Local cops decide to pull over cars that LOOK like they street race.

[notfred]

Newspaper article.

It basically says: "since we suck at catching street racers, we're going to start pulling over cars that look modified, and ticketing them for having equipment on thier car that isn't CA smog legal"

Such a load of crap. If I get pulled over, they're not going to get the hood open without a search warrant. I have a smog legal car that I race on a legal racetrack, I don't need to be harrassed by the police.

Of course, my car doesn't really look modified, but that's not the point.

 

[LuNoTiCK]

Thats crap. Pulling someone over because they LOOK like they street race. Are they going to charge someone for racing?

 

[txgixer]

They have been doing that on NW HWY in Dallas for years now.

I know it is crap but what can you do about it . . .

 

[vi edit]

Ah the benefits of owning a station wagon.

 

[Czar]

racial profiling? I mean brand profiling?

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: Czar
racial profiling? I mean brand profiling?

No, rice-al profiling.

 

[propellerhead]

Originally posted by: vi_edit
Ah the benefits of owning a station wagon.

Bwahahahaha!!!! Or a Soccer Mom Mobile (i.e., mini-van).

 

[PaNsyBoy8]

what kinda crap is this? next thing, they're gonna stop people who look like they drive fast cars

 

[MacBaine]

Good. Considering that many people have died already, I think that this is a great idea, and very clever.

It basically says: "since we suck at catching street racers, we're going to start pulling over cars that look modified, and ticketing them for having equipment on thier car that isn't CA smog legal"

So? They are breaking the law...they know it... they should get what's coming to them. Your car doesn't look modified... so what are you worried about?

I don't need to be harrassed by the police.

Who's getting harassed? People are dying, but we don't want the police to do anything about it. We'd rather sit and complain that they aren't doing anything. Heaven forbid they try to solve a problem, what would we complain about then?

Jesus guys... they are trying to protect you... give them a break.

 

[rahvin]

Originally posted by: notfred
Newspaper article.

It basically says: "since we suck at catching street racers, we're going to start pulling over cars that look modified, and ticketing them for having equipment on thier car that isn't CA smog legal"

Such a load of crap. If I get pulled over, they're not going to get the hood open without a search warrant. I have a smog legal car that I race on a legal racetrack, I don't need to be harrassed by the police.

Of course, my car doesn't really look modified, but that's not the point.

Welcome to the adult world. Police don't need a warrant to search a car, the car is mobile and the time to collect a warrant is excesive (unless you wanna be detained for 3 weeks while they get the warrant). All they need to search is probable cause. Probable cause would be indications that the car is modified. If your car even sounds different than a normal car that would be probable cause.

Whahaaaaa.... Oh sorry, I was whining for you.

 

[WarSong]

this isn't new in SoCAL, they've been doing this for years. Almost everyone I know has been ticketed for things like having an aftermarket exhaust, car too low, etc (including myself). None of us even street race (it's not worth it). I think it's just revenue generation for the police departments and they need to justify their actions to the public by making it sound like they are saving lives by preventing street racing.

 

[Mister T]

no worries.... just ease back on the type R stickers

 

[Michael1897]

that sucks but what are you going to do. then again doesn't have a mod give them probable cause to look? still sucks though, i love my truck

 

[Jzero]

"It's great," Risley said. "We don't actually have to catch people in the act of racing. Trying to catch these guys in the act is difficult at best."

WTF is this all about? Nice, lazy cop, there. I guess it is nice to be able to catch would-be criminals without even thinking about it.

What they don't realize is that in 3 years, there will be no statistical evidence to indicate that this kind of law enforcement has any effect on either street racing incidents OR smog levels.

If you want to better enforce emissions rules, fine.

But I think if you're going to be issuing someone a citation requiring them to take their personal time and expense for a smog test, you better have to be 100% sure that they have a modification that will cause them to fail, or there should be consequences.

 

[Skawttey]

This is what is great about driving a 1968 Mustang, most of the new regulations do not apply.

 

[ElFenix]

don't you have to be tested to prove that you're violating the emissions laws? of course... if you have your cats cut out and they can hear it they're going to know.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: MacBaine
Good. Considering that many people have died already, I think that this is a great idea, and very clever.

It basically says: "since we suck at catching street racers, we're going to start pulling over cars that look modified, and ticketing them for having equipment on thier car that isn't CA smog legal"

So? They are breaking the law...they know it... they should get what's coming to them. Your car doesn't look modified... so what are you worried about?

I don't need to be harrassed by the police.

Who's getting harassed? People are dying, but we don't want the police to do anything about it. We'd rather sit and complain that they aren't doing anything. Heaven forbid they try to solve a problem, what would we complain about then?

Jesus guys... they are trying to protect you... give them a break.

I guess the Fourth Amendment means nothing to you?

The most infamous quote of someone with no respect for individual liberties: "What have you got to worry about if you've nothing to hide?"

 

[MacBaine]

WTF is this all about? Nice, lazy cop, there. I guess it is nice to be able to catch would-be criminals without even thinking about it.

So you would rather they spend all their time and resources trying to catch street racers in the act? Oh yeah, that's right, cops don't do anything. They drive around and give out tickets....nothing else. I guess next time somebody is trying to kill you, you could call a plumber.

 

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: AmusedOne

Originally posted by: MacBaine
Good. Considering that many people have died already, I think that this is a great idea, and very clever.

It basically says: "since we suck at catching street racers, we're going to start pulling over cars that look modified, and ticketing them for having equipment on thier car that isn't CA smog legal"

So? They are breaking the law...they know it... they should get what's coming to them. Your car doesn't look modified... so what are you worried about?

