local Union President get's office and salary paid for by taxpayers?

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Lifer
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Polk gives AFSCME office space, pays union leader's salary

I was gone when this story broke so I just got to it now but WTF? How can ANYONE rationalize this? Anyone else know if local unions are literally on the public dole in their area?

I don't see this as anything but the typical Union-politician back slapping and is a disgusting waste of tax-payer's money. Sure it's "only" 60K a year and a small office but when other things are getting cut - should this obvious waste be stopped?
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Genx87
What is wrong? This is the "new" economy we keep hearing about!
This situation started in 1979. Doesn't sound like it's something new to me.

 

JSt0rm

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Genx87
What is wrong? This is the "new" economy we keep hearing about!
This situation started in 1979. Doesn't sound like it's something new to me.

I think current republican mindset is that nothing happened before Obama was elected.
 

Squisher

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Local union officials are always given an office on-site, along with a bulletin board, etc. They are always paid by the employer until you reach the district level.

I don't see what is wrong here. The people he is representing are teachers which are paid by the government.

The office on-site is all for the convenience of the employer.

Usually a contract will delegate how many union workers are necessary for the number of employees and whether they will be allocated just for union work or whether they will be expected to do their normal job until called upon.



 

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Originally posted by: Squisher
Local union officials are always given an office on-site, along with a bulletin board, etc. They are always paid by the employer until you reach the district level.

I don't see what is wrong here. The people he is representing are teachers which are paid by the government.

The office on-site is all for the convenience of the employer.

Usually a contract will delegate how many union workers are necessary for the number of employees and whether they will be allocated just for union work or whether they will be expected to do their normal job until called upon.

They work for the union members and should be paid for with union dues, that is the problem!
 

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Originally posted by: Squisher
Local union officials are always given an office on-site, along with a bulletin board, etc. They are always paid by the employer until you reach the district level.

I don't see what is wrong here. The people he is representing are teachers which are paid by the government.

The office on-site is all for the convenience of the employer.

Usually a contract will delegate how many union workers are necessary for the number of employees and whether they will be allocated just for union work or whether they will be expected to do their normal job until called upon.

Wrong. That is not the case and you'd know that if you actually read the article.
 

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Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Seems like a fair trade for $30+ billion in ethanol subsidies ...

So kickbacks are OK?

Surely this isn't/wasn't a kickback to unions by local dem politicians(who've run Polk County/Des Moines for ages), why that's just a ridiculous notion!
 

Squisher

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Originally posted by: ccbadd
Originally posted by: Squisher
Local union officials are always given an office on-site, along with a bulletin board, etc. They are always paid by the employer until you reach the district level.

I don't see what is wrong here. The people he is representing are teachers which are paid by the government.

The office on-site is all for the convenience of the employer.

Usually a contract will delegate how many union workers are necessary for the number of employees and whether they will be allocated just for union work or whether they will be expected to do their normal job until called upon.

They work for the union members and should be paid for with union dues, that is the problem!

I've worked for two unions, the UAW and the IAM, and all local officials are paid by the company. They get a paycheck from the company just like everybody else. They get sick days and vacation days like everybody else. If they retire and get a pension, it is from the company.

Once you start representing more than one local, which would be the district level, your pay comes from the union. It is the way it is done.

 

DealMonkey

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Leave it to ol' Caddy to get outraged about something that started 29 years go! And crank up the outrage 'cause it's a union-related thing. Yup, big surprise there.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Leave it to ol' Caddy to get outraged about something that started 29 years go! And crank up the outrage 'cause it's a union-related thing. Yup, big surprise there.

It was just reported/found out last wed/thursday. Just because something happened 30 years ago doesn't mean it should be continued today. If the guy is doing work for the Union, he should get paid by the Union - NOT the tax payers. Also, NO union should get FREE rent from the taxpayers. Do you want to defend either of the issues at hand or do you only want to attack me due to my (very justified) position against their thuggery/thievery?
 

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Seems like a fair trade for $30+ billion in ethanol subsidies ...

That has nothing to do with it. This is a county level position. Try keeping up.

That's right.

And in your infinite wisdom you found it necessary to pollute this board with your typical knee-jerk tripe on a 30 year old local issue.

I'm thinking you didn't bother to write a letter to your local newspaper first ...
 

Starbuck1975

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I think current republican mindset is that nothing happened before Obama was elected.

The OP didn't mention Obama.

I am sure crap like this has been going on for decades...I also fully recognize that Republicans are no strangers to lining the pockets of their top tier supporters.

Democrats are the ones in power, so their support base is now under the microscope...and what we are seeing is more of the same.
 

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Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Seems like a fair trade for $30+ billion in ethanol subsidies ...

That has nothing to do with it. This is a county level position. Try keeping up.

That's right.

And in your infinite wisdom you found it necessary to pollute this board with your typical knee-jerk tripe on a 30 year old local issue.

I'm thinking you didn't bother to write a letter to your local newspaper first ...

Did you click the link? It IS my local newspaper you twit.
 

Moonbeam

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Business has spent billions robotizing the American mind to hate unions and now there are millions and millions of these robots running around re-spewing their programming.
 

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Unions have spent billions robotizing the American mind to love unions and now there are millions and millions of these robots running around re-spewing their programming.

Fixed.


Time for the robots to think for themselves instead of letting the "collective" do their bidding for them.