Police are amoung the slowest dept in the US to respond.

was 6 hours for a rape in progress call
8 for a robbery in progress

was crazy amounts of time..
for violent in progress crimes..

 

preslove

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Originally posted by: Svnla


He is there for 27 years and still an officer and why can't he be fired?

Police Unions are extremely powerful. It's very hard to get rid of officers in some communities.
 

GeneValgene

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Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
I am trying to find that one news article they had a while back where the HPD cop pulled this woman over late at night and tried to intimidate her into a BJ... it got ugly, and he got caught. I'll post it as soon as I find the article.

dayum...is that the same cop as this guy?
 

ValkyrieofHouston

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Here is how I see our problem here in Houston... alot of officers have quit, and HPD forced the retirement of alot of good officers. We are left with some bad apples on the force and a few rookies... and not enough officers to cover the city and surrounding areas to protect citizens. Honestly it pisses me off.
 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Your signature perfectly describes you and your redundant posts about police corruption.

you people are morons.. this is headlines (bold headlines first on the page in Houston Chronicle today)

Why must it always be attacks on Val for posting breaking news..

Some of you morons really need to cheak yourselves.

This is big news here and everyone has been talking about it for days.. as well as the other Police Misdoings of late here in Houston..

When LAPD was in the news noone bitched when people posted negative news stories about them.
and you dont flame other members when they post things.. what is this boards hardon for Val?

 

dabuddha

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Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Your signature perfectly describes you and your redundant posts about police corruption.

you people are morons.. this is headlines (bold headlines first on the page in Houston Chronicle today)

Why must it always be attacks on Val for posting breaking news..

Some of you morons really need to cheak yourselves.

This is big news here and everyone has been talking about it for days.. as well as the other Police Misdoings of late here in Houston..

When LAPD was in the news noone bitched when people posted negative news stories about them.
and you dont flame other members when they post things.. what is this boards hardon for Val?

Well for one thing, we have a separate forum for politics & news. Perhaps the both of you can take your flaim bait craptastic posts into that cess pool instead of sullying our serene waters :D
 

RagingBITCH

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Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Your signature perfectly describes you and your redundant posts about police corruption.

you people are morons.. this is headlines (bold headlines first on the page in Houston Chronicle today)

Why must it always be attacks on Val for posting breaking news..

Some of you morons really need to cheak yourselves.

This is big news here and everyone has been talking about it for days.. as well as the other Police Misdoings of late here in Houston..

When LAPD was in the news noone bitched when people posted negative news stories about them.
and you dont flame other members when they post things.. what is this boards hardon for Val?

Oh man, CVSin is calling me a moron. Hell must have frozen over. :roll:

Everyone one of her posts is about police corruption. I don't give a sh!t. She's a call girl, she hates cops. Wow, lets hear it every post shall we?
 

ValkyrieofHouston

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Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Your signature perfectly describes you and your redundant posts about police corruption.

you people are morons.. this is headlines (bold headlines first on the page in Houston Chronicle today)

Why must it always be attacks on Val for posting breaking news..

Some of you morons really need to cheak yourselves.

This is big news here and everyone has been talking about it for days.. as well as the other Police Misdoings of late here in Houston..

When LAPD was in the news noone bitched when people posted negative news stories about them.
and you dont flame other members when they post things.. what is this boards hardon for Val?

Well for one thing, we have a separate forum for politics & news. Perhaps the both of you can take your flaim bait craptastic posts into that cess pool instead of sullying our serene waters :D


That is what I love about ATOT, they allow just about anyone the right to freely express themselves within limits... and many have posted current news events on this board. Many have participated in discussing the news related events... and bantered and flamed one another... and it's all good...

sooooo you can kiss our ***! ;)
 

dabuddha

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Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Your signature perfectly describes you and your redundant posts about police corruption.

you people are morons.. this is headlines (bold headlines first on the page in Houston Chronicle today)

Why must it always be attacks on Val for posting breaking news..

Some of you morons really need to cheak yourselves.

