LMFAO.. Satanists makes formal request to open meeting with prayer to his god

[PokerGuy]

Hold on, how can someone say "I really don't believe in Satan because he's make-believe", and the courts recognize that as a religion?

Are we in pre-school? Are the justices this incompetent, or is it just you?

It's just him. Like the ruling or not, it is what it is, and this idiot's attempt at being 'clever' is going nowhere. He's just another troll.

 

[moonbogg]

At first it seems silly, but its not. If you allow prayer, then you allow prayer. I say give the man his prayer.

 

[nehalem256]

At first it seems silly, but its not. If you allow prayer, then you allow prayer. I say give the man his prayer.

The issue is if you read the article you will see that the man openly admits he is trolling not praying.

Maybe liberals have difficulty determining the difference between the 2?

 

[senseamp]

Hold on, how can someone say "I really don't believe in Satan because he's make-believe", and the courts recognize that as a religion?

Are we in pre-school? Are the justices this incompetent, or is it just you?

The justices. But it's the usual political 5:4, so it won't be around for long.
You can acknowledge something is make-belief, but still follow religious rituals and prayers because that's what you want to do. Lots of non-religious people follow religious rituals, for example in cases of weddings and burials, because it's their right to do so. It's not for the state to question a person's religious motives. If the state discriminates when picking speakers at government events, it can be sued.

 

[senseamp]

The issue is if you read the article you will see that the man openly admits he is trolling not praying.

Maybe liberals have difficulty determining the difference between the 2?

Trolling and praying are not mutually exclusive. He's trolling by praying. And it's his right to do so under the First Amendment.

 

[thraashman]

The issue is if you read the article you will see that the man openly admits he is trolling not praying.

Maybe liberals have difficulty determining the difference between the 2?

I'd say with you having been here since April of 2012 that the liberals of P&N have at least a solid 25 months and 13300+ posts of examples of what trolling is.

 

[BoberFett]

Trolling and praying are not mutually exclusive. He's trolling by praying. And it's his right to do so under the First Amendment.

So then nehalem SHOULD be allowed to marry his toaster, even if he is just trolling.

Or do you hate the freedom to marry?

 

[nehalem256]

I'd say with you having been here since April of 2012 that the liberals of P&N have at least a solid 25 months and 13300+ posts of examples of what trolling is.

Maybe liberals have difficulty determining the difference between the 2?

Perhaps I need to upgrade my maybe?:sneaky:

Hint, making liberals feel uncomfortable isn't trolling.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

You do realize that religions other than Christianity have had the prayers of their religions open the meetings, right?

Or is it just more convenient for you to fiction up "Christian butthurt" where it is nowhere to be found anywhere in the thread, the article, or the other thread about this (where it was largely anticipated that something like this would happen because it, indeed, is funny).

Let me guess... Atheist? Me too, but how about not being a dumbass while you're at it so your stupidity doesn't have a residual effect on me.

So he is an Atheist.

So if he is praying does that mean atheism is now a religion?:sneaky:

no, the only thing that atheists are guaranteed to have in common with each other is a lack in a belief of god(s), being an atheist says nothing about what the person believes about the power of prayer

 

[Retro Rob]

The justices. But it's the usual political 5:4, so it won't be around for long.
You can acknowledge something is make-belief, but still follow religious rituals and prayers because that's what you want to do. Lots of non-religious people follow religious rituals, for example in cases of weddings and burials, because it's their right to do so. It's not for the state to question a person's religious motives. If the state discriminates when picking speakers at government events, it can be sued.

In this case, they didn't have to, Einstein, because he made it very clear he doesn't even believe Satan exists.

If atheism has been relegated to this kind of stupidity, then I feel sorry for your children.

 

[senseamp]

So then nehalem SHOULD be allowed to marry his toaster, even if he is just trolling.

Or do you hate the freedom to marry?

That analogy makes no sense.

 

[DrPizza]

If his belief was genuine, I'd give him the platform for a prayer to his god. But this is clearly not the case, his belief isn't genuine...so I wouldn't feed this whackjob troll.

Pretty sure that legally there is a difference between practicing religion and trolling.



And since he flat out admits that he is trolling he would have no case.

I beg to differ. I think it's fairly safe to say that the majority of religious people don't 100% believe every part of their religion. I don't think that when celebrating communion, that the majority of Catholics actually believe that the little wafer turns into part of the body of Christ, and that the wine actually turns into his blood. They believe it's symbolic. BUT, the actual view of that religion is that it really does turn into those two things via transubstantiation.

 

[thraashman]

So then nehalem SHOULD be allowed to marry his toaster, even if he is just trolling.

Or do you hate the freedom to marry?

I don't believe nehalem is trolling, I believe he truly wants to marry his toaster and I'm guessing he has spent MANY a cold night "heating things up" with his toaster. On a related note I'm guessing that burns on your penis are extremely unpleasant.

 

[senseamp]

In this case, they didn't have to, Einstein, because he made it very clear he doesn't even believe Satan exists.

If atheism has been relegated to this kind of stupidity, then I feel sorry for your children.

Why does he have to believe that Satan exists to say a prayer to Satan? Is the state now going to play inquisition and question people's beliefs or lack thereof?

 

[Retro Rob]

Why does he have to believe that Satan exists to say a prayer to Satan? Is the state now going to play inquisition and question people's beliefs or lack thereof?

I didn't say he needs to believe Satan exists to pray to Satan.

 

[nehalem256]

I beg to differ. I think it's fairly safe to say that the majority of religious people don't 100% believe every part of their religion. I don't think that when celebrating communion, that the majority of Catholics actually believe that the little wafer turns into part of the body of Christ, and that the wine actually turns into his blood. They believe it's symbolic. BUT, the actual view of that religion is that it really does turn into those two things via transubstantiation.

I think there is a pretty big gap between not believing 100% every part of your religion. And saying that the primary deity of your supposed religion is imaginary.

Its basically the same thing as being a Democrat or Republican and not believing 100% of the party platform.

 

[nehalem256]

I'd say with you having been here since April of 2012 that the liberals of P&N have at least a solid 25 months and 13300+ posts of examples of what trolling is.

I don't believe nehalem is trolling, I believe he truly wants to marry his toaster and I'm guessing he has spent MANY a cold night "heating things up" with his toaster. On a related note I'm guessing that burns on your penis are extremely unpleasant.

The contradiction should be obvious.D:

 

[mrjminer]

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The only thing that is butt-hurting is that you used a shitty meme. You could have at least used a hamster humping a mouse or something.

Anyways... another interesting conception. Wouldn't his admittance that Satan was fictitious merely serve to prove that he is, in fact, a Satanist?!? Isn't there something about "the devil's greatest trick is making the world think he doesn't exist?" Hm.. I ponder if this admitted troll would actually have a case if they deny his request, now.

 

[nehalem256]

Why does he have to believe that Satan exists to say a prayer to Satan? Is the state now going to play inquisition and question people's beliefs or lack thereof?

That's exactly what the courts did to the man who wanted to marry his porn filled apple computer:

"Chris Sevier has moved to intervene, apparently asserting he wishes to marry his computer," Judge Robert Hinkle wrote in an April 24 ruling. "Perhaps the motion is satirical. Or perhaps it is only removed from reality. Either way, the motion has no place in this lawsuit."

http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/pulp/2014/05/florida_man_wants_to_marry_my.php

So as I said before. Liberals can have their satanic prayer when Chris Sevier gets to legally marry his macbook.

 

[Retro Rob]

It's just him. Like the ruling or not, it is what it is, and this idiot's attempt at being 'clever' is going nowhere. He's just another troll.

Yep, exactly.

Actually, the ones who are actually butt-hurt are the ones making parody religions because they're mad with the ruling.

Nice way for them to spin it back onto the religious, though.

 

[Orignal Earl]

So then nehalem SHOULD be allowed to marry his toaster, even if he is just trolling.

Or do you hate the freedom to marry?

Meh
He would get so excited the wedding night and leave it plugged in while he consummated the marriage
Darwinism

 

[senseamp]

That's exactly what the courts did to the man who wanted to marry his porn filled apple computer:

http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/pulp/2014/05/florida_man_wants_to_marry_my.php

So as I said before. Liberals can have their satanic prayer when Chris Sevier gets to legally marry his macbook.

Nope, Satanism is a religion, just like Christianity.

MacBook is not a person, so it cannot enter into a marriage contract, like two gay men can. Any other false analogies?

 

[senseamp]

Yep, exactly.

Actually, the ones who are actually butt-hurt are the ones making parody religions because they're mad with the ruling.

Nice way for them to spin it back onto the religious, though.

Satanism is not a parody religion though. It's a religion just like Christianity. And in any case, it's not for the government to decide which religions are and aren't parodies.

 

[Retro Rob]

Satanism is not a parody religion though. It's a religion just like Christianity. And in any case, it's not for the government to decide which religions are and aren't parodies.

Where did I say the Government decides what makes a religion a parody one?

 

[Cozarkian]

There are really two arguments to explore here:

1. If an actual Satanist made the same request, should that Satanist be allowed to give a prayer?

2. Can/should this particular request be denied on grounds that the applicant is not a sincere Satanist?

Many posts seems focused on the second question, where in my opinion, the first question is the much more interesting and important.