LMAO @ incompetant snow driving

[Red Squirrel]

I ran across this on youtube, I loled

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6AVMxZQKEY&feature=geo

How in the world do you get a hummer stuck? LOL

Guess we really don't have to worry about the US invading Canada.:biggrin: At least not the north part of it anyway.

 

[guyver01]

Unless it's an H-1 (original Hummer) .. the H2 and H3 suck as "suv"'s go

 

[nick1985]

Unless it's an H-1 (original Hummer)

it is

 

[zerocool84]

The driver of the H-1 is black. You think he ever gets to see some snow let alone drive in it?

 

[guyver01]

it is

wow.. serious?

who owns an H1 and doesn't know how to drive it?

I mean.. the H1 is so badass.. it doesn't even need a road.

 

[BassBomb]

The driver of the H-1 is black. You think he ever gets to see some snow let alone drive in it?

what about the black people in canada?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

If you undercarriage is dragging on the snow, then you are going to be stuck. The problem with the first vehicle isn't bad driving, but that he was driving at all.

 

[wiretap]

The guy in the Jeep had shitty tires.. and it appears it doesn't have a 4WD/AWD mode with locking diffs or symmetrical all wheel drive.

The guy in the military hummer looked to just be in 2WD.

But, it didn't help that the snow was wet and hard packed. That is hard to drive in and almost anyone can get stuck. High centering your vehicle doesn't let you go anywhere.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

what about the black people in canada?

They drive the tank.

 

[zerocool84]

what about the black people in canada?

There's no black people in Canada.

 

[Red Squirrel]

If you undercarriage is dragging on the snow, then you are going to be stuck. The problem with the first vehicle isn't bad driving, but that he was driving at all.

yeah the first one I can sympathise with. The trick with driving in snow like that is never make sudden stops but if it was at a light or stop sign then not much choice, but the worse thing you can do is hit the gas. Just let go the brake and let the car do the work, and if you really have to, slightly push the gas. I can usually get through snow like that with summer tires if I'm careful. Once you start to spin, you're screwed and start digging a grave, as they say. :biggrin:

Unless it's in the morning and it's a work day, I usually avoid the roads when they get that way.

 

[Red Squirrel]

There's no black people in Canada.

Actually there is but they're super rare, and with the snowy background, they can be seen from 10 miles away.

 

[zerocool84]

Actually there is but they're super rare, and with the snowy background, they can be seen from 10 miles away.

This gave me a good lol.

 

[LTC8K6]

The Jeep was high centered on the snow, which will stop every vehicle, and the H1 was only stuck until the fronts were put into action.

 

[Cattlegod]

doesn't look like he got stuck to me. he drove off unaided.

 

[Jumpem]

If you undercarriage is dragging on the snow, then you are going to be stuck. The problem with the first vehicle isn't bad driving, but that he was driving at all.

This. Once you get high centered on the snow you're done.

 

[StageLeft]

Anything can get stuck if the undercarriage is jammed, as mentioned above. I spent 45 minutes releasing a neighbor's 4X4 jeep from their driveway last year. They tried to clear their driveway without removing the snow first and couldn't. This is why military vehicles have tracks.

 

[irishScott]

Second Hummer is 2wd. Probably wouldn't have made it far anyway, but fail.

 

[mizzou]

Second Hummer is 2wd. Probably wouldn't have made it far anyway, but fail.

you can see towards the end that the driver kicked it into 4wd mode and easily got out . I do this in my truck sometimes, that way I'm not driving in 4-hi the entire time when it's really not needed.

I've heard mixed things about hummers, I don't think it's that awesome of an off-road machine. It can climb a vertical wall though which is a neat trick lol

 

[marvdmartian]

Plus, military Hummers are driven by insane 18-20 year olds, who would never let something as trivial as snow slow them down!

Of course, the military does require them to take a class in how to drive that vehicle, before they get licensed.

You seriously want to see funny driving in the snow? I live in north central Texas, and we got 8" on Christmas eve. Watching all the rednecks with their 2WD trucks was sort of fun!

