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BurnItDwn

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This. I had about and inch of solid ice at my place in Nashville. I didn't get snow until Wednesday morning. I have no problem driving in snow but I'm not driving on ice.

There is also the whole thing with the land being all tilted like crazy, I realize this is more accurate the farther east you go ... Knoxville would be insanely terrifying even with just a hint of ice since everything is at like at least a 10 degree incline...
 

Capt Caveman

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OP did you actually do anything other than roll out of bed and head to Jack in the Box? How much travel did you do on Monday?

I'm guessing he peaked out to take that pic then went back down to his room in his parent's basement. He posts a lot of FUD.
 

jaha2000

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Apparently OP missed the memo about the 1 to 1 1/2 in sheet of ice covering most roads on Monday that thawed and refroze on Tuesday.

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23 injury crashes and 182 non-injury crashes in a 12 hour time frame on Monday in Nashville alone.

Eh, our secondary roads look like that all winter here. I do find comedy in how helpless they are down there.
 

Fingolfin269

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Eh, our secondary roads look like that all winter here. I do find comedy in how helpless they are down there.

I'm sure if it looked like that all winter here people would be just fine with it. The problem is we see it once every 3 or 4 years for a day or two and all it takes are a few clueless people to screw up the entire transit system.
 

lupi

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Eh, our secondary roads look like that all winter here. I do find comedy in how helpless they are down there.

I've driven in that area. Don't recall a solid layer of ice on the road being considered normal after treatment.
 

stormkroe

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By law, all vehicles in the US have brakes on all 4 wheels.

True, but each of those can and will lock up whenever they independently hit an icy spot, where the interlocked driveline of a 4wd (while in 4wd) will give you perfect antilock breaking, as opposed to the stuttering nonsense of 2wd vehicles, since for one wheel to 'lock' would require the others to stop. Long story short, all engaged wheels (anywhere from 2 to 4) in a 4wd have to turn at the same speed.
Stopping level: Tantric
 

zanemoseley

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I'm between nashville and Knoxville, we had a good bit of ice and some snow. Had downed power lines from fallen trees near our house. I went to work every day with my fwd mazda cx5 with little issue. Most people don't do well since we have so little winter weather so everyone freaks when it comes, not to mention the news channels feed off this shit and make it worse.
 

Red Squirrel

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LOL this is hilarious. I can still see grass FFS! That's no snow. That's just frost. "but you guys are better prepared" There's nothing to be prepared for really. The plows don't even come out for such paltry amount of snow.

Meanwhile in Canada it will be blowing snow and -40 wind chill and I'll go get a coffee. :p
 

PenguinPower

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I'm between nashville and Knoxville, we had a good bit of ice and some snow. Had downed power lines from fallen trees near our house. I went to work every day with my fwd mazda cx5 with little issue. Most people don't do well since we have so little winter weather so everyone freaks when it comes, not to mention the news channels feed off this shit and make it worse.

Sounds like Cookeville or Crossville? You have about 1/12 the poplulation in your whole county; and, if you are on the plataeu, you experienced less ice and more snow.
 

PenguinPower

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LOL this is hilarious. I can still see grass FFS! That's no snow. That's just frost. "but you guys are better prepared" There's nothing to be prepared for really. The plows don't even come out for such paltry amount of snow.

Meanwhile in Canada it will be blowing snow and -40 wind chill and I'll go get a coffee. :p

Again, when he took that picture, there was almost no snow. It was all ice. Today, my kids made snowmen because there was snow; but, I went to work because there was little ice.
 

who?

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The two default drive wheels on a 4wd have a differential that allows them to turn at different speeds. An all wheel drive has a center differential in between the two axles and a differential in each axle so that all wheels can travel at individual speeds.
I have no idea why this is underlining.
 

LikeLinus

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Jul 25, 2001
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Apparently OP missed the memo about the 1 to 1 1/2 in sheet of ice covering most roads on Monday that thawed and refroze on Tuesday.