This is big news here and everyone has been talking about it for days.. as well as the other Police Misdoings of late here in Houston..

When LAPD was in the news noone bitched when people posted negative news stories about them.
and you dont flame other members when they post things.. what is this boards hardon for Val?

Well for one thing, we have a separate forum for politics & news. Perhaps the both of you can take your flaim bait craptastic posts into that cess pool instead of sullying our serene waters :D


That is what I love about ATOT, they allow just about anyone the right to freely express themselves within limits... and many have posted current news events on this board. Many have participated in discussing the news related events... and bantered and flamed one another... and it's all good...

sooooo you can kiss our ***! ;)

No thanks. God knows where it's been :D
 

ValkyrieofHouston

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Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: Svnla


He is there for 27 years and still an officer and why can't he be fired?

Police Unions are extremely powerful. It's very hard to get rid of officers in some communities.


Agreed, but I think after all this media attention it is going to force Mayor White to do something about him and others. The investigation is turning up quite a bit here in Houston.
 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Your signature perfectly describes you and your redundant posts about police corruption.

you people are morons.. this is headlines (bold headlines first on the page in Houston Chronicle today)

Why must it always be attacks on Val for posting breaking news..

Some of you morons really need to cheak yourselves.

This is big news here and everyone has been talking about it for days.. as well as the other Police Misdoings of late here in Houston..

When LAPD was in the news noone bitched when people posted negative news stories about them.
and you dont flame other members when they post things.. what is this boards hardon for Val?

Oh man, CVSin is calling me a moron. Hell must have frozen over. :roll:

Everyone one of her posts is about police corruption. I don't give a sh!t. She's a call girl, she hates cops. Wow, lets hear it every post shall we?

Actually dipsh1t shes NOT a call girl.
shes a live at home mom now.
and she doesnt hate all cops just corrupt ones..
This BS is getting out of hand..
you folks need to get the hell off her ass if you dont like her FINE dont respond
and for the record you are a fvcking moron...
and you act like a schoolyard bully to people like Val whom arnt hurting anyone..

This BS with her previous occupation being brought up every time yall dont agree with her posts is nonsense if you are not smart enough to debate her on facts then just STFU and leave the thread.

And the fact that you guys are such hypocrites when it comes to sex industry... so funny how yall lust over all these porn queens on the internet as long as you dont have the opportunity to bash them for thier jobs or intellect.

Porn on camera is still SEX FOR MONEY its no different than being an escort.. and yall love to watch those web girls do thier thing... yet the second a strong woman from the sex industry comes into your little world you become all high and mighty anti porn anti sex worker...

yall really need to get a reality check..

and in case you are hard of hearing... VAL DOES NOT WORK IN THE SEX INDUSTRY ANYMORE and she has just as much right as anyone else here to post what she feels like..
 

dabuddha

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Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Your signature perfectly describes you and your redundant posts about police corruption.

you people are morons.. this is headlines (bold headlines first on the page in Houston Chronicle today)

Why must it always be attacks on Val for posting breaking news..

Some of you morons really need to cheak yourselves.

This is big news here and everyone has been talking about it for days.. as well as the other Police Misdoings of late here in Houston..

When LAPD was in the news noone bitched when people posted negative news stories about them.
and you dont flame other members when they post things.. what is this boards hardon for Val?

Oh man, CVSin is calling me a moron. Hell must have frozen over. :roll:

Everyone one of her posts is about police corruption. I don't give a sh!t. She's a call girl, she hates cops. Wow, lets hear it every post shall we?

Actually dipsh1t shes NOT a call girl.
shes a live at home mom now.
and she doesnt hate all cops just corrupt ones..
This BS is getting out of hand..
you folks need to get the hell off her ass if you dont like her FINE dont respond
and for the record you are a fvcking moron...
and you act like a schoolyard bully to people like Val whom arnt hurting anyone..

This BS with her previous occupation being brought up every time yall dont agree with her posts is nonsense if you are not smart enough to debate her on facts then just STFU and leave the thread.

