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Deadtrees

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First of all, it was my fault that I posted this thread without having any realiable information on this matter.
Even worse, I couldn't even translate terms into English.
People are getting upset that this isn't true, and the sources aren't reliable at all.
Agreed.
Well, just like all those theories about UFOs, I don't really know if it exists, or not.
It sure sounded interesting.

Please erease the thread, Mod.
 

Pastfinder

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I remember hearing about it on the History Channel. Supposedly some US warship was teleported using Einstein's theory, but the crew on board was all fvcked up because of it. Some people vanished, others were were fused with the ship, ect.
In C&C: Red Alert, you can obtain the option of teleportation. This is a little nod to Einstein and the "Philadelphia Project."

Hollywood made a movie about this as well. I think it is called the "Philadelphia Experiment," but don't hold me to that...
 

Deadtrees

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I heard that story, too. I heard that the ship was vanished, and only half of the ship appeared, again.
Nobody knows what happen to the other half.
 

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The most interesting theory about the Philadelphia Experiment is that the destroyer did in fact disappear and was teleported across space and time. Supposedly, there was a great number of ingenious scientists (including Tesla and Einstein) that were taking part in the experiment. However, Nikola Tesla was supposed to dead at the time of the Naval experiment.

The theory is that light has to be bent around the ship to make it invisible. To accomplish this, the Navy wrapped the ship's circumference in wire and passed a measured current through it. This caused a huge oscillating magnet to form a magnetic field around the ship, not only bending the light, but space and time as well. The physics of the experiment are reminiscent of Einstein's Unified Field Theory that once you bend light, you are also unwittingly bending space and time as well.

The first time this experiment was undertaken, the ship didn't completely disappear, and an imprint of the hull could be seen sitting in the water. The second time, the ship totally disappeared in a green fog and was sighted in Norfolk, Virginia.

A haunting fact is that when the ship reappeared, the crew were all in a state of disorientation. Some were mentally ill, while other crewmen didn't even return. There were also crewmen that returned embedded in the hull. Later accounts arose about the crewmen, including a former crew member who was involved in a bar fight, and all the participants froze in time, as reported by a local newspaper! There were also accounts of people who were on the ship, spontaneously combusting
 

LivinLaVivaPollo

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Man this stuff is cool. I could go back in time and nab the person who stole my bike, freeze him in space time, and then make him spontaneously combust. :D Seriously though, I'm not quite sure what to take of this. I have heard of that story though, but had never assigned a name to it, thanks for now addicting me to quasi-science fiction.
 

Dacalo

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i bet there are a lot of scientific concepts we have yet to discover...
 

everman

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I remember the same thing on the History channel, supposedly some men were even fused with the ship. Whatever happened there, if anything at all, I'm sure further research has been done.
 

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Originally posted by: Deadtrees
The most interesting theory about the Philadelphia Experiment is that the destroyer did in fact disappear and was teleported across space and time. Supposedly, there was a great number of ingenious scientists (including Tesla and Einstein) that were taking part in the experiment. However, Nikola Tesla was supposed to dead at the time of the Naval experiment.

The theory is that light has to be bent around the ship to make it invisible. To accomplish this, the Navy wrapped the ship's circumference in wire and passed a measured current through it. This caused a huge oscillating magnet to form a magnetic field around the ship, not only bending the light, but space and time as well. The physics of the experiment are reminiscent of Einstein's Unified Field Theory that once you bend light, you are also unwittingly bending space and time as well.

The first time this experiment was undertaken, the ship didn't completely disappear, and an imprint of the hull could be seen sitting in the water. The second time, the ship totally disappeared in a green fog and was sighted in Norfolk, Virginia.

A haunting fact is that when the ship reappeared, the crew were all in a state of disorientation. Some were mentally ill, while other crewmen didn't even return. There were also crewmen that returned embedded in the hull. Later accounts arose about the crewmen, including a former crew member who was involved in a bar fight, and all the participants froze in time, as reported by a local newspaper! There were also accounts of people who were on the ship, spontaneously combusting

That basically disproves the theory of conservation of energy/matter. Where'd that energy and matter go?
 

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WTF? I've never heard of this! It sounds too much like sci-fi to me. I'm not sure I believe it actually happened...
 

Looney

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Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Here, you can find some definitions of unified field theory


Basically, it's about combining all the five energizes into one source. It's the core energize before the big-bang.
Mathmatically, it's proven to work, and Einstein's last project was about this theory.

If this works, something like Teleporting is possible as well as all the other things that just seems impossible.
With this, one can actually disassemble an object, and assemble it later on, just like T.V getting signal in the air, and converting it on a screen.

Of course, Military tested this with scientists such as Einstein. The resulf was somewhat bizzare.




"...men caught fire, went mad, and - the most bizarre of all, some were embedded halfway into the deck of the ship. Others phased in and out of this reality..."


Alright, i don't know much about physics, but i know that you're definitely wrong here. The unified field theory isn't about combining all 5 energies into one single source, but to combine all the forces into a single theory (strong, weak, electromagnetic, and gravitational forces). And no, it hasn't been mathematically proven yet, they're still working on it.

And i don't know how the hell you were able to relate the Unified theory to the Philadelphia experiment.


 

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Q]That basically disproves the theory of conservation of energy/matter. Where'd that energy and matter go? [/quote]


Umm. You should ask Dr. Einstien as it's his theory.
All I know is very basic information on how this is possible.
You should search the web.
 

StormRider

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Originally posted by: StormRider
WTF? I've never heard of this! It sounds too much like sci-fi to me. I'm not sure I believe it actually happened...