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23 injury crashes and 182 non-injury crashes in a 12 hour time frame on Monday in Nashville alone.

This, The OP is full of shit. He took that picture AFTER everything had started to melt on Tuesday. All day Monday and Tuesday morning the roads were solid sheets of ice. I know because I drove in it. I'll readily admit most people here cannot drive in ice/snow, but it was very dangerous out there and the OP is an idiot to act like it wasn't true.
 

Red Squirrel

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lol so not only is it a small amount, but it melts right away? Even less reason to be worried.

If we get freezing rain here, we're stuck with that ice till snow covers it up and hardens. Worse is when the ice starts to break and you get washboard roads. Hard on the vehicle. It eventually gets filled in with snow and then packed down but it can take weeks. Very smooth packed down snow can be pretty slippery too. You just need to use common sense when driving, especially if you only have summer tires, but even winter tires will slide fairly easily on ice.
 

PenguinPower

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lol so not only is it a small amount, but it melts right away? Even less reason to be worried.

If we get freezing rain here, we're stuck with that ice till snow covers it up and hardens. Worse is when the ice starts to break and you get washboard roads. Hard on the vehicle. It eventually gets filled in with snow and then packed down but it can take weeks. Very smooth packed down snow can be pretty slippery too. You just need to use common sense when driving, especially if you only have summer tires, but even winter tires will slide fairly easily on ice.

What are you talking about? My neighborhood roads have been sled-central for the past three days because it hasn't melted. As said, it's been an inch-and-a-half thick slab of ice that kids love to bodyslide down on a 3% grade hill.

And, I think has been previously said, a popluation tha is used to this weather once every three years or so reacts much different that one that is used to it for months out of every year. It's not funny. People have died. More people have been hurt.
 

brianmanahan

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And, I think has been previously said, a popluation tha is used to this weather once every three years or so reacts much different that one that is used to it for months out of every year. It's not funny.

sounds like that population needs to learn how to drive :colbert:

i have relatives who moved down to TN, and they make fun of people every time the snow falls.
 

Capt Caveman

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lol so not only is it a small amount, but it melts right away? Even less reason to be worried.

If we get freezing rain here, we're stuck with that ice till snow covers it up and hardens. Worse is when the ice starts to break and you get washboard roads. Hard on the vehicle. It eventually gets filled in with snow and then packed down but it can take weeks. Very smooth packed down snow can be pretty slippery too. You just need to use common sense when driving, especially if you only have summer tires, but even winter tires will slide fairly easily on ice.

Melts right away? Temps are still way below freezing down there. You say a lot of stupid things.

http://www.weather.com/weather/today/l/USTN0357:1:US
 
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LikeLinus

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lol so not only is it a small amount, but it melts right away? Even less reason to be worried.

If we get freezing rain here, we're stuck with that ice till snow covers it up and hardens. Worse is when the ice starts to break and you get washboard roads. Hard on the vehicle. It eventually gets filled in with snow and then packed down but it can take weeks. Very smooth packed down snow can be pretty slippery too. You just need to use common sense when driving, especially if you only have summer tires, but even winter tires will slide fairly easily on ice.

The ice didn't melt everywhere. Tuesday afternoon the sun was out and did melt some of the ice, but it snowed a couple of more inches Tuesday night. Plus backroad were still affected.

Honestly, we get snow ice storms like every few years. Its not surprising for someone not to know how to drive on ice and snow when it happens so rarely.

Also the problem was he had freezing rain/ice storm. It wasn't t just snow that packs down. As you can see from that picture, the roads were just sheets of ice. It was very dangerous. I can vouch for that. Huge difference.
 

Ruptga

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Literal sheets of ice are serious business, but winter storms coming only every couple years is no excuse. Do most drivers die and get replaced every few years? Are they incapable of picking something back up after having learned it a few years back?
 

stormkroe

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I got to drive in this the other morning:
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Having put up with months of this every year for a decade now, I can honestly say it's noobsville to drive compared to the ice sheets of the midwest US (think Kansas City 2002).
 

stormkroe

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The two default drive wheels on a 4wd have a differential that allows them to turn at different speeds. An all wheel drive has a center differential in between the two axles and a differential in each axle so that all wheels can travel at individual speeds.
I have no idea why this is underlining.

Only the wheels sharing a differential can operate at different speeds. If by 'default drive wheels' you mean the least resistant front and least resistant rear, you are incorrect. There will always be at least 2 mechanically interlocked wheels on a 4wd with 4wd engaged.
Example:
Place your 4wd M3 into 4wd.
Jack up the rear until both tire are off the ground.
The rear differential will allow you to freely spin either wheel in any direction.
You cannot, however, spin both wheels at the same time because one of them must match the rpm of one of the front wheels, in this case both locked at 0 rpm.
 

phucheneh

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Apparently OP missed the memo about the 1 to 1 1/2 in sheet of ice covering most roads on Monday that thawed and refroze on Tuesday.

I've been driving all week, since Monday. I have been across town, to every area, I have driven in the morning, I have driven in the middle of the night. Aside from iced over driveways and parking lots, which offer no serious challenge to anyone who's not a complete invalid, I have had no issues. If you can't function in this, you are a joke, and should just give up on life.

Don't call me out just because you're an incompetent moron that clearly shouldn't be legally allowed to operate a motor vehicle in ANY weather. Move to Florida and quit ruining this fucking city with your stupidity.
 

phucheneh

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lol so not only is it a small amount, but it melts right away? Even less reason to be worried.

If we get freezing rain here, we're stuck with that ice till snow covers it up and hardens. Worse is when the ice starts to break and you get washboard roads. Hard on the vehicle. It eventually gets filled in with snow and then packed down but it can take weeks. Very smooth packed down snow can be pretty slippery too. You just need to use common sense when driving, especially if you only have summer tires, but even winter tires will slide fairly easily on ice.

OMGz it's SOUTHERN ICE, it's DIFFERENT. Northern states don't get ice, it's just white fluffy snow that magically never melts and refreezes and cannot be packed down into solid ice. :rolleyes:

The two or three other people that have attempted to post 'corrections' about the conditions in Nashville are fucking morons, plain and simple. Get the fuck out, you inbred retards. Texas says 'welcome;' it's the land of no ice and 24/7 cousin-fucking.
 

halik

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SAVE YO KIDS, SAVE YO WIFE, IT'S SOUTHERN ICE!

Our alley has been pure ice since last week; not whole lot that can be done about that. Blizzaks been getting me back and fro every night, although backing in is a fun treat - have to do it quick enough so the car doesn't slide back into the grooves and puts me back perpendicular to the garage.
 
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PenguinPower

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I've been driving all week, since Monday. I have been across town, to every area, I have driven in the morning, I have driven in the middle of the night. Aside from iced over driveways and parking lots, which offer no serious challenge to anyone who's not a complete invalid, I have had no issues. If you can't function in this, you are a joke, and should just give up on life.

Don't call me out just because you're an incompetent moron that clearly shouldn't be legally allowed to operate a motor vehicle in ANY weather. Move to Florida and quit ruining this fucking city with your stupidity.

Watch out for the impending stroke. I'm glad you are an awesome driver who can handle any situation....who apparently had lots of places to be even though the city was basically shuttered.

It doesn't change the fact that the picture you posted was nowhere near correct on watch the actual situation for the majority of Nashville looked like. The major highways were iced over on Monday and Tuesday. There are lots of rolling hills in middle TN that presented a major challenge.

It also doesn't change the fact that a lot of people, who haven't had the opportunity to gain experience in winter weather driving, wrecked. Some due to no fault of their own, and some because they weren't paying attention. Some people got hurt, and some died.

Stop being a whiny little bitch and grow the fuck up.