 

[geno]

The guy in the Jeep had shitty tires.. and it appears it doesn't have a 4WD/AWD mode with locking diffs

Why would an apparently stock GC have a locker? That's somewhat of a no-brainer.

symmetrical all wheel drive.

As opposed to what, asymmetrical all wheel drive? :biggrin: The term "Symmetrical AWD" was somewhat coined by Subaru to point out the fact there is symmetry in the layout of the components of its AWD system, it doesn't have any bearing on traction capabilities.

 

[wiretap]

Why would an apparently stock GC have a locker? That's somewhat of a no-brainer.

As opposed to what, asymmetrical all wheel drive? :biggrin:

I don't know what type system the Jeeps come with now, but it appears to be pretty shitty. I was referring to the designs of Subaru's AWD systems.. 'symmetrical' is their design, and IMO one of the best. LSD's, user controllable diffs, full time awd, etc. The Jeep seems to move all (or most) wheels only when it detects slippage, and it looks slow/laggy to react.

 

[Bignate603]

Why would an apparently stock GC have a locker? That's somewhat of a no-brainer.

I'm pretty sure you can option the GC with a locker or limited slip from the factory.

I don't know what type system the Jeeps come with now, but it appears to be pretty shitty. I was referring to the designs of Subaru's AWD systems.. 'symmetrical' is their design, and IMO one of the best. LSD's, user controllable diffs, full time awd, etc. The Jeep seems to move all (or most) wheels only when it detects slippage, and it looks slow/laggy to react.

When you have no traction there's nothing can you do. The way that the wheels were acting on the grand cherokee it looks like it was hunting for traction. That jeep either came with a full time 4wd system or a part time one. Either way for the wheels to be constantly changing speeds like that independent of each other it means that it's fighting to find any traction at all between all 4 wheels but isn't finding enough to get any forward motion. Between trying to plow through the snow and tires that weren't meant for snow he's just not going to make any progress. I doubt a subaru with lower ground clearance and similar tires would be able to do any better, the front bumper would be a snow plow.

As for the Hummer, what you might be seeing is the Torsen differentials showing their worst characteristics. The military humvee doesn't have true locking differentials, it uses torsen ones that act as a limited slip. However, if one of the wheels on the axle gets almost no traction the torsen dumps all available torque to the slipping wheel (this is typically seen if you lift one wheel into the air. The trick to keep torque going to the wheel with traction is to use the parking brake to apply some drag to the wheels. This will force the differential to stop sending all the torque to the wheel that's slipping.

It's a pretty well known issue with the military hummer.

Also, the guy was a moron for trying to stop in what looks like a snow bank. With a little momentum he would have blown through it without even slowing down.

 

[Demo24]

I don't know what type system the Jeeps come with now, but it appears to be pretty shitty. I was referring to the designs of Subaru's AWD systems.. 'symmetrical' is their design, and IMO one of the best. LSD's, user controllable diffs, full time awd, etc. The Jeep seems to move all (or most) wheels only when it detects slippage, and it looks slow/laggy to react.

User controlled diffs? Lol wut? The only Subaru in recent history somewhat capable of that was the STI, and that allowed you to lock the diff, and redirect some power to the rear. All other manuals have open front diffs, a viscous center, and sometimes a rear LSD. Auto's are all kind of different, and move the power around all the time.

I'm not arguing that it's a bad design, it's very good and it works great. I've used it in snow/ice a few times and it's never left me stuck, but I doubt it would have mattered in stuff like that. My car is far too low with tires that aren't made for the stuff.

 

[geno]

LSD's, user controllable diffs, full time awd, etc. The Jeep seems to move all (or most) wheels only when it detects slippage, and it looks slow/laggy to react.

Other than "full time awd", the rest of the stuff is only really found on the STi. Their meat and potatoes is full time awd with no special gimmicks, really. Open diffs, no bias control, etc. Your average Outback would react similarly to the Jeep in the OP.

I'm pretty sure you can option the GC with a locker or limited slip from the factory.

There's a BIG difference between the two when it comes to getting traction like the kind you need in the OP's video. I've never heard of a newer GC coming with a locker, but an LSD is much more likely.