I'm talking about the Philadelphia Experiment. If we had actually made people reappear halfway in a hull, I think more people would have heard about it. Also, I doubt that we would do experiments like this with a live crew on board -- we would first test things on an unmaned vessel.
 

littleprince

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Originally posted by: Deadtrees
The most interesting theory about the Philadelphia Experiment is that the destroyer did in fact disappear and was teleported across space and time. Supposedly, there was a great number of ingenious scientists (including Tesla and Einstein) that were taking part in the experiment. However, Nikola Tesla was supposed to dead at the time of the Naval experiment.

The theory is that light has to be bent around the ship to make it invisible. To accomplish this, the Navy wrapped the ship's circumference in wire and passed a measured current through it. This caused a huge oscillating magnet to form a magnetic field around the ship, not only bending the light, but space and time as well. The physics of the experiment are reminiscent of Einstein's Unified Field Theory that once you bend light, you are also unwittingly bending space and time as well.

The first time this experiment was undertaken, the ship didn't completely disappear, and an imprint of the hull could be seen sitting in the water. The second time, the ship totally disappeared in a green fog and was sighted in Norfolk, Virginia.

A haunting fact is that when the ship reappeared, the crew were all in a state of disorientation. Some were mentally ill, while other crewmen didn't even return. There were also crewmen that returned embedded in the hull. Later accounts arose about the crewmen, including a former crew member who was involved in a bar fight, and all the participants froze in time, as reported by a local newspaper! There were also accounts of people who were on the ship, spontaneously combusting

Geez... Unless your the author of this web site or the original author of the text

Website

Thx for quoting a source w/o giving credit. In school this is called plagerism.
 

Looney

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Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Q]That basically disproves the theory of conservation of energy/matter. Where'd that energy and matter go?


Umm. You should ask Dr. Einstien as it's his theory.
All I know is very basic information on how this is possible.
You should search the web.[/quote]

Even your basic information is wrong. I suggest you do some serious reading instead of reading a page or two off of the web. You're not getting complete information, but partial and your assumption of them are all wrong. Read the Elegant Universe if you want a good, but introductory reading on the Grand Unification Theory and how close we are to discovering it.
 

Deadtrees

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Alright, i don't know much about physics, but i know that you're definitely wrong here. The unified field theory isn't about combining all 5 energies into one single source, but to combine all the forces into a single theory (strong, weak, electromagnetic, and gravitational forces). And no, it hasn't been mathematically proven yet, they're still working on it.


What I'm saying, and what you're saying sounds the same to me. It's probably my English skill that's not working very well today.
Anyway, what you said here is exactly what I meant to say.
 

Dark4ng3l

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I heard that the reason some of them went mad is that they could "phase out" and when you did this you couldnt move, the others around you could see you but to your perspective they were going slow. Aperently people like this were frozen from the other guys perspective and they could be unfrozen by knocking them out of that astae my bhitting them to move them from that spot, but the frozen person had already been gone for a few hundred years from his perspective and was totally insane.
 

littleprince

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I was looking for some information on this, didnt find anything convincing.

I thought the Unified theory was looking for a way to combine the 5 forces conveniently mathematicaly as they are all very similar. But the constants, equations have not been found yet.
2nd this seems to have as much credibility as that doll on ebay.

If you assume the ship did disappear, and ppl magicaly vanished, and were embedded into the hull, than why people only? The ship would be warped, coffee cups, buoys, equipment would all be embedded. Just sounds like one of those ghost urban legends to me.
 

Looney

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Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Alright, i don't know much about physics, but i know that you're definitely wrong here. The unified field theory isn't about combining all 5 energies into one single source, but to combine all the forces into a single theory (strong, weak, electromagnetic, and gravitational forces). And no, it hasn't been mathematically proven yet, they're still working on it.


What I'm saying, and what you're saying sounds the same to me. It's probably my English skill that's not working very well today.
Anyway, what you said here is exactly what I meant to say.

No, you said 5 energies... there aren't 5... there are 4 forces. And i don't know how the hell you got the idea that just because once we discover the GUT theory, we're going to be able to do stuff like teleportation. And no, it hasn't been mathematically proven yet... that's what they've been working on for decades. And how did you relate the Philadelphia project to GUT?
 
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Originally posted by: Deadtrees
I heard that story, too. I heard that the ship was vanished, and only half of the ship appeared, again.
Nobody knows what happen to the other half.

That ship was later sold to the Greece navy. That's what happened.

Philadelphia Experiment = bogus crap

 

Deadtrees

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What a mistake that I posted this thread although I don't really have much knowledge about this matter.
My bad:eek:


BTW, I'm finding more sources on the web. I'll have some answers ready soon.



 

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Allegedly, in the fall of 1943 a U.S. Navy destroyer was made invisible and teleported from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, to Norfolk, Virginia, in an incident known as the Philadelphia Experiment. Records in the Operational Archives Branch of the Naval Historical Center have been repeatedly searched, but no documents have been located which confirm the event, or any interest by the Navy in attempting such an achievement.

Of course, consider the source.
 

littleprince

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Doing quick searches on the web return nothing credible.

Its great that some website like www.conspiracytheorists.com/jflksajofij!.html or whatever says it happened, but who cares what they say?
 

Deadtrees

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MoralPanic... No, you said 5 energies... there aren't 5... there are 4 forces.



LittlePrince....thought the Unified theory was looking for a way to combine the 5 forces conveniently mathematicaly as they are all very similar. But the constants, equations have not been found yet.

Sorry that I can't translate all those five sources into English. However, I do know that there're five of 'em.
I think LittlePrince has the answer for you.

P.S : What a shame that I even have to QUOTE his words as my answer...

:eek:
 

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People disappearing? Lodged half way in the hull? Some going slow, some going fast? Sounds like a game of GTA: VC. You see those glitches in that game all the time. The conspiracy is deeper than a I thought.