I don't need to be harrassed by the police.

Who's getting harassed? People are dying, but we don't want the police to do anything about it. We'd rather sit and complain that they aren't doing anything. Heaven forbid they try to solve a problem, what would we complain about then?

Jesus guys... they are trying to protect you... give them a break.

I guess the Fourth Amendment means nothing to you?

The most infamous quote of someone with no respect for individual liberties: "What have you got to worry about if you've nothing to hide?"

Like rahvin said... they don't need a warrant. It isn't unreasonable search at all. There is a legitimate concern, the head on approach doesn't work, so they are being creative to solve the problem. Tell you what, why don't you sit in a car for 8 hours at night, in one place, and try to catch a street racer. Then they wouldn't have to do this!

 

[PowerMac4Ever]

Originally posted by: AmusedOne

Originally posted by: MacBaine
Good. Considering that many people have died already, I think that this is a great idea, and very clever.

It basically says: "since we suck at catching street racers, we're going to start pulling over cars that look modified, and ticketing them for having equipment on thier car that isn't CA smog legal"

So? They are breaking the law...they know it... they should get what's coming to them. Your car doesn't look modified... so what are you worried about?

I don't need to be harrassed by the police.

Who's getting harassed? People are dying, but we don't want the police to do anything about it. We'd rather sit and complain that they aren't doing anything. Heaven forbid they try to solve a problem, what would we complain about then?

Jesus guys... they are trying to protect you... give them a break.

I guess the Fourth Amendment means nothing to you?

The most infamous quote of someone with no respect for individual liberties: "What have you got to worry about if you've nothing to hide?"

Your holier-than-thou attitude can suck it, constitution boy!

Smog sucks. Modifying your cars to be smog-illegal is an extremely lame and cheap way of making your car go faster. To hell with the people that make their cars smog-illegal. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Such a load of crap. If I get pulled over, they're not going to get the hood open without a search warrant. I have a smog legal car that I race on a legal racetrack, I don't need to be harrassed by the police.

Of course, my car doesn't really look modified, but that's not the point.

Sorry but you are out of luck. No warrant is needed to search a vehicle as long as the police officer has a reasonable suspicion that there is evidence of a crime inside. In this instance, if he had a good-faith belief that your car was illegal in some respect (because, for example, it sounded too loud), there would be nothing illegal about forcing you to allow him to look under the hood. The Supreme Court's longstanding rationale for this is that roadways and motor vehicles are a highly-regulated area and so you have a lesser expectation of privacy in your vehicle than you do in your home.

 

[iamwiz82]

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: AmusedOne

Originally posted by: MacBaine
Good. Considering that many people have died already, I think that this is a great idea, and very clever.

It basically says: "since we suck at catching street racers, we're going to start pulling over cars that look modified, and ticketing them for having equipment on thier car that isn't CA smog legal"

So? They are breaking the law...they know it... they should get what's coming to them. Your car doesn't look modified... so what are you worried about?

I don't need to be harrassed by the police.

Who's getting harassed? People are dying, but we don't want the police to do anything about it. We'd rather sit and complain that they aren't doing anything. Heaven forbid they try to solve a problem, what would we complain about then?

Jesus guys... they are trying to protect you... give them a break.

I guess the Fourth Amendment means nothing to you?

The most infamous quote of someone with no respect for individual liberties: "What have you got to worry about if you've nothing to hide?"

Your holier-than-thou attitude can suck it, constitution boy!

Smog sucks. Modifying your cars to be smog-illegal is an extremely lame and cheap way of making your car go faster. To hell with the people that make their cars smog-illegal. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

That wasnt the point of this thread. The point is that they will be pulling over cars that LOOK like they could be smog illegal. By that definition, they could pull over a car with clear brake lights because "he may have a aftermarket illegal cat. converter." Do you see the problem with this?

 

[PowerMac4Ever]

Originally posted by: Jzero

"It's great," Risley said. "We don't actually have to catch people in the act of racing. Trying to catch these guys in the act is difficult at best."

WTF is this all about? Nice, lazy cop, there. I guess it is nice to be able to catch would-be criminals without even thinking about it.

What they don't realize is that in 3 years, there will be no statistical evidence to indicate that this kind of law enforcement has any effect on either street racing incidents OR smog levels.

If you want to better enforce emissions rules, fine.

But I think if you're going to be issuing someone a citation requiring them to take their personal time and expense for a smog test, you better have to be 100% sure that they have a modification that will cause them to fail, or there should be consequences.

Maybe YOU don't realize that in three years, there will be MUCH statistical evidence indicating that this kind of law enforcement will have an effect on street racing and smog levels.

 

[PowerMac4Ever]

Originally posted by: Jzero

"It's great," Risley said. "We don't actually have to catch people in the act of racing. Trying to catch these guys in the act is difficult at best."

WTF is this all about? Nice, lazy cop, there. I guess it is nice to be able to catch would-be criminals without even thinking about it.

What they don't realize is that in 3 years, there will be no statistical evidence to indicate that this kind of law enforcement has any effect on either street racing incidents OR smog levels.

If you want to better enforce emissions rules, fine.

But I think if you're going to be issuing someone a citation requiring them to take their personal time and expense for a smog test, you better have to be 100% sure that they have a modification that will cause them to fail, or there should be consequences.

Maybe YOU don't realize that in three years, there will be MUCH statistical evidence indicating that this kind of law enforcement will have an effect on street racing and smog levels.

 

[PowerMac4Ever]

I highly doubt cops are pulling people over altezzas. I'll bet you it's the big exhaust tips and wings.