And the fact that you guys are such hypocrites when it comes to sex industry... so funny how yall lust over all these porn queens on the internet as long as you dont have the opportunity to bash them for thier jobs or intellect.

Porn on camera is still SEX FOR MONEY its no different than being an escort.. and yall love to watch those web girls do thier thing... yet the second a strong woman from the sex industry comes into your little world you become all high and mighty anti porn anti sex worker...

yall really need to get a reality check..

and in case you are hard of hearing... VAL DOES NOT WORK IN THE SEX INDUSTRY ANYMORE and she has just as much right as anyone else here to post what she feels like..

He made a typo, he meant she WAS a call girl. So you can imagine that people would take her opinions about police officers with a grain of salt. At least people with any sort of common sense would be able to understand this :D.
And you shouldn't be insulting people regarding their intelligence when you two idiots can't figure out how to post your drivel in the proper forum :)
 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Your signature perfectly describes you and your redundant posts about police corruption.

you people are morons.. this is headlines (bold headlines first on the page in Houston Chronicle today)

Why must it always be attacks on Val for posting breaking news..

Some of you morons really need to cheak yourselves.

This is big news here and everyone has been talking about it for days.. as well as the other Police Misdoings of late here in Houston..

When LAPD was in the news noone bitched when people posted negative news stories about them.
and you dont flame other members when they post things.. what is this boards hardon for Val?

Oh man, CVSin is calling me a moron. Hell must have frozen over. :roll:

Everyone one of her posts is about police corruption. I don't give a sh!t. She's a call girl, she hates cops. Wow, lets hear it every post shall we?

Actually dipsh1t shes NOT a call girl.
shes a live at home mom now.
and she doesnt hate all cops just corrupt ones..
This BS is getting out of hand..
you folks need to get the hell off her ass if you dont like her FINE dont respond
and for the record you are a fvcking moron...
and you act like a schoolyard bully to people like Val whom arnt hurting anyone..

This BS with her previous occupation being brought up every time yall dont agree with her posts is nonsense if you are not smart enough to debate her on facts then just STFU and leave the thread.

And the fact that you guys are such hypocrites when it comes to sex industry... so funny how yall lust over all these porn queens on the internet as long as you dont have the opportunity to bash them for thier jobs or intellect.

Porn on camera is still SEX FOR MONEY its no different than being an escort.. and yall love to watch those web girls do thier thing... yet the second a strong woman from the sex industry comes into your little world you become all high and mighty anti porn anti sex worker...

yall really need to get a reality check..

and in case you are hard of hearing... VAL DOES NOT WORK IN THE SEX INDUSTRY ANYMORE and she has just as much right as anyone else here to post what she feels like..

He made a typo, he meant she WAS a call girl. So you can imagine that people would take her opinions about police officers with a grain of salt. At least people with any sort of common sense would be able to understand this :D.
And you shouldn't be insulting people regarding their intelligence when you two idiots can't figure out how to post your drivel in the proper forum :)

No it wasnt a typo.. and it happens in every single thread. and its not just RB that does it..
they cant debate her so they all resort to bashing her over her old profession.

yet these same tools are jerking off to pics/vids of other girls that also get paid to have sex..
and I'd also bet that some of these same tools are customers of brothels in Vegas or Amsterdamn or other places its legal. fuvcking hypocrites.

 

ValkyrieofHouston

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You know, I just did a search of all my posts, and these same guys have posted ****** in all my posts! Apparently they get off on stalking me in all my threads... it must make them feel bigger on the computer (you know that E-Penis Complex Thingy)!

However, I did another search and came up with a multitude of posts where many members here have posted similar posts on cops and corruption. I just picked these four though as examples... http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=38&threadid=1828473&enterthread=y

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=52&threadid=1794432&enterthread=y

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=38&threadid=1810732&enterthread=y

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=52&threadid=1806302&enterthread=y
 

LordMaul

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Uh, the topic was posted for discussion and/or information... Being that it is not a completely irrelavent post, and is relatively interesting, why does it matter who posted it? :confused: