Local PC shop tells me that Arctic Silver is bad for AMD cpu's (???)

[Wingznut]

The guy at a local PC shop stated to me that they don't carry AS because AMD has specifically told them that AS physically damages their processors by "grinding" at the cpu.

I know we have a lot of people here who run or work at small PC shops... Have you ever heard such a thing? Heard it from AMD?

Personally, I've never heard of such a thing. And it certainly wouldn't be the first time a local PC shop has been misinformed.

 

[anthrax]

now thats new....how does it artic silver grind your CPU the heat sink it ontop of it does move......
.....looks like that shop must have a "wonder" thermal compound to sell you...

 

[Utterman]

My guess is that they are wrong. The only thing I heard from AMD about thermal grease is that it can slowly dry up, so you have to replace it once in a while.

 

[amdskip]

I always use artic silver and I would think that their stupid pink thermal pad would be the first thing to damage a chip.

 

[WarCon]

Sounds like some serious misinformation that they were fed. The molecules of silver are way too small to be abrasive and I believe silver to be the softer of the two materials involved.

Only thing I can think is that it is much thinner than a thermal pad that maybe core chipping is more prevalent because the heatsinks metal can touch the core, but not when you install with a pad, since it melts after its installed and is only suppose to be one use. I can only guess. When I searched AMD's site there was no mention of the two words stuck together "Arctic Silver".

 

[Wingznut]

Yeah, I thought it didn't sound right.

The guy said that the vibration from the fan caused it to grind into the die. I'd never heard of such a thing.

Heh.. And no, he just tried to sell me $1.95 silicon grease.

 

[WarCon]

Before I was silly and lapped my core on my 1g T-bird (talk about abrasive..........). I never noticed any of the lettering wearing off of my core. And I have been using Arctic Silver since my Celeron 300A@550 days. I have noticed that the lettering on the core of the AMD's actually leaves a print on the heatsink that is discolored (which tells me they sacrificed that much of the cores heat transfer characteristics for a label) and clearly legible most of the time.

 

[CrazySaint]

I've found that local computer shops aren't exactly bastions of reliability. A guy at a local computer store assured me that the first TBreds would still be manufactured on the 0.18 process instead of 0.13.

 

[Jeff7]

Must laugh...they better not put any fans in their systems either. Air can harm bare transistors, so if too much of it gets in the system, there could be problems.

 

[Mingon]

Sounds like some serious misinformation that they were fed. The molecules of silver are way too small to be abrasive and I believe silver to be the softer of the two materials involved.

A softer material will wear away a harder one. When using a bench grinder you use a softer material for harder metals.

 

[cmdrdredd]

well, this one guy near me doesn't sell AMD stuff. he claims that since AMD desn't make the chipset on the mobos that are used that AMD shouldn't be allowed to sell any CPUs. And he also says that Intel's mbo run on a 400Mhz BUS and he wasn't talking about the QDR ;-) He seriously told me that the CPU is sitting on a pure 400Mhz BUS.

 

[bacillus]

IIRC AMD did put out a notice about a year ago discouraging folk from using thermal grease with their cpus!

 

[WarCon]

Originally posted by: Mingon

Sounds like some serious misinformation that they were fed. The molecules of silver are way too small to be abrasive and I believe silver to be the softer of the two materials involved.

A softer material will wear away a harder one. When using a bench grinder you use a softer material for harder metals.

Yet but there isn't really a parallel to the minute vibrations caused by fan vibration versus massive friction forces generated by a grinding wheel and whatever is holding it. Anyway the molecules of silver used are extremely small (small enough to fill in the microgrooves in polished metal) and it would be absurd to think they could actually wear away that ceramic under even extremely strange conditions.

 

[paralazarguer]

it would be absurd to think they could actually wear away that ceramic under even extremely strange conditions.

Who's talking about ceramic? We're talking about the silicone die.

 

[Fulcrum]

Ask him if Microsoft, or any other company for that matter, should be allowed to sell software. After all, they don't make or give you the computer to run their software on! Using his amazingly smart outlook on things, the answer would be no. You'll probably start that idiot on a tirade.

 

[WarCon]

Originally posted by: 7757524

it would be absurd to think they could actually wear away that ceramic under even extremely strange conditions.

Who's talking about ceramic? We're talking about the silicone die.

I misspoke myself. I meant the silicon (not silicone........).

................edit..................
Is the top of the core the back of the wafer that the die is etched on?

 

[Tbirdkid]

HEHE!!!!! Buy intel....... we dont have these problems!!! HEHEHHE

 

[John]

The guy at a local PC shop

CrapUSA?? Worst Buy?? Mom-n-Pop shop?

It's amazing to hear some of the stories people will tell you at those places.

 

[MrCodeDude]

Make sure you bring a videocamera so we can see streaming footage of you kicking the other guy in his balls
-- mrcodedude

 

[Rectalfier]

He probably had never heard of Artic Silver and was just bullshitting because he didn't have it in stock.

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: John

The guy at a local PC shop

CrapUSA?? Worst Buy?? Mom-n-Pop shop?

It's amazing to hear some of the stories people will tell you at those places.

Mom-n-Pop shop. A pretty good one, actually... Well, if they don't actually speak